HDCP strippers

[Brad]

The Farscape was upscaled from PAL but slowed back down to 23.976 (even overseas, apparently). Something's wrong with your player or capture settings. Every 25th frame is a dupe.

Hollywood doesn't care about your video.

Not yet. But I'll show them. I'll show them all!

[vhelp]

actually, i think that sample (on previous page) was 25 fps. if you open in avisynth script and scrub through it, you will see a duplicate every 24th and 25th frames, repeatedly. something like that. maybe something screwy on my end, i don't know. i captured another video, 30,000 leagues under the sea with the same equipment and setup mentioned in post #480, and mediainfo says the same thing, 25 fps.

seems you are correct, something screwy. my roxio will not let me set it to NTSC. it keeps reverting back to PAL for some domb reason.

here is another short sample for anyone that wants to review it.

[jagabo]

Yes, somewhere along the line something is converting 24 fps to 25 fps by duplicating frames.

[larryw]

Just a note for owners of the original Hauppauge HD-PVR:

I recall on another thread jagabo saying that you don't need an HDCP stripper to capture HDCP protected content with the *original* Hauppauge HD-PVR (component inputs), as it does not honor HDCP. I can confirm that. I can capture from a Roku2 (HDMI output) just fine.

You do need an HDMI to component converter, but be careful which one you get. This one works:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7GD44A/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This one will *NOT* work, so steer clear:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008HZT8SA/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Yes, I bought and tested both of the above. Sent the latter one back today.

I did get a CVID splitter/stripper though. I plan on finally getting a new receiver with HDMI, and I'll need to split the Roku output. And who knows, my HD-PVR may die and I'd probably get an HD-PVR2. Anyway, I got the 1x4 big brother to the 1x2 unit, which has been out of stock for the better part of a month. This one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089DVCT8/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is exactly my experience. My HD-PVR died and I had been capturing HD from Dish and then then DirecTV for years. So,when I got the HD-PVR2 I was disappointed. I had not idea that the original ignored the HDCP crap.

I did become extremely happy when I got the ViewHD splitter and am capturing 1080p it all its glory. And the hardware and software suite of the PVR2 works much better than the original as well.

[vhelp]

regarding the PAL vs NTSC capture issue, i will open up a separate topic.

[Capture]

I'm looking to capture video (and audio) from my Sky HD box in the best possible quality audio & video.

I have an HDCP stripper which appears to be working fine.

I have this capture card: http://www.amazon.co.uk/HD-Capture-CaptureX-Skydigital-Recorder/dp/B004CCQVHS/ref=sr_1...rds=B004CCQVHS

When I capture, I have two issues:
1) When using Adobe Premier Elements 9, the image in the preview screen is distorted. However, the captured image is fairly good, but there are 'jagged' edges on some of the picture.
2) When using the software that is provided with the card, I have similar 'jagged' edges on some of the video.

Can anyone assist me? I don't mind purchasing a better capture card if necessary.

[manono]

Can anyone assist me?

If you've been reading through the thread you'll notice samples are often provided. I suggest you do the same. 10 seconds of a scene with steady movement will be plenty.

You say there's a problem in the Preview screen. Have you rendered out any video? If so, do you see the same problem in the output?

[Capture]

Can anyone assist me?

If you've been reading through the thread you'll notice samples are often provided. I suggest you do the same. 10 seconds of a scene with steady movement will be plenty.

You say there's a problem in the Preview screen. Have you rendered out any video? If so, do you see the same problem in the output?

I will try and figure out where and how to post some samples.
To answer your questions:
- The preview screen is distorted. The .avi file saved by Premier is not distorted in the same way, its mostly fine, but I think frames are dropping and that's the problem. Also, there is no sound.
- When using the software that comes with the card, there is preview sound, but no sound recorded to the .avi file. Also, there are many more dropped frames that on premier.

Is there any other software I can try, I think it may be a software issue.

I am using a dedicated hard drive to record. The system drive is an SSD.

[manono]

...but I think frames are dropping and that's the problem.

You think? You don't know? Have you compared the initial framerate and frame count with the output framerate and frame count. Anyway, a sample might help to figure this out.

