Can't perform A-D Passthru on Canon and have record to tape

[dell400sc]

Hey gang,

Alright, I have a Canon Elura 80 and when I enable the passthru function and hook up my Sony 8mm via RCA analog inputs all seems to work well without a tape in the Canon, then when I hook up the Canon via firewire and try to use Sony Vegas 5 to capture it won't capture unless I put a tape in the Canon. Then when I instert the tape it only captures what's on the dv tape and ignores the analog 8mm footage.

The only way I've found to make this work is to actually record the 8mm footage to a dv tape and then upload to the computer via firewire dv-avi.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Lex

[junkmalle]

My Canon Optura Pi doesn't have passthru either.

[Richard_G]

Don't know about Canon, but Sony has a menu item for AV-DV which has to be set to on. If it is left off they do exactly as your Canon camcorders are doing.

[The_Doman]

Just try other software which does not start the tape while capturing from your camera.
WinDV maybe?

I use Scenalyzer which has an option to disable the tape transport function of the DV device/camera while capturing.
Maybe there are options for that too in Vegas?

[ozymango]

Just try other software which does not start the tape while capturing from your camera.
WinDV maybe?

My recommendation also. I've got a (borrowed) JVC camcorder w/pass through that works great (have to remove tape to make it pass through) and when I tried to capture using (I think) Ulead, the controls were greyed out (in the capture control panel). But I am able to capture using WinDV. So definitely give it a try!

[edDV]

Hey gang,

Alright, I have a Canon Elura 80 and when I enable the passthru function and hook up my Sony 8mm via RCA analog inputs all seems to work well without a tape in the Canon, then when I hook up the Canon via firewire and try to use Sony Vegas 5 to capture it won't capture unless I put a tape in the Canon. Then when I instert the tape it only captures what's on the dv tape and ignores the analog 8mm footage.

The only way I've found to make this work is to actually record the 8mm footage to a dv tape and then upload to the computer via firewire dv-avi.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Lex

With Vegas (and other programs), in order to use passthru you need to first turn off device control in the Preferences. Pass through can only be done with manual control from that analog playback device and manually hitting record and stop in Vegas capture.

[mstone321]

Let's not leave out DVIO from this discussion.

Matt

[dell400sc]

Wow! Thanks for all the great replies. I know that WinDV doesn't work on my system...don't know why, but it just bombs out.

Now I have all the video from the 8mm recorded to DV tape and I've uploaded that via firewire already and I'm was just about ready to fire up TMPGEnc when I decided to gander at my post.

So now, my question would be is it worth trying to figure out the passthru with device control turned off...will it produce better quality?

Thanks,
Lex

[junkmalle]

Now I have all the video from the 8mm recorded to DV tape and I've uploaded that via firewire already and I'm was just about ready to fire up TMPGEnc when I decided to gander at my post.

So now, my question would be is it worth trying to figure out the passthru with device control turned off...will it produce better quality?

Quality will be exactly the same -- unless there is a defect in your tape which prevents it from being read properly.

[edDV]

How did you upload with firewire? Do you mean by recording to DV tape first? If so, quality will be the same.

Pass through always requires manual control of the analog source and "device control off" on the capture program..

[dell400sc]

Alright,

Great...whew...spent too much time recording to my mini-dv today.

I recorded 8mm footage via RCA (yellow, red, white) to my Canon Elura 80 dv tape, and then from my Canon via Firewire to computer using vegas 5.

It's encoding now...time to go to bed.

Lex

[guns1inger]

Did you try direct pass-through by turning off device control ? That's how I work as it take half the time (no intermediate recording to tape required).

[dell400sc]

guns1inger,

Not yet, but since my firt attempt to record to dv tape is alreading encoding and users say there shouldn't be quality loss, I'll wait for the encoding to stop and give it a try. I will do it this way from now on.

Thanks,
Lex