VideoReDo TVSuite & Professional - General Discussion Thread

[Bridgy]

Yep all good, 4tb NVMe drive (Crutial T500) is $750 but that is a very fast drive (read speed is 6,500 and write speed is 6,000) so one can get a slower version for maybe $650 so yeah, they definitely are not for everyone, but i don't download multiple terabytes of movies or record TV shows like a lot of people do, my own personal files only total 480gb and i have 300gb of all our travel videos recorded since the late 90's so my files drive in the Dell PC is an encrypted 1tb Crucial T500 NVMe, and i have a 500gb T500 for my Win 11 X-Lite and the smaller 2230 NVMe drive has my Windows 10 on it (set up in dual boot mode with the X-Lite)

Also have a variety of NVMe drives for my windows clones and Files backups.

[Marayong]

I used to have a lot of Samsung SSDs, but have had so much trouble with them failing, both internal 2.5" ones and external drives. I'll never buy another one again. I only ever bothered to RMA one of them and that one had 'galloping cluster cancer' .. every time it was plugged in more clusters had died. Even then, that took over 9 months to get a refund and that was after dozens and dozens of reminders from me and getting the issue escalated up to the highest level of so-called tech support. In the end I threatened to go to a relevant ombudsman and that finally got some action .. but still glacially slow. I was told they would only accept a RMA for a drive that had more than a certain % of dead clusters. Personally, if a drive has one dead cluster, I ain't going to use it .. one will soon become many. One of the drives the case split .. not RMAable. Another couple the circuitry failed and multiple computers all failed to detect anything was plugged in .. again not RMAable. I've got over a dozen of them sitting in a box, plus a few more still apparently 'working' but I'd not abuse a computer by installing them. Oddly enough I have one Samsung that hasn't died and that's a 8T one, which I still use for internal data backups. I say oddly because that model was notorious for having issues.

These days I use Kingston drives for the boot drive (and clones), plus the main data drive, and WD and Seagates for the higher capacity ones. The biggest are some WD helium 16T drives - platter drives designed for data centres. I've been using the Kingstons for a couple years now and not a single issue. Touch wood!! Not cheap, but very reliable.

[Alwyn]

Can you guys please stay on topic; we've now got over 12 posts totally unrelated to VRD.

[Bridgy]

Can you guys please stay on topic; we've now got over 12 posts totally unrelated to VRD.

Here we go again, it seems like you are totally incapable of taking a hint so it seems, and just in case you did not realize it, your post above is actually OFF TOPIC too, then again not one of your other posts in this thread have ever had anything to do with this topic either.

Just go away and leave the kids to play without being dictated to by the forum police.

[Alwyn]

Are you OK, Bridgy?

[Bridgy]

Are you OK, Bridgy?

Still nothing to post about the topic of the thread ???

Send me a PM and we can take this outside of my thread.

[Alwyn]

Still nothing to post about the topic of the thread ???

Send me a PM and we can take this outside of my thread.

It's a pity you don't apply the same idea to your postings here. You've made more totally off-topic posts in this thread in the last few days than I have ever done.

This is not "your" thread. It's VideoHelp's thread. You just started it.

I am a user of VRD and am interested in what people have to say about it. Every time I see a notification I look at the thread. Go back over the last few days. Pages of non-relevant stuff. You are actually doing the thread a disservice because people are less likely to come here when they realise most of your recent posts have had nothing to do with VRD. Why would they bother coming back?

You might like to revisit the rules, specifically:

Do not hijack topics.
Please try to stick to the author's first post in each topic, if you want to discuss something else, create a new topic.

Clearly, your recent posts don't comply.

[Bridgy]

Still nothing to post about the topic of the thread ???
Send me a PM and we can take this outside of my thread.

It's a pity you don't apply the same idea to your postings here. You've made more totally off-topic posts in this thread in the last few days than I have ever done.
This is not "your" thread. It's VideoHelp's thread. You just started it.
I am a user of VRD and am interested in what people have to say about it. Every time I see a notification I look at the thread. Go back over the last few days. Pages of non-relevant stuff. You are actually doing the thread a disservice because people are less likely to come here when they realise most of your recent posts have had nothing to do with VRD. Why would they bother coming back?
You might like to revisit the rules, specifically:

Do not hijack topics.
Please try to stick to the author's first post in each topic, if you want to discuss something else, create a new topic.

Clearly, your recent posts don't comply.

