I installed vlc but the gui is problematic there. no click to pause/play and no drag option makes vlc a no go for me but audio music/video sounds SO much better then on mpc-hc. its like theres distortion with mpc. I love mpc. its lightweight and familiar and gui is lovely
maybe its a setting/codec thats set in mpc?
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VLC rely on own audio path - all processing is performed internally (as such you can activate for example HRTF for multichannel headphone listening) - MPC-xx is different - fully rely on OS audio processing as such it is affected by all problems - distortion may be related to not activated sound normalization - combining many channels into stereo may create this kind of effect.
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@ rocketman122,
Are you using the LAV filters with MPC-HC ?
The image is for setting the external filters to use LAV.
Also uncheck all the Internal filters (unless you fine one you need).
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For myself I prefer Winamp with the DFX Audio Enhancement for Winamp.
For music & some videos.
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HOLY COW!!! good ole winamp! I forgot about this gem! big hug thanks so much
in the print screen you show, mine has ffdshow only in the list to the right. NOTHING else. and I remember removing ffdshow audio processor
ok no good, same issue with winamp as vlc. no click to pause/play no drag to move. its small so I can understand but no good. maybe I can add some audio codec into mpc? Im very problematic.
also no pressing space bar to pause playLast edited by rocketman122; 13th Oct 2024 at 12:06.
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@ rocketman122,
I'm using Winamp version 5.63 .
You need to put it on the "video" tab
You may need to select the "MediaLibrary" when you open Winamp & then the "video" tab.
You will need to do this after using the slider also to Pause/Play with the spacebar.
For the spacebar to Play/Pause.
Mouse click does not pause Winamp
The Slider to drag to move is in the upper left corner.
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For MPC-HC you need to install LAV filters:
https://www.videohelp.com/software/LAV-Filters
Then copy & paste them into the MPC-HC LAV Filters folder in Program Files.
This is a YouTube for setting up the LAV Filters in MPC-HC:
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I recommend foobar2000.
But I don't know if it fits YOUR definition of "super lightweight""Programmers are human-shaped machines that transform alcohol into bugs." -
Have you tried enabling the MPC-HC audio renderer (under Internal Filters/Audio Renderer).
I'd also recommend foobar2000. It's not exactly lightweight in respect to features, but it's fast and a very good player.
If you add the ffdshow audio processor as an internal filter for MPC-HC, you can use ffdshow's Winamp filter to run Winamp plugins.
Here's an old post showing how to do it. When you've added ffdshow as an external filter, you can double click on it to open the ffdshow configuration.
If a plugin only supports stereo audio, you can re-order the ffdshow filters and downmix before the Winamp filter.
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/379012-Voice-Clarity-in-Movies-Best-solution#post2448789Avisynth functions Resize8 Mod - Audio Speed/Meter/Wave - FixBlend.zip - Position.zip
Avisynth/VapourSynth functions CropResize - FrostyBorders - CPreview (Cropping Preview) -
I feel that XMPlay is a solid lightweight music player. It uses the Bass audio library for music codecs. The music player allows winamp dsp and many other functions/features. Foobar2000 is a solid player as well but XMPlay is more lightweight overall.
I think FFDShow audio processor allows winamp dsp through 32bit version of DirectShow players like MPC-HC. I believe one of the developers of FFDShow started working on LAV Filters a while back. They took up the MPC-HC project and kept updating it until this very day. The newest version of MPC-HC comes with LAV Filters built-in to the player.
I believe the distortion probably has to do with the normalization/compressor feature in MPC-HC that may be turned on automatically for you. The other issue could be that you may need to tinker with the Stereo Downmix settings in the audio portion of LAV Filter. LAV Filters have a built in clipping prevention feature if you tick the box when downmixing to stereo.
As for Winamp, there is a person named dr0 who supposedly worked on it previously and decided to start his own project called WACUP to modify and improve the old winamp to work better for modern OS/computers. -
OK. so time to deal with the issue, I removed old mpc, removed settings, updated to a newer version. watched a video to add external filters. added lav audio. I was missing others it showed but so far my new KEF sound lovely!
vlc is out winamp is out. the ui on mpc is unrivaled. its small light and has all I need. UI makes or breaks things. and winamp was kick A back in the xp days of crt but damn my eyesight has gotten worse over the years and it looks smaller then ever hahahaha -
@ rocketman122,
This is what my MPC-HC has
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The left red square is what the Program folder/MPC-HC/LAVFilters has in it.
The center red square is the MPC-HC/Options/Externel Filters/Add Filter/Select Filter has.
The right red square his from the same pop up as in post#4 for easier comparison.
The 3 not in the red square are extras I added for playing MIDI format & some subtitles
It seems you don't need more than the audio to play the files you want to play.
So if you ever run into a problem file you may want to add the others.
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I have my LAV filters set to "Enable System Tray Icon".
This only shows when a player that has the LAV filters in playing a file.
The icon can be double clicked to make settings in that filter.
[Attachment 82846 - Click to enlarge]Last edited by cholla; 15th Oct 2024 at 12:38.
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@cholla
thanks so much. ill add the ones you listed there. very much appreciated!!
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