Hello,
I have 3 PAL_B tapes that I m trying to rip that are giving me a headache
Different brands from obtained from different sources
I m using a TV+VCR device connected over S-Video to a ATI Wonder card 550 (will try and attach pictures)
The picture I see on the TV differs from what I see on the computer
everytime there is movement on the screen the picture on the PC gets distorted
sorts out during stills
I have tried:
- cleaning up the VCR using a tape
- using a different VCR
- using different software
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Please help
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What models VCRs have you used so far, Is any of them built in line TBC? TVs can handle video signal from tapes better than capture cards, So you would need a VCR built in TBC or a signal stabilizer in the capture chain.
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Time base correction needed (at least)
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Read few threads on this forum after I posted this one.
Came to the same conclusion. TBC for a start.
Great source of info. Thank you.
I thought forums were a thing of the past.
problem is VCRs with TBC run for about 250 euro and there are not many of them for sale.
I m better off sending the tapes to people that do this professionally.
dellsam34 your avatar came up during the research of the software alternative
I m gonna give VHS-Decode a try tomorrow.
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Finding a working TBC is difficult if it is available how do we know if it's the right one?
The black AVT tools 8710 has lots of negative forum posts.
The green AVT tools 8710 haa lots of positive forum posts.
The Datavideo 1000 TBC has mixed reviews
The Datavideo 3000 TBC has positive reviews but I'm sure you've mentioned something about changes in production.
The Datavideo 4000 TBC has positive reviews but it's hard to find.
The Datavideo 6000 TBC has positive reviews but its hard to find.
The Datavideo 7000 TBC has positive reviews but its hard to find.
The Datavideo 4000 , 6000 and 7000 are classed as professional TBC'S but the 1000 and 3000 are not what's the difference between them?
I'm sure I've read a post from you saying they are TBC100 PCI cards inside them all, only the TBC 7000 having a chroma key function like the DVK100 and DVK200 chromakey.
The Kramer FC400 is also another recommend one but it's hard to find but you said in your post that Kramer is weaker than the AVT tools and Datavideo. Nobody knows what to buy we keep being told what not to buy and not go on ebay.
Would it not be better to just use a Panasonic DVD recorder as pass through because it's cheaper?
Will it work like a TBC if the VCR has a TBC? -
Would it not be better to just use a Panasonic DVD recorder as pass through because it's cheaper?
Will it work like a TBC if the VCR has a TBC? -
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[QUOTE=Alwyn;2750210]
Yes. Here's what they do. A minor problem is that in some situations, they overboost the whites at bit. Adjust your proc amp brightness/contrast a bit (you should be checking/adjusting B and C anyway [\QUOTE]
Yes, I always adjust B and C since i started using graphstudio.
Thanks to you for helping me set it up.
Yes because they conflict with eachother but others say it can cause side effects like polarization compression in the color palette -
This really isn't true. For example, I have two refurb'd TBCs available for sale at this very moment, and I ship worldwide.
What people often mean is that they can't find a TBC for the price of a cheeseburger, because they have odd notions (and based on nothing) about what quality AV/photo gear costs. If that's you, then correct, no TBCs exist.Want my help? Ask here! (not via PM!)
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What TBC?
What price?
Nobody is wanting to buy a TBC for the price of a cheese burger, that comparison is rather unfair, unless a cheese burger costs more than $400 dollars, nobody will be paying a silly amount like $2k for a handful of home movies only but if the thread opener has 1000 VHS movies and he wants to do it himself then he can buy one.
It's quite a risk to buy a TBC in 2024 they are 20 years old used and abused.
I don't know how many tapes the thread opener has to convert, if it's only 1 or 2 I would just send the tapes to shop or the opener can try using a DVD recorder as pass through doing it himself. -
AVT TOOLS
Green sold for the price of a "cheeseburger"
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You speak only for yourself here, so you = nobody?
It's quite a risk to buy a TBC in 2024 they are 20 years old used and abused.
I don't know how many tapes the thread opener has to convert, if it's only 1 or 2 I would just send the tapes to shop or the opener can try using a DVD recorder as pass through doing it himself.
You apparently don't know how eBay's "best offer" works.
- For that AVT-8710, eBay sold listing says "Best offer accepted".
- The starting auction list price was for $150.
- It could have sold for $1000 or more, and probably did.
- And yet, eBay will end the listing with $150 shown as the "sale" price for auctions. The number is crossed out for fixed-price listings.
eBay also does not show returns, and which there are many for AV gear (because many of the sellers are liars and idiots). That seller put "Sold As IS with no returns", but the text is meaningless. That seller is a verified idiot from that alone. In most cases, it means the person has no idea if it even turns on, and is a month+ long eBay nightmare waiting to happen.Last edited by lordsmurf; 12th Sep 2024 at 00:57.
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I will start with I'm not sure what I'm posting has much relevance to this topic.