There is a reporting button on these pages, please be my guest and press it, or report me directly to the moderators, but personally i don't care if every off topic post that i and others have made are removed, i definitely won't be losing sleep over it.

This would apply to all posts made by Marayong as well.

You have the ability to make your own thread, and you can disable notification for this thread given every time your alert goes off and you arrive in here just to find more fudder from me and others.

Why don't you just go over to the Reddit forum where you might enjoy the company of others over there.

Edit: Never had to report a post before, seems like you can't use this button to report Off Topic rants, looks like you might need to report me directly to the forum moderator if you want off topis rants removed.


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[Baldrick]

I don't mind some off topic stuff. But maybe not this much so please stay a bit on topic now. Use the PM function to discuss private.

I will not remove any posts because I'm busy blocking bots taking over my site.

[Bridgy]

I don't mind some off topic stuff. But maybe not this much so please stay a bit on topic now. Use the PM function to discuss private.
I will not remove any posts because I'm busy blocking bots taking over my site.

Ok thank you, i was hoping to hear from you at some time, i even wanted to message you about this so called Off Topic stuff but i know you are probably a busy person, and i did ask my great Aussie friend Mr Alwyn to report our posts if he doesn't like them, obviously he might have, but that is ok for me, he never contributes, but all he does is complains.

Good luck with the Bots, but i am curious as to what these Bots might be doing.

[Marayong]

I'm keeping out of the firestorm, but I will pop up to note that many users of VRD generate a lot of video files and in that context, discussion about storage media could be considered somewhat relevant .. if you've used VRD to generate a few TBs of video files, then suggestions how to safely store those videos is of importance, both methods of storage, even brands. Different people use VRD in different ways and those different ways give rise to different storage needs. Someone in the future seeing the above discussion can get some hints as to what storage they need given their use of VRD .. be it after editing and saving a few videos off one's phone to editing and saving large numbers of FTA (etc) recorded shows using VRD. As I said, somewhat relevant, especially since this was set up as a 'general discussion thread for VRD'.

[Bridgy]

Yeah we all go off on tangents, at least those who are not sticks in the mud who want to strictly conform to the rules of the world, some people are just born like that and have nothing better to do with their time but to nag and hinder others.

I could ignore the naggers but i like to call them out when i feel the need to do so, but given my own use of VRD is somewhat different than other members, i don't think there is any need for me to be here any more, so my mate Mr Alwyn, the stage is all yours my friend.

Cheers, be great to have a beer or 3 with you one day.

[hydra3333]

An off-topic post from me, apologies in advance, only because 'bots' were mentioned.
I got what I suspect to be a few seemingly AI posts on a thread recently ... longish, waffly, standard-outline, off-topic, newish users, but that's not the same as bot, is it ?

[Marayong]

At the risk of getting off theme again ... AIs are just bots with more advanced programming. All AI are bots, but not all bots are AI. As for your description of the posts you encountered, such posts could be AI, but they could also be from humans with a less than ideal grasp of grammar. Traditionally bots are typically either attackers or harvesters - the former are malicious software designed to do just as the name says and attack a website, whether to bring it down or to seek out vulnerabilities so they can steal confidential data. Harvesters tend to be less malicious and again as the name suggests, their prime function is to harvest as much openly available information as they can from a website. All the search engines as well as the AI companies run harvester bots, the former to build their databases of what is out there on the internet so their search engines can work, the later to feed the ever hungry maws of their AI creations. AIs are a 3rd class of bots .. their function is to, well, replace humans. Not Terminator style (at least not yet), but in order to make money for their creators they have to expand their repertoire of things that would otherwise be done by humans, such as writing posts to forums at the behest of some lazy human.

For the record, this post is 100% human.

[Bridgy]

Hi all, i was thinking that no need for me to continue here in this Thread, however i have just been playing around with the new Smart Media Cutter 2.2.9 Editing Tool for 2 days to see how it has progressed, and to see if i can use it to Smart Cut my 4k/60p HEVC files properly so that i can use the cut portions in my VRD Pro for further processing, and to export to other formats if needed.

I gave up on LosslessCut as my new cutting tool because it only seems to work with VRD only if the cuts are made on Keyframes, so in reality i did not consider it to be Frame Accurate, but after extensive testing in SMC it has turned out to be so much better than LosslessCut and it now works beautifully with my 4k/60p HEVC files in version 2.2.9 (many thanks to the Developer for doing this so quickly after sending him some sample files to work with)

Is it as good as VRD for frame accurate cuts, it definitely seems to be, is it better, time will tell, will i really need to get rid of VRD Pro, not really, because i still need that to compile my edited videos (joining segments from SMC) and adding my custom Titles and Credits when needed, as well as export to other formats when needed.

