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I don't know of any Capture Device that can record any other audio format 5.1 or 7.1 via HDMI other then AC3 with HD-PVR 2 that why you best to used Coax or Optical Digital or must re-embedded multichannel audio as AC3 sources ouput.Originally Posted by vaporeon800
Do you have a capture device that can record those types of audio?Originally Posted by The_Cable_Guy
Both devices on the output side of the splitter have to support multichannel audio unless you're using a playback device that you can force to use a given output format. I think using a 2-channel TV, etc. might be your problem since one of the splitters you say you tried specifically mentions supporting DTS-HD and other formats.
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Last edited by SHS; 19th Jan 2014 at 11:44.
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The original HD-PVR1 can do AC3 5.1 via optical too. But other than that and the HD-PVR2, I don't know of any either.
So, are the Hauppauge capture devices the only ones that can do anything besides stereo?Pull! Bang! Darn!
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Well yes that one as well as the Hauppauge Colossus but I was just use that as an example fritzi93Originally Posted by fritzi93
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vaporeon800,
I don't have any recording devices but a set of wireless headphones with HDMI inputs.
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Formerly 'vaporeon800'
- Apr 2001
- Vancouver, Canada
Please describe your setup (other devices you are hooking up) and your goal. You have heaphones that support DTS-HD MA yet don't support HDCP?
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Right.Originally Posted by vaporeon800
Setup: DVD/SACD/BD-Player + Sony MDR-HW700DS + LCD TV, connected via HDMI. The headphones support HD-audio (DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD, LPCM) via HDMI. However, SACD/DVDA signal output via HDMI is blocked by the means of HDCP encryption. There is no sound output when playing SACD/DVDA-discs (signal input via HDMI).
Goals: 1. SACD/DVDA 2.0/5.1 (DSD/MLP is converted to PCM) audio output. 2. HD-audio pass-through.Last edited by The_Cable_Guy; 14th Jan 2014 at 11:38.
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From what I heard about those over price sony headphones they have to be connected directly to device output meaning no receiver, no switcher, no splitter nor any converter for it to work or have use RCA or Optical.Originally Posted by The_Cable_Guy
Right.Originally Posted by vaporeon800
Setup: DVD/SACD/BD-Player + Sony MDR-HW700DS + LCD TV, connected via HDMI. The headphones support HD-audio (DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD, LPCM) via HDMI. However, SACD/DVDA signal output via HDMI is blocked by the means of HDCP encryption. There is no sound output via HDMI when playing SACD/DVDA-discs.
Goals: 1. SACD/DVDA 2.0/5.1 (DSD/MLP is converted to PCM) audio output. 2. HD-audio pass-through.
You want check with folks at Atlona as they may have something for that but you may end up spent close $250/300 for right converter if that got any thing.
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SHS,
It's all about SACD/DVD-Audio audio output via HDMI... This function is blocked by Sony (what company wants to sell absolutely universal products?
). These headphones are worth the money you have to spend on them, trust me (^-^)
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It could be that SACD/DVD-Audio they employ copy protection mechanism on those disc may not be support on that sony device so call them and bitch.
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SHS,
It's just because of HDCP 1.x. The processor unit blocks any audio transmission. However, I've been able to hear 2.0 audio when playing these audio formats (using the above mentioned splitters) but I'm still struggling with 5.1...
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Formerly 'vaporeon800'
- Apr 2001
- Vancouver, Canada
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I assume you've tried player -> splitter -> headphones with no TV connected. I guess that requires memorizing the menu steps.Originally Posted by The_Cable_Guy
So the headphones by themselves can reproduce DTS-HD from a Blu-ray player, even though that should be HDCP-encrypted, while SACD/DVDA output is blocked by HDCP? Very confusing.
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Formerly 'vaporeon800'
- Apr 2001
- Vancouver, Canada
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Could it be CPPM that prevented the DVD-Audio playback?
