Recording Vinyl to WAV/MP3

[SE14man]

I have an old bush turntable which only cost about 20 pounds.
I record my vinyls to mp3 but i find with a lot of my rips they dont have enough bass and dont sound clear enough therefore some come out fine.
I was wondering if a turntable like a numark or stanton would be better at handling most types of vinyl and would be a better choice to go for?
I dont want to go spending all my money on a turntable to find out its not the turntable anyway.
I dont know if its a mixer.
Heres a link of the turntable i use to rip:
http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/bu/bush-mtt1-silver.jpg

Cheers people!

[pijetro]

Are you capturing to .WAV, and then compressing to .MP3??
What kind of sample rate and bitrate do you assign to your .MP3's?
Are you running through an amplifier?
Your turntable should be fine.

[SE14man]

Straight to mp3.
VBR @ highest quality.
44 hz or something i think for the rate maybe.
Running through that home mix cd mixer.
Plugged cables from turntable into input on mixer.
Then from outpuit on mixer to line in on PC.

Some rips sound fine some dont and its baffling..

[racingintherain]

Does your mixer have a phono preamplifier built-in to it? If you're just going straight into line level jacks, you're not getting proper phono equalization curve. Otherwise, can't think of what the problem could be.

[tlegion]

I recommend that you capture to a low (or no) compression wav format, then encode as a separate step. That way, if the mp3 encoding is unsatisfactory, you can change the settings without having to re-play the vinyl.

I also recommend that unless your turntable requires a phono input, you connect the turntable directly to the line-in on the PC.

[racingintherain]

Just looked at the specs on your turntable and see it has built-in phono-preamp, so that's no the problem.

[steveryan]

Invest in a decent record player. Buy a Rega Planar 2 or 3 from Ebay, convert your vinyl then sell the record player, you won't lose much, if any, money.

[MOVIEGEEK]

It could be your soundcard/drivers,make sure you have the latest drivers or buy a new soundcard.
I recommend using CDWave for recording analog:
www.milosoftware.com/cdwave/

[SE14man]

so the best option is to have one that just plugs direct into the pc then with no mixer involved?
Do they sell these?
Can i have a uk link.

Btw thanks 4 yr help everyone!!

[SE14man]

Can someomne who rips vinyl please advise me for the best equipment needed please and what they use?
I have a realtek AC'97 soundcard.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Here's how I record LP's:
1.Connect turntable to receiver(make sure ground wire is used).
2.Connect line-out on receiver to line-in on soundcard.
3.Use CDWave to record WAV.
Note:if the LP's sound fine on your stereo then I would say the problem is your soundcard or latency:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/PCI_Latency_Tool/1105467085/1

[SE14man]

thanks 4 the help.
if i dont use groundwire what cld happen?

[ktnwin]

If you don't connect the ground wire, you will have background humming noise in the recorded audio.

[SingSing]

Straight to mp3.
VBR @ highest quality.
44 hz or something i think for the rate maybe.
Running through that home mix cd mixer.
Plugged cables from turntable into input on mixer.
Then from outpuit on mixer to line in on PC.

Some rips sound fine some dont and its baffling..

You cannot record from the turntable/phono cartridge output, it has a specific frequency response, known as RIAA. You need to put it thru a phono pre-amp or receiver,let the signal processed then record from the tape output.

Vinyl record are non-digital !

[sdlehman]

I record the vinyl to a Philips CD recorder through my receiver. Then I rip that to a wave file and then clean up, eq, etc with Sound Forge. Then I compress to mp3.

Stace

[dwill123]

This is my setup for recording vinyl to my PC. My turntable is a Music Hall mmf-5. My soundcard is a TerraTec Aureon 7.1 Universe. The Aureon 7.1 has a built-in pre-amp so I plug the mmf-5 directly into the soundcard. I use Sound Forge 7 - 8 is the current version as my recording and editing software. There's very little (audio wise) that you can't do using Sound Forge. I'm very satisfied with my results.

[SingSing]

Vinyl records are mastered with the high frequency suppressed. So, the playback has to boost back the high frequency. The graph below show both of them. This is normally done with Resistors and Capacitors filters. Actually, we should be able to do this in digital filters too.

[Friedo]

Check this: TerraTec PhonoPreAmp iVinyl

This is an audio capture device that automatically reverses RIAA equalization (as shown in the diagram above).

Please don't understand as an advertisement. I just believe devices like this are hard to find in the web.

[lacywest]

Audiograbber 1.8 ... is the program I use to capture audio that is sent to my ... sound card.

When I was still buying vinyl records ... last one I bought was around 1987 - 1988

Jennifer Rush ... The Power of Love ... [nice album]

.... anyways ... make sure you do not have the audio volume very loud. Keep the volume low while recording to another medium. When I bought the Jennifer Rush album I recorded it to VHS Hi Fi ... video tape. I used a Fisher HI-FI VCR.

The reason of not having the volume up is because of the feedback ... called RUMBLE.

As your playing the music the sound coming from the speakers can create vibrations and cause the needle to pick it up and send it back out thru the speakers ... the speakers can create more vibrations and cause the needle to pick it up and send it back out thru the speakers ... the speakers can create louder vibrations and cause the needle to pick it up and send it back out thru the speakers ... and so forth.

So hold off playing it loud until you've transferred it to a digital format.

[lacywest]

To find out if you have a feedback ... Rumble problem ... lay the tone arm / cartridge needle on the record ... without the turntable spinning.

Back in my days ... I used Dual Record changers ... the 1218 and so forth ... I could lay my tone arm / cartridge needle on the record and then turn up the volume. Usually at some spot very very loud ... like at 2 O'Clock or higher ... a very loud ... WAH WAH WAH sound could or would start kicking in.

I then transferred my music to cassette tapes. lol

[KBeee]

so the best option is to have one that just plugs direct into the pc then with no mixer involved?
Do they sell these?
Can i have a uk link.

Btw thanks 4 yr help everyone!!

Yours has a built in phono stage. You can plug it directly into your sound card

[olyteddy]

Vinyl records are mastered with the high frequency suppressed. So, the playback has to boost back the high frequency. The graph below show both of them. This is normally done with Resistors and Capacitors filters. Actually, we should be able to do this in digital filters too.

Actually, the reverse is true. Bass is suppressed in recording, for among other reasons, to prevent the groove from breaking down by having the stylus move too much. Highs are reduced on playback. If you just plug your phono cartridge into your Mic input you will hear very little bass. Your diagram correctly shows that.