In the free version of SMC, it does not seem to have an option to add Chapter Marks at each cut if using the tool to just Cut and Shut (join) a single file, where VRD has the option, and i need my chapter marks, so that feature might be available in the paid version, waiting to hear back from the developer.

I think that i will invest in a $40 lifetime license for SMC as the licensed version has features (similar to VRD) that i think i might be able to use moving forward, where as in VRD those options will remain the same because it is no longer being developed.

From what i can tell, i don't think that SMC will ever have a feature where it will export edited files to other formats like VRD can (Intelligent and Force Recode) so SMC will never replace VRD as an all round editing tool, but SMC certainly seems to be as good as VRD for almost everything else that i need.

For TV Broadcast stuff like what most of VRD users use it for, well i have no idea how SMC compares, i guess one would need to test it.

Cheers.

[Marayong]

It can't be too hard to add in the ability to export to different formats since there is open-source software that does just that which they could incorporate. Since you are in contact with the dev(s) it might be worth pointing that out and asking why not? For me, any software that doesn't include that ability isn't really worth looking at.

[Bridgy]

Yes i understand your point of view that it is good to have 1 single tool that does everything that you need, in your case VRD it fine, and because your use of VRD is more in line with TV Broadcast stuff like so many other VRD users.

For me and moving on to newer formats like i do, i need to look at other frame accurate cutting tools for my camera recorded files because VRD just doesn't do it the way that i like any more due to it not being developed and updated for the past 3.5 years.

I now find myself having to use SMC (in place of LosslessCut) and in version 2.2.9 it eats LosslessCut for this process, and VRD is there for everything else that i need, for me, having to open SMC to cut, then import to VRD to complete my editing is a non issue, but if SMC does ever introduce exporting to other formats then one might need to look at dumping VRD all together, as long as SMC does it as good and as easily as VRD does it.

The Paid version of SMC offers the ability to add multiple files for joining, including other file types, and will only recode the segments that do not conform to the format of the primary files, which VRD is able to do as well (in most cases at least)

VRD will always be part of my own kit of tools that much is clear already.

What i am now curious to find out is whether SMC can deal with TV broadcast files in the same way, or better than VRD can do it.

[iUKSystems]

Hi,
I have recently update my PC from Windows 10 to 11 (clean install). I had successfully used manual activation with my key I have for VideoReDo TVSuite. Expecting no problem, I visited the manual activation page (https://www.videoredo.online) and copy/paste my user token and system id. Now I get 'Error! Invalid system ID' in red letters every time. I have been extremely careful to enter the correct data.
I hope you can help, I would love to get this great software working again.

[Marayong]

The VRD activation module unfortunately has a timer built into it which the developer periodically reset. Since he is dead, the timer is no longer being reset.

All is not lost ... you need to set the computer system clock to say back 1 year (eg windows, not bios), activate VRD and then reset the clock. Details are given on the reddit VRD forum: https://www.reddit.com/r/videoredo/new/

[noemi7]

From what i can tell, i don't think that SMC will ever have a feature where it will export edited files to other formats like VRD can (Intelligent and Force Recode) so SMC will never replace VRD as an all round editing tool, but SMC certainly seems to be as good as VRD for almost everything else that i need.

SMC can export to other formats (containers). Just change file extension of the exported video to mkv, mov, mp4 or ts. The same can be done if you choose option to fully re-encode your video.

Have in mind that LosslessCut is no option for many of us as it doesn't handle Dolby codec - such audio has to be re-encoded.

[Bridgy]

@ noemi7

I am no longer discussing any other software options in this thread so if you wish for me to respond to your post, can you please post it over in the SMC thread in the link below.

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/415875-Smart-Media-Cutter/page3

I am being cautious here that my post will not be flagged as off topic by one of our over zealous forum members who seems intent of crapping me out if the thread strays off topic in any way, don't want to upset this guy any more than he is already, so from here i will not be talking any more about SMC or any other topic that has nothing to do with, or mentions anything about VRD.

[Diamant]

Hi.
Please help me. I have VRD TVS v.4 and v.5 bought and have licence keys. I reinstalled Windows and now i am not able to activate v.5, to which I am used to. I have entered user token and system ID, but I have recieved error Invalid system ID. What is wrong?