Originally Posted by Random Panasonic DVD manual
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Member
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- drifting, somewhere on the Sea of Cynicism
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On the subject of recording HD video (also covered in this thread, and as opposed to recording gameplay, which holds zero interest for me), after comparing reviews and specs, I would be leaning towards the AVermedia Live Gamer Portable. This is also based on the standalone, record-to-SD-card capability. The notable 'Cons' mentioned in regard to it included the lack of USB-3 support -- only USB-2 -- and some dissatisfaction with the software. This got me to thinking about what latest / forthcoming models Avermedia may have unveiled at the recent CES. So far, I've just managed to find this one:
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/multimedia/38595-avermedia-extremecap-u3-video-gam...capture-device
A quick skim of the review reveals USB-3 capability, possibly enhanced recording specs, but I did not see mention of any SD card for this one. I wouldn't want to get the LGP if a newer model is just around the corner.When in Las Vegas, don't miss the Pinball Hall of Fame Museum http://www.pinballmuseum.org/ -- with over 150 tables from 6+ decades of this quintessentially American art form.
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Formerly 'vaporeon800'
- Apr 2001
- Vancouver, Canada
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Correct, that one needs to be connected to a PC.
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the only mention of codecs is h264. so is how it the device capable of uncompressed to h264 ? the target is ease of capturing, usually h264/avc. anyway.
that site is full of ads and is spread on 5 pages (for the ads and hits/visits counters) and i must have seen each pages two or three times to understand what the product was about. i hate sites that practice such cruelty to people.
Code:Page 1 of 5 A long time ago, I got a brand new Nintendo Entertainment System for Christmas and I started playing Super Mario Bros. I had been playing games for years at that point, but they were always on older systems, ones that I got used or maybe long after launch, so even though everything was new to me it was old news for most of my friends. I started playing games back when they were dominated by books and everything was played on paper and in our imagination. Then I continued to play through the generations of Atari consoles, like the 2600 and 7800. As soon as I got my hands on that new Nintendo, all I wanted to do was play 24/7. While playing, there were so many times I ran out to tell my sister or my mom about my latest conquest (both of whom I am sure were on the edge of their seats awaiting my latest update). I just wanted someone to share my happiness. <image> Once I started playing new games for the first time all I wanted to do was show people, friends, and family alike all the cool things I was doing. I wanted someone to see how cool it was, the same way that I was seeing it. Things like reaching the top of the flagpole, or using the stairs trick with that turtle duck thing to get infinite lives. Alas, there was no means to do that, short of using the huge and very off limits family camcorder. In more recent times things like game play and how to’s have grown in popularity via sites like YouTube and the internet in general. Quite a few companies have been scrambling to make it easier for people to record game play for sharing. For the longest time Fraps was the go to program for game recording on PCs, but as great as Fraps is it is only usable on PC and even then users will need a fairly powerful PC to use it and run the game at max settings. Game capture and live streaming have become so popular that the newest consoles include those abilities with the console, and Nvidia has allowed for users of their newest, higher end cards to have a built in game capture. But what about everyone else? <image> The AverMedia EXTREMECAP U3 makes recording game play a breeze, and is useable for PC and consoles alike. The EXTREMECAP U3 by AVerMedia allows you to capture uncompressed full HD video via a USB 3.0 at a full 1080p and 60FPS. The EXTREMECAP U3 also allows for streaming video. The EXTREMECAP U3 measures 137.2 (w) x 84.8 (d) x 18.55 (h) mm it weighs 182 grams and comes with the micro USB 3.0 cord and the component video/stereo dongle cables. Set up is very easy and all the programs one needs are readily available on the AVerMedia website. It even comes replete with 3rd party plug-ins for Adobe Premiere Pro CS6, and Sony Vegas. The bundled software includes AVerMedia RECentral, and