[Chippy_boy]

I'm looking to capture video (and audio) from my Sky HD box in the best possible quality audio & video.

I have an HDCP stripper which appears to be working fine.

Please can you let me know which one? (PM is necessary.)

I have tried this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330935149418

And can confirm it does NOT work with the Sky HD 1TB box. I get an error "This television does not support HDCP, please contact Sky on telephone xxxxxxxx" or similar message.

[NickR]

I'm looking to capture video (and audio) from my Sky HD box in the best possible quality audio & video.

I have an HDCP stripper which appears to be working fine.

Please can you let me know which one? (PM is necessary.)

I have tried this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330935149418

And can confirm it does NOT work with the Sky HD 1TB box. I get an error "This television does not support HDCP, please contact Sky on telephone xxxxxxxx" or similar message.

Thats strange, I have this box and I dont get that error on my TV, I have the older smaller capacity SKY+ HD box DRX780, do you get any errors on the capture device?

[Chippy_boy]

I'm looking to capture video (and audio) from my Sky HD box in the best possible quality audio & video.

I have an HDCP stripper which appears to be working fine.

Please can you let me know which one? (PM is necessary.)

I have tried this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330935149418

And can confirm it does NOT work with the Sky HD 1TB box. I get an error "This television does not support HDCP, please contact Sky on telephone xxxxxxxx" or similar message.

Thats strange, I have this box and I dont get that error on my TV, I have the older smaller capacity SKY+ HD box DRX780, do you get any errors on the capture device?

Yes, I was very surprised. I bought that box fully expecting it to work.

To be honest I didn't even try the capture box (AVermedia Live Gamer Portable) because the Sky box would not output a picture even to the television with no capture box attached.

Did you have to plug things in in any particular sequence? Maybe I will try again and power everything off and on again.

EDIT: Just tried it all again, powered everything off, then reattaching everything and powering the TV on first, then the Sky box and it works!!! Thanks for your post - I had previously given up, but since you posted saying yours worked it gave me the impetus to try again!

[NickR]

I'm looking to capture video (and audio) from my Sky HD box in the best possible quality audio & video.

I have an HDCP stripper which appears to be working fine.

Please can you let me know which one? (PM is necessary.)

I have tried this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330935149418

And can confirm it does NOT work with the Sky HD 1TB box. I get an error "This television does not support HDCP, please contact Sky on telephone xxxxxxxx" or similar message.

Thats strange, I have this box and I dont get that error on my TV, I have the older smaller capacity SKY+ HD box DRX780, do you get any errors on the capture device?

Yes, I was very surprised. I bought that box fully expecting it to work.

To be honest I didn't even try the capture box (AVermedia Live Gamer Portable) because the Sky box would not output a picture even to the television with no capture box attached.

Did you have to plug things in in any particular sequence? Maybe I will try again and power everything off and on again.

However, I have since found a thread on the Sky forums where loads of peoples' TV's are not working (with the same error as above) following a Sky update. I am wondering if Sky have blacklisted some HDCP keys, rendering some of these splitters useless. I hope not.

I just pulled the hdmi cable out of the tv and connected to the 1 to 2 box and connected to tv and LGP no probs?

Last time I used the LGP was a couple of weeks ago, I don't think theres been a sky update since? I have a Sony KDL32w4000 not sure if it is tv dependent?

[NickR]

I'm looking to capture video (and audio) from my Sky HD box in the best possible quality audio & video.

I have an HDCP stripper which appears to be working fine.

Please can you let me know which one? (PM is necessary.)

I have tried this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330935149418

And can confirm it does NOT work with the Sky HD 1TB box. I get an error "This television does not support HDCP, please contact Sky on telephone xxxxxxxx" or similar message.

Thats strange, I have this box and I dont get that error on my TV, I have the older smaller capacity SKY+ HD box DRX780, do you get any errors on the capture device?

Yes, I was very surprised. I bought that box fully expecting it to work.

To be honest I didn't even try the capture box (AVermedia Live Gamer Portable) because the Sky box would not output a picture even to the television with no capture box attached.

Did you have to plug things in in any particular sequence? Maybe I will try again and power everything off and on again.