[Marayong]

Diamant,

Try here: https://www.reddit.com/r/videoredo/new/

You want the "How to use the manual activation site" & also "Workaround to activation issue" links pinned at the top.

VRD has a complicated licenced/activation process and part of that involves an internal clock counter. That expired in January this year. The only way to get VRD activated now is to follow the instructions pinned on the reddit page above and you will also need to reset your computer clock (windows, not bios!) back say one year, then do the activation process. VRD will activate, after which reset the clock back to the present time.

The above instructions will get VRD 5 and VRD 6 working. For VRD 4, the only option is to attempt to contact Dan Haddock and he may be able to get it activated for you. You can PM Dan via the VRD forum on Reddit. He hasn't posted there in many months, so I'm uncertain if he is still contactable that way .. but it's the only way I know of & he is the only one who can get a VRD4 licence activated.

[gjn]

I have been using Video Redo for several years and now I need to install it on a new computer. I'm sorry about the Author's demise. I did manage to download a version 6 but I can not figure out how to get any of the license or codes needed.

I do have my original ver.5 license number and system ID from the previous version but when I tried to use it with a manual activation site it doesn't work.

Can anyone help me get it working?

[gjn]

I also tried setting the computer time back to jan 1 2025 and that didn't seem to work.
I'm very confused.

The big problem is I can't find anything nearly as good as videoredo for my purposes.

[noemi7]

The big problem is I can't find anything nearly as good as videoredo for my purposes.

Smart Media Cutter is THE replacement.

[Marayong]

gjn, a VRD licence is only valid for a particular version. If you have a licence for v5, it will only work in v5.

You can get v5 from here: https://www.videohelp.com/software/VideoReDo/old-versions

If you cant get it working, post a help request to the reddit forum (https://www.reddit.com/r/videoredo), someone there might have further insight.

If all else fails, there are alternatives such as Lossless Cutter (free) and Smart Media Cutter (paid), however they are not replacements for VRD (yet) since they lack most of the features that VRD has. As the names suggest, they just cut out frames and, for now, that all they do. The developer of SMC has plans to add in additional features, but at this stage it is really just an embryonic project. If you use LC or SMC you'll need to use other software to do the other things that VRD does, l such as changing the codecs/format of a video, cropping/resizing frames etc etc etc.

[Bridgy]

Smart Media Cutter is Free but limited with it's features compared to the Lite and Personal licenses.

The Lite version is only US$20 but limited to 1 year of updates, which i would never buy because the Personal version is US$40 with lifetime of updates, and is very much worth the cost in my opinion given what it can do so far.

The big problem is I can't find anything nearly as good as videoredo for my purposes.

Smart Media Cutter is THE replacement.

Stop posting your stupid ill informed crap in here re SMC, it is not even close to VRD with it's current features, and will be a while before the Developer includes all of those features, and even then it will need a lot of testing to make it even close to VRD.

I am currently testing the SMC latest beta release for the Developer and offering feedback to him about how it is going, so far i am loving what he has put out so far, especially for my 4k HEVC editing, and there are reports that his work with TV broadcast material is also very good, and may well be on par with VRD, but i don't do tv stuff to test it out, i only repeat what i have been reading.

The Frame Accurate Cutting feature is great, as good as, or may even be better than VRD, but that is just my opinion.

VRD will be here for quite a while yet, and i dare say that most VRD users will just tick with it for their own TV broadcast stuff, for me i need to start looking at an alternative that i can use along with my VRD Pro until SMC has completed all of the features that VRD currently has.

If you have never tried or tested a particular software tool, then there is no place for those people to make comments about it in any way, shape, or form, and to our friend noemi7 i have my doubts about you ever having used VRD in your life, so you have no right to post ill informed comments like you do.

[Bridgy]

The big problem is I can't find anything nearly as good as videoredo for my purposes.

Can you tell us what you are using VRD for, is it tv broadcast like most VRD users, or are you editing camera recorded video files like i do, as both are very different to one another, where as VRD is still fine for tv broadcast users, but not so good now for people like me who is now recording in formats that VRD had not finished work on when Dan Rosen passed away.

If you are doing TV broadcast files then Smart Media Cutter might be an option as it does handle that stuff in one way, shape, or form.

[MozartMan]

I switched to TMPGEnc MPEG Smart Renderer 6 from VRD. Works great for my needs.

https://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tmsr6.html