the USB 3.0 Diagnosis Tool. Other compliant software includes DirectShow compliant software: e.g., XSplit, OBS, AmaRecTV, Potplayer. ------------------------------------------- Page 2 of 5 http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/multimedia/38595-avermedia-extremecap-u3-video-game-capture-device?showall=&start=1 <video> <image> <image> <image> <image> <image> ------------------------------------------- Page 3 of 5 Specifications: Input: HDMI / Component Recording Format: MP$ (H.264, AAC) System Requirements: For HD 1080p @ 60FPS - Intel core i5 3400 series with Ivy Bridge platform and 4GB RAM For HD 720p @ 60FPS - Intel core i3 3200 series with Ivy Bridge platform and 4GB RAM A USB 3.0 on a PC ------------------------------------------- Page 4 of 5 To test the AverMedia EXTREMECAP U3 I checked for ease of use, learning curve, and effectiveness. To do this I connected the EXTREMECAP U3 to my PC and recorded some game play and an overview of the bundled software. Test System(s): Test Equipment CPU- Intel Core i7 4770K @ 4.426GHz Mother Board- ASUS Maximus VI Formula GPU- Gigabyte GTX 770 Windforce 4GB RAM- Corsair Dominator Platinum (16GB) @ 2133 Storage- Samsung 840 120GB SSD (OS BOOT) Storage- Toshiba 1TB HDD (X2 Raid 0) PSU- Corsair HX 1050 PSU Cooling- Cooler Master Seidon 120XL Testing: Controls and Interface / Software Quality of Capture Setup and utility Controls and Interface I have seriously never done anything on a PC that was any easier to do than setting up this capture device and recording videos. Controlling the EXTREMECAP U3 is seriously easy, so much so infact that I find it more difficult to explain than to do. Once the RECentral software is on you PC and you plug in the simple cables correctly you can simply press a single button and be completely ready to record, preparing to stream is only slightly more work as you have to link your account. For people who want more control than a simple one touch automatic setup there is plenty of options for every nuance of the device, giving you the ability to control everything form where to store the files, to whether or not to collect head phone/microphone sound. In short the controls are complete and so very easy. Quality of Capture The video that is captured by the EXTREMECAP U3 is exactly what it says it is, full-uncompressed, 1080p @ 60FPS. Anything else that I say is just gratuitous, but I might as well. Some of the videos that I captured using the EXTREMECAP U3 actually seemed smoother than the actual gameplay was in the first place. I cannot explain that phenomenom but it is true, though not very often, most of my gameplay happens at greater than 60FPS so I think that is the cause. The different options available for viewing the videos in playback affects the look. For instance, I like to use VLC a lot because it plays almost anything, but it does often play it at lower quality than some other players. None of that will be a concern using the AverMedia EXTREMECAP U3 because the video quality is top notch and many types of software is supported. Setup and Utility Setup was easy, easy, easy. Did I mention that it was easy? It is almost as easy as plug and play devices, just grab the software from the website (http://gamerzone.avermedia.com/), then plug the correct cables into the correct ports and you are ready to record. I used it exclusively on PC but I imagine setup on consoles and other devices will be just as easy. ------------------------------------------- Page 5 of 5 Provided by: AverMedia No Compensation was received for review of this product. Price Point Price: $166.99 (@Amazon) Class: Enthusiast At a price point of $166.99 the AverMedia EXTREMECAP U3 lands in the Enthusiast category of Capture devices Reviewer's Opinion Using the ExtremeCap U3 has been an absolute joy. It is not often that something is even easier than it seems it would be. AverMedia have made this capture device almost as easy as plug and play, the only thing I had to do was download and install RECentral from their website. After that I was off and away playing with the setup and recording gameplay. Even setting the ExtremeCap U3 up and getting it ready for use is very easy, there is literally a “One Click” button that will set everything for you, of course for users like me who want to control every detail and each individual setting all of that is readily available and easily understood. Connecting the ExtremeCap U3 is also quite easy; I used it on my gaming desk top and simply plugged the USB 3.0 into a spot on the front of the PC and then attached and extra HDMI from my PC to the ExtremeCap U3. There are a couple different ways to hook this up using component cables and HDMI, the way I hooked it up caused