EDIT: Just tried it all again, powered everything off, then reattaching everything and powering the TV on first, then the Sky box and it works!!! Thanks for your post - I had previously given up, but since you posted saying yours worked it gave me the impetus to try again!

Thats great!. Ill be interested to know if you can record in pc free mode?

I can confirm this works http://r.ebay.com/NgPrmS

SKY HD box > splitter > Avermedia Live Gamer Portable > Laptop captured using AVerMedia RECentral. I can't use PC-Free on the ALGP, the lights around the button flash red then blue which means error of some kind?

I thinks the only way to get the ALGP to work in PC-FREE mode would be to use a DVI & S/PDIF Digital Coax/Optical Toslink Audio to HDMI® Converter ?

Update :- Tried a different SD Card, now works fin in PC-FREE Mode https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/334145-HDCP-strippers?p=2293266&viewfull=1#post2293266

[jagabo]

EDIT: Just tried it all again, powered everything off, then reattaching everything and powering the TV on first, then the Sky box and it works!!! Thanks for your post - I had previously given up, but since you posted saying yours worked it gave me the impetus to try again!

My splitter occasionally screws up too. Usually just powering it off then back on is enough to "fix" it.

[fritzi93]

EDIT: Just tried it all again, powered everything off, then reattaching everything and powering the TV on first, then the Sky box and it works!!! Thanks for your post - I had previously given up, but since you posted saying yours worked it gave me the impetus to try again!

My splitter occasionally screws up too. Usually just powering it off then back on is enough to "fix" it.

IIRC, others have said the same in their reviews.

[dylanvision]

Could anyone here tell me if any of these HDMI splitter can disable the HDCP from the PS3/PS4, allowing you to capture the games via HDMI.


http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=hdmi+splitter+1x2&catId=0&initiative_id...20140105155038



Tnks

[SixFiftyThree]

Ill be interested to know if you can record in pc free mode?

Yes. I can perfectly record PS3 with the Avermedia LGP, in PC-free mode, using this exact ViewHD splitter from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004F9LVXC/

The quality is excellent but only with the splitter. HDMI is a must for the LGP as its component quality is awful (at least my unit). Feel free to ask me any questions on this topic.

[NickR]

Ill be interested to know if you can record in pc free mode?

Yes. I can perfectly record PS3 with the Avermedia LGP, in PC-free mode, using this exact ViewHD splitter from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004F9LVXC/

The quality is excellent but only with the splitter. HDMI is a must for the LGP as its component quality is awful (at least my unit). Feel free to ask me any questions on this topic.

Thanks for that, got me thinking there must be something wrong with my setup, tried another sd card which was a SanDisk Extreme Pro® SDHC™ UHS-I Card - 8GB worked a treat. The card I was using was a cheap 32gb supposedly Class 10 which actually worked using the PS3 Cable Supplied with the LGP si I guess outputting HDMI must be doing something different than outputting from the PS3 port?

BTW I tried to record a Blu Ray Disc using the PS3, I got the same error. I'm not bothered about that as I'm just trying to record clips from SKY HD.

Thanks

[NickR]

Can you explain how you got the LGP to record to the SD Card?

I don't know much about the device, just what I've read. Did you flip the switch from PC to SD card? Do you have a class 10 SDHC card? Is it formatted FAT32 (not NTFS)?

Update :- Tried a different SD Card, now works fine in PC-FREE Mode https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/334145-HDCP-strippers?p=2293266&viewfull=1#post2293266

[Chippy_boy]

Something I have noticed (which is a little annoying) with the LGP is that because it only supports FAT32 on the SD (not ExFAT or NTFS) then you are limited to 4gb file sizes (of course). This means 33 minutes of recording only - anything longer and the recording is automatically split across multiple files. This would not be a problem in itself, but unfortunately the LGP drops a frame or two every time, so if you are wanting to edit the clips back together into a single movie for example, you get a jump every 33 minutes. Not ideal!