It has been a long time since I converted a VHS tape to anything.
I have very few left as I disposed of most.
At one time I had a RCA camcorder that used VHS tapes.
A bulky unit to say the least. No firewire out or in on it.
I no longer have a SVHS player/recorder the one i had failed many years ago.
What I do have is:
INSIGNIA NS-DRVCR DVD Recorder/VCR
With COMPONENT VIDEO OUT & S-VIDEO OUT
Poloroid DVD Recorder with 80GB Hard Drive DRM-2001G
Component videos input
Component videos output (Y, Pr/Cr, Pb/Cb)
S-video input
If a VHS has MacroVision I have a Dimax Grex.
I write the copy to a DVD.
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Most people 95 percent would not pay that kind of money.
If TBCS were in demand they would still be available today or some Chinese company would have made a clone by now like they have with the easycap capture cards, Amazon, ebay is flooded with them.
TVone USA were selling AVT tools its the clone of CTB100, the CTB100 was sold to many companies, in UK Europe companies were selling these as unbranded, Cypress distributors Letropack were distributing it themselves.
An Australian company called global video pro still have old AVT tools composite version only in stock (own brand cypress clones)
Datavideo stopped selling TBCS in 2015, the last model was the TBC5000 I think that is still available overseas, Datavideo has many branches and third party distributors worldwide. Datavideo Netherlands distributed all over Europe, it's a dead market that not many people are buying into because most people have finished VHS capture people that are doing it now don't have that much technical knowledge or did not know what waa needed for a good capture at the time
It's worth the risk if cheap.$200 $300 because ebay let you return the item if hss issues
Not many other options are available or at least not cheep, private sellers are selling online but because of many fourms that rant and rave about how great the AVT tools green one is or the Datavideo ones are they go for a lot of money.
Then why not just send it to a reputable shop that does this buying something for $2000 for one tape is not very wise even if I was going to sell it on how do I know I'm going to make that money back?
I'm not sure how much it went for it could have been $400 but someone bought a TBC from ebay took the risk when you keep advising against it, could it be because you have a conflict of interest in this?
ebay seller sells the AVT tools 8710.green say for $1000 and Lordsmurff sells the same TBC for $2000, obviously the buyer will go with the cheaper option, this is why you often come up with caveats oh don't buy TBC 1000 from ebay faulty caps ebay sellers lie about replacing them buy from me. Don't buy the TBC 3000 it has had changes to production only I know what to lookout for when it comes to TBC 3000, the ebay ones are all bad you will be waiting your money.Last edited by VHSvideocapture; 15th Sep 2024 at 10:19.
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Just 9 months ago, you were a total video capture newbie.
Evidence: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/412708-Capturing-VHS-different-methods#post2716093
And now you think you know it all?
You don't know what you don't know, and the more you post the more obvious it becomes.
Most people 95 percent would not pay that kind of money.
If TBCS were in demand they would still be available today
or some Chinese company would have made a clone by now like they have with the easycap capture cards, Amazon, ebay is flooded with them.
An Australian company called global video pro still have old AVT tools composite version only in stock (own brand cypress clones)
it's a dead market that not many people are buying into because most people have finished VHS capture
people that are doing it now don't have that much technical knowledge or did not know what waa needed for a good capture at the time
It's worth the risk if cheap.$200 $300
because ebay let you return the item if hss issues
Not many other options are available or at least not cheep, private sellers are selling online but because of many fourms that rant and rave about how great the AVT tools green one is or the Datavideo ones are they go for a lot of money.
Then why not just send it to a reputable shop that does this buying something for $2000 for one tape is not very wise
even if I was going to sell it on how do I know I'm going to make that money back?
I'm not sure how much it went for
it could have been $400 but someone bought a TBC from ebay took the risk when you keep advising against it, could it be because you have a conflict of interest in this?
- Or how almost all the units are now sold by "flippers" that don't know a TBC from a toaster, often lying about the condition or functionality.
- And having repeatedly been approached by gear buyers who got screwed there. (Many choose to PM, too embarrassed to post their mistake in public.)
FYI, the reason that I started to refurb gear for others (and yes, sell it to them, it ain't free), is precisely because I started to see how pitiful eBay had become for acquiring gear. Literally 80%+ of all VCRs there are now trash, most TBCs are botched in some way (flawed chips, failed DIY repairs, incomplete, etc), and the capture cards are jumbled up without boxes/docs (ie, versions).
ebay seller sells the AVT tools 8710.green say for $1000 and Lordsmurff sells the same TBC for $2000, obviously the buyer will go with the cheaper option,
oh don't buy TBC 1000 from ebay faulty caps
ebay sellers lie
Don't buy the TBC 3000 it has had changes to production
only I know what to lookout for when it comes to TBC 3000, the ebay ones are all bad you will be waiting your money.
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