an optical illusion where I saw my desktop repeated over and over again. It was still a simple thing to ignore it and use it like that. The videos that are captured by the AverMedia ExtremeCap U3 are great looking, very clear and high quality, just as one would expect. Seeing it in my review video does not do it justice because we sample everything down to 720p so that a broader audience is able to watch our videos. But the ExtremeCap U3 does make great 1080p videos, and they are ready to share or view right away using just about any media player you prefer. I do want to point out an error I made while recording the software RECentral, I showed that the AverMedia ExtremeCap U3 saves audio files from a microphone separately as MP3, later I saw that was an option that can be checked or unchecked. So it is possible to record commentary directly into the audio of the video, but I suggest not doing that because then balance could be an issue. If you keep it as separate MP3 then you can edit and adjust at your leisure. Simply put this is one of the highest end capture cards that I know of, it works like a charm, is simple enough to use that anyone could, and records video that realistically is higher FPS and higher resolution than many people even play at. Users will be hard pressed to find a better way to capture and stream game play. I did not test the streaming aspect of the ExtremeCap U3, primarily because I do not have an account with any streaming sites, but also because I do not think my terrible internet could handle it. I would imagine it takes a pretty high bandwidth to actually stream full 1080p @ 60FPS. As I said in the video, both of the newest consoles allow for game capture already, but upon further investigating I guess it seems like it saves the video one the console and it can be shared in its raw form to YouTube or Face Book or many other social sites. If that is the case then that makes the AverMedia ExtremeCap U3 a clear choice for being able to actually take extended videos, and being able to edit them into something worth watching. The only thing even comparable is NVidia’s Shadow Play on their latest cards. But for consoles and red team users the ExtremeCap U3 is a great tool. Due to its ease of use and setup I am giving the ExtremeCap U3 a Gold Award. It has been a long time since something was this easy to use and worked exactly as well as it should. The only thing I found lacking at all was a second HDMI port for “out” so that I could use a second monitor and avoid that optical illusion, but with USB 3.0 speeds it isn’t needed so I understand why they saved the space, and the money. Pros Simple and portable design frees you from the confines of a single device Stunning quality of captured footage- indiscernible from original One touch set up for novice users, but full featured control for demanding users Price Takes the strain off of gaming consoles and PCs allowing for better gameplay capture Cons The only thing I can dig up is that I would have liked to have another HDMI out portLast edited by vhelp; 27th Jan 2014 at 21:40.
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Formerly 'vaporeon800'
- Apr 2001
- Vancouver, Canada
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It sends uncompressed 4:2:2 over the USB3 bus and their software only offers H.264 compression.
Other software can do whatever it wants with the data. It's no different than the uncompressed USB2 capture sticks you see for SD video that claim they encode to DVD!! and iPod!!.
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we all know we can record even at 1080p with no problems. heck, i do it on my netbook. but page 3 of 5 is confusing the requirements. is this a hardware h264/avc recorder or something else ?
unless it should really read as:Code:Page 3 of 5 Specifications: Input: HDMI / Component Recording Format: MP$ (H.264, AAC) System Requirements: For HD 1080p @ 60FPS - Intel core i5 3400 series with Ivy Bridge platform and 4GB RAM For HD 720p @ 60FPS - Intel core i3 3200 series with Ivy Bridge platform and 4GB RAM A USB 3.0 on a PC
Code:Page 3 of 5 Specifications: Input: HDMI / Component Recording Format: MP$ (H.264, AAC) Uncompressed: over usb3 System Requirements: h264/aac: For HD 1080p, 720p @ 60FPS uncompressed: For HD 1080p @ 60FPS - Intel core i5 3400 series with Ivy Bridge platform and 4GB RAM uncompressed: For HD 720p @ 60FPS - Intel core i3 3200 series with Ivy Bridge platform and 4GB RAM
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Formerly 'vaporeon800'
- Apr 2001
- Vancouver, Canada
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As I said, it's a software encoder that sends uncompressed video to your computer. No H.264 hardware inside.