[Seeker47]

A friend of mine is attending CES right now, as he does almost every year for a long time. He tells me that he spoke with someone from the HDMI forum (this proceeds from an article link I sent him about HDMI 2.0), who mentioned that a new encryption key is on the way, to replace the one that got published on the 'net in late 2012, providing the basis for the CVID, View-HD, etc. black boxes. Bad news, if that is accurate, but not entirely unexpected. Is the consumer electronics industry really prepared to invalidate the ginormous installed base of existing equipment people already own, all in the name of kowtowing to Big Content ? Guess we're going to find out, soon enough.

They're also dreaming, if they think that 4K gear is going to have any significant market impact, in the reasonably near-term future.

[Chopmeister]

I doubt it. I understood that the one which leaked was the HDCP master key, which allows anyone to create their own source and sink keys.

Unless they replace the whole infrastructure, which would make any TV etc released to date incompatible with new players, I don't see how they can do this. I suspect they will go hard for 4K as a video standard, and put out a new digital protection schema with that which isn't backwards compatible.

[Capture]

Which are good capture devices to capture video and sound in upto 1080p from a Sky HD box?

I know Sky doesn't have 1080p, but I just want to future proof.

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[jagabo]

I suspect they will go hard for 4K as a video standard, and put out a new digital protection schema with that which isn't backwards compatible.

That's probably what's holding up the 4K disc format. They'll introduce a new cable and say it is necessary to deliver the highest quality -- when the real reason is the new encryption. Early adopters getting their 4K TVs now will be screwed. Just like early adopters of HDTVs were screwed by HDMI+HDCP.

[The_Cable_Guy]

Hello everybody,

I'm looking for an HDMI-splitter that
- can decode/strip HDCP 1.x
- pass through HD-audio like DTS-HD 5.1/LPCM 5.1/DSD 5.1 via HDMI

I have purchased a couple of different splitters at Ali. They do strip HDCP but convert multichannel audio signal into stereo.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help.

P.S. If someone needs a 1x1 or 1x2 splitter with the desired function for video let me know as I'm going to sell them anyway.

[SHS]

Hello everybody,

I'm looking for an HDMI-splitter that
- can decode/strip HDCP 1.x
- pass through HD-audio like DTS-HD 5.1/LPCM 5.1/DSD 5.1 via HDMI

I have purchased a couple of different splitters at Ali. They do strip HDCP but convert multichannel audio signal into stereo.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help.

P.S. If someone needs a 1x1 or 1x2 splitter with the desired function for video let me know as I'm going to sell them anyway.

If you want keep multichannel audio I do believe you need do it like this look at DVI-HDMI Converter.
What I don't know if they embed the audio sources in to HDMI output

[NickR]

Hello everybody,

I'm looking for an HDMI-splitter that
- can decode/strip HDCP 1.x
- pass through HD-audio like DTS-HD 5.1/LPCM 5.1/DSD 5.1 via HDMI

I have purchased a couple of different splitters at Ali. They do strip HDCP but convert multichannel audio signal into stereo.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help.

P.S. If someone needs a 1x1 or 1x2 splitter with the desired function for video let me know as I'm going to sell them anyway.

If you want keep multichannel audio I do believe you need do it like this look at DVI-HDMI Converter.

The Cable Guy, if this is what you need and you are in the uk I have just purchased one of these complete with hdmi to dvi cable and uk adapter, this is now surplus to my requirements because a standard hdmi stripper is all I need, I don't need anything other than stereo/mono audio. Let me know if you are interested.

Cheers

[The_Cable_Guy]

SHS, NickR,

Thanks for your prompt replies!

As input and output are both HDMI, a DVI-HDMI converter doesn't seem to be a perfect solution...

I've tested the following converters:

1. White one
2. Silver one
3. Black one

All of them can decode HDCP but useless for me...

[Brad]

I'm looking for an HDMI-splitter that
- can decode/strip HDCP 1.x
- pass through HD-audio like DTS-HD 5.1/LPCM 5.1/DSD 5.1 via HDMI

Do you have a capture device that can record those types of audio?

Both devices on the output side of the splitter have to support multichannel audio unless you're using a playback device that you can force to use a given output format. I think using a 2-channel TV, etc. might be your problem since one of the splitters you say you tried specifically mentions supporting DTS-HD and other formats.