The system requirements are for your CPU to encode in real-time.
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I've read this thread but between all the UK vs US and different versions of items I'm still confused as to which models actually still strip HDCP. Can anyone who has recently gotten lucky point me to a definite 1x2 or 1x4 switcher from a US seller that still works? I bought one off eBay and struck out so I don't want to make the same mistake again
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Yes, this ViewHD 1x2 splitter I posted about earlier is 100% effective at stripping HDCP: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004F9LVXC/Originally Posted by cp2k
I suggest buying it directly from that Amazon link, as similar models may not work or items on eBay may be different despite advertising the same model.
Additionally, here is a good thread with recommended hardware for capturing HDCP-encrypted sources:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/How-to-capture-HDCP-encrypted-HDMI-sources-...c/topic/15179/
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I'm guessing I would need to source a UK power supply. Can anyone suggest a UK seller I can pick this up from?Originally Posted by SixFiftyThree
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Why? It's rated at 100-240V so a cheap travel adapter does just fine. Otherwise just buy a 5V power supply in UK if you don't like adapters.Originally Posted by dvd-boy
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I bought this device directly from the link your provided a couple days ago. My setup is a bit odd, I use my capture card (Blackmagic Intensity Pro) to stream more so than record. For my setup it goes from the PS4, to the ViewHD splitter, to the HDMI input on the card, and from there through the HDMI output on the card to my monitor/tv.Originally Posted by SixFiftyThree
The issue I am having is I am receiving a picture on my monitor, but no sound, and any streaming software I use (Xsplit or OBS) is only seeing a black screen. The video settings on the capture card are correct, as are the video settings on the PS4. In the past, if I didn't have the settings perfect or the card wasn't seeing the device I wouldn't even get the picture on my monitor/tv. Also, I only get picture on my monitor/tv when the streaming software is running (which is normal).
My question is, does that mean my ViewHD is not stripping HDCP?
Edit: Problem solved. I am leaving this up for future people that may need help with a similar setup.
The input on my BMIP is HDMI Video & HDMI Audio, set default video standard is: HD 720p 59.94, (Found through Xsplit video configure settings of the Blackmagic WDM) Video Format is HD 720p 59.94 - 8 bit 4:2:2 YUV. For the PS4 your settings HAVE to be set to 720p resolution, FULL RGB range (not auto), and FULL Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Range (not auto). Unplugging the PS4 from any setup to gain access to the PS4 will revert the settings (urgh), so just plug in your monitor/tv HDMI cable to the 2nd port on the ViewHD splitter to gain temporary access to your PS4, unplugging the monitor/tv from the splitter and back into the output port of the BMIP will not revert the changes.Last edited by Aquaserge; 15th Feb 2014 at 13:03.
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Hey everyone. I am new around here and I just got the viewhd splitter but it does not seem to work for me. When I connect the HDMI cable from my Sky HD box to the HDMI Splitter it seems fine but when output the signal using a HDMI to HD components the HD PVR can't get a signal. Is it because I am using HDMI to HD components cable? I've tried the cable direct from my Sky HD to the HDTV and it does the same no signal. Saying that I thought this cable would work with the splitter? I only bought this cable to make sure the splitter works before buying another HD PVR. Also which HD PVR would people recommend?
Thanks in Advice.
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Just received my no-name 1x2 splitter and it works great, no problems of any kind. Just wanted to know should I keep it powered on all the time when I'm not use it or turn it off ? How durable and reliable are these little things? And they are indeed tiny, I was surprised that both metal box and power adapter are smaller than I thought.
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This is a bit late, but perhaps it will help someone else. It sounds like you're trying to use an HDMI to (5) RCA component adapter cable. That will NOT work. Such cables only work if analog is being pushed through HDMI. Supposedly. I dunno any devices like that but maybe there are some. Like this:Originally Posted by jj60
http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-538581-HDMI-Cable-5-Feet/dp/B005QWH4QA/ref=sr_1_1?s=ele...omponent+cable
To get (digital) HDMI signal to the (analog) component inputs on an HD-PVR, you need something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Loftek%C2%AE-HDfuryproTwo-Component-Converter-Surround/dp/B009YP...QXMMNTCG00CFVF
I have an original Hauppauge HD-PVR and use a ViewHD converter that looks identical to the HDFury2, apart from the labeling. I can confirm it works. Unfortunately, it's currently unavailable.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7GD44A/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1Pull! Bang! Darn!
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You should switch it off if you're not using it for a prolonged period of time, but having said that, my ViewHD splitter is on almost all the time. So yes they are quite durable/reliable in my experience. I've only had a few instances where it rejected the signal, and it has been ages since that happened (I've had the unit for a long time now). For such a low price, a rare hiccup is fine with me, given that these little devices offer the cleanest solution possible for defeating HDCP. If it malfunctions, just power cycle and you're good again.Originally Posted by badyu17
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Thanks for advice, I thought so, I will probably order another unit since it's so cheap just to have it around. I'm really impressed how it's working so far.
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First of all you can't use el-cheap HDMI to Component adapter cable they only work with very few device most just some old ATI Video card and why that is as it can output a Component Signal over HDMI port which can setup in Catalyst Control Center SoftwareOriginally Posted by fritzi93
This is a bit late, but perhaps it will help someone else. It sounds like you're trying to use an HDMI to (5) RCA component adapter cable. That will NOT work. Such cables only work if analog is being pushed through HDMI. Supposedly. I dunno any devices like that but maybe there are some. Like this:Originally Posted by jj60
http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-538581-HDMI-Cable-5-Feet/dp/B005QWH4QA/ref=sr_1_1?s=ele...omponent+cable
or
http://www.amazon.com/E-More%C2%AE-Component-Video-Converter-Supporting/dp/B00J22LGYG/...E7QD8JB9ED31T5
To get (digital) HDMI signal to the (analog) component inputs on an HD-PVR, you need something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Loftek%C2%AE-HDfuryproTwo-Component-Converter-Surround/dp/B009YP...QXMMNTCG00CFVF
I have an original Hauppauge HD-PVR and use a ViewHD converter that looks identical to the HDFury2, apart from the labeling. I can confirm it works. Unfortunately, it's currently unavailable.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7GD44A/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You have to have HDMI Input with Component output on the Converter Box there very hard to mine in reg store best option is hit ebay
http://www.amazon.com/E-More%C2%AE-Component-Converter-Supporting-Coaxial/dp/B00JVNUAE...891134&sr=1-79
or
http://www.amazon.com/E-More%C2%AE-Component-Video-Converter-Supporting/dp/B00J22LGYG/...E7QD8JB9ED31T5
With HD-PVR 2 all Model, Rocket and Colossus the use this
http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Port-Powered-Splitter-1080P/dp/B004F9LVXC/ref=sr_sp-atf_t...iewhd+splitterLast edited by SHS; 4th Jun 2014 at 09:33.
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Like SixFiftyThree, ours is left on all the time. If it is switched on/off with all the other equipment (HTPC, TV, splitter) HDMI isn't always negotiated properly (depending on the order/timing in which the devices are turned on). For example, the link between the HTPC and the splitter may not include HDCP so Windows Media Center refuses to play protected cable content. Or PNP may negotiate 1024x768p instead of 1920x1080i (we have WMC set up to output 1080i but it always renegotiates the resolution on power-up). If we leave the splitter on all the time it doesn't matter whether the TV or HTPC is switched on first.Originally Posted by badyu17
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