Wall-E DVD backup

[foofighter1]

I am having real problems with this one guys.

I have tried the combo of AnyDVD 6.4.7.9 as well as CloneDVD and i keep getting redudancy errors. I also tryed the ripper and had a VOB SET error in VTS _5_01.VOB

Has anyone else had problems w/ this guy?

[musr139]

try the DVDFabHD Decrypt.
That should work!

[Supreme2k]

You're late. The release date was Tuesday.

[Noahtuck]

You're late. The release date was Tuesday.

I was thinking something along those lines when i read the title of the thread

[ladyb1998]

from slysoft forum the newest version 6485 works. your version doesn't work on wall-e

[HemLok]

< delete me >

[Baldrick]

And turn on automatic updates in anydvd and you will be reminded when a new version is ready. Or use our alert me-function when a new version is available, https://www.videohelp.com/toolsedit?notify=294

[bigpoppa94]

Guys, I was able to rip and burn Wall-e, but....
It's burning everything out of order. I/m not a pro at this, but i got a burn error at the end so i throttled the burn rate down from 8x to 5.2x and it burned the backup, but it burned all the vobs or what have u out of sequence. i got the beginning in the middle, the end at the beginning and some of the movie wasn't even there. i was watching the original while skipping through the backup to check everything. i searched all the forums but no one hasseemed to have had this problem. if anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Also, my burner isn't recognizing my dual layer discs - seeing them as CD's. My burner is a Lite-on LH-20A1S. Anyone have any ideas on this one?

Here's what i use to burn(and for those that say the programs are not up to date, well i can rip and burn with no problems-except this one of course)

RipIt4Me
ImgBurn
DVD Decrypter
DVD Shirnk 3.2

[handyguy]

It's been answered above, try the DVDFabHD Decrypt. . Dvd shrink is way out of date, no longer supported & no longer can do the new copy protections....

[fritzi93]

In the change log of the latest DVDFabHDDecrypter (v. 5.1.2.0), there is reference to a crash problem with Wall-E, fixed in the latest version.

I got the DVD this morning and was able to rip full disc with v. 4.1.2.0, although it ran the analysis several times first. I'll have to check the structure of the full disc, but DVDShrink successfully processed a movie only backup from the Fab rip. [shrugs]

[HmNtr]

I bought a copy this evening for my kids, and when I got home the kids were asleep, so I thought I would rip a copy before they got ahold of the original and trashed it too much for me to save it.

LMAO, I tried DVD-D, froze at 2%, and kept getting a weird I/O Error...

Tried Shrink just to see if it would work, no luck there either; the disc would spin down and not move for shrink at about the same place as it would die on DVD-D.

Went to go open Safari and realized when I hit my quick launch that I had a copy of DVD Fab that I had bought recently but had not tried. So, I decided to open that while I search on here to see what others had to say about Wall-E while it was backing up, and it seems that a lot of other people had been having the same problem as I had...now I don't feel so old and dense...heh heh heh...

HmNtr

[fritzi93]

Structure of full disc rip of WALL-E from DVDFabHDDecrypter is okay. Upgraded to the latest version and ran it again, same result.

Out of curiosity, I turned on DVD43 and opened the disc in VobBlanker v.2.1.2.0. (Later versions will not allow this). It took about 2 hrs to process, and the output was 59.8 GB. The output plays correctly on the computer.

The VobBlanker log was interesting, but very long. (I saved it if anyone's interested). VTS_01, and 03 through 14 each have an unreferenced cell in the middle of a VOB, and numerous discontinuity flags. VTS_02 also had discontinuity flags.

DVDShrink 3.2 opened the VobBlanker output without complaint, but reported 59.8 GB. Reauthoring main movie shows 96 titles, each over 0.5 GB. Same for DVDShrink 2.3.

Didn't try anything else, since I can't at the moment think of a way (besides DVDFabHDDecrypter) likely to work except AnyDVD, but I don't have that. (I suppose the VobBlanker output could be processed further, but I've deleted it.)

[EDIT] Evidently my test above with DVD43/VobBlanker resulted in duplication of the main movie titleset. RipIt4Me will rip main movie, but as noted above, chapters are scrambled.

So you're left with, as noted very early in this thread: DVDFabHDDecrypter or DVDFab. And AnyDVD, latest version.

[bunginuts]

I ripped it with the latest DVDFab Decrypter and then did a full backup with dvdshrink and it played flawlessly on my PS3, DVD player and pc. It honestly appears to be the process/programs you're using. Heck could be your dvd player depending on the date or even the type of blank disc.

[HmNtr]

eh, I was broke the last time I bought discs, so I purchased FUJI FILM + and - R discs. I have had no problem with the discs themselves, just the ripping process of WALL*E has been a nut...

Tried to burn it last night after I ripped the copy, and I get the same weird I/O error when I try to burn with ImgBurn as I did when I tried to rip it with DVD-D....strange...wonder if this is one of the newer copy protection schemes...

EDIT: I wonder...has anyone tried using DVD2SVCD on this? I always had luck with that program, and it would rip darn near anything, expecially in BATCH PREPARE mode...I have not used it to do a DVD2DVD backup, but I think I am going to give it a whirl and see what happens...

And hey, just out of curiosity, years ago people used to send movies over the net in .BIN/.CUE file formats...does anyone know what program they had used to make the movies into .BIN/.CUEs? Maybe we should try that...lol....

[HmNtr]

ok, got the work around that worked for me...used DVD Fab Platinum to rip to DVD9, used DVD Shrink to get rid of all the unnecessary junk, shrank it to DVD5, burn with ImgBurn, rock and roll!

[jimdagys]

I have an older DVD player that will stutter and freeze with some newer DVDs. I find that using the latest DVDFab Platinum, rip and burn to re-burnable DVD is a quicky way that will always play OK in my DVD player. I think DVDFab Platinum
should be included on all DVD releases so that people with older DVD players can watch these movies.

[dauk]

I'm just using DVD Shrink 3.2. I re-authored and included title1. It appears that all the other titles (75 of them??!) are redundant. It's ripping now so I'm curious if there will be a surprise.. but the file size looks appropriate. ~4GB. Analyzing it took a long time in the beginning and said the file was going to be 30GB before re-authoring. The running time for the reauthored portion is exactly the same as the DVD case says it should be (98mins)...so I expect that it will work fine...


<edit>
I stand corrected. It's all out of order...just as previous posts stated
<dauk mumbles something about "trixy hobbits" and sulks off into the darkness>
</edit>

[HmNtr]

try ripping it the same way that I did, see if that works for you... DVD Fab Platinum to rip to DVD9, used DVD Shrink to get rid of all the unnecessary junk, shrank it to DVD5, burn with ImgBurn...sometimes you just need to rip to the highest size then move on to shrinking it to fit onto a single layer disc, that will make it so that the files are not out of order...

[dauk]

Roger that, HmNtr.
I'll try that instead

Thanks!

[RLT69]

Use latest released version of AnyDVD and CloneDVD. Works like a charm

[HmNtr]

I sometimes think it matters which operating system you are using AnyDVD on, because most times it is tempermental on my laptop (running vista) but works like a charm on my Win2K Pro machine...who knows, maybe it is just systems configuration and drive manufacturer...

[picrade]

I used DVDFab HD Decrypter to rip the main movie.
Although it made a playable copy it dropped four legitimate cells from the movie.
These cells were less than 2 seconds in duration. Maybe it confused these tiny cells
with copy protection cells and dropped them.
As a result there is a slight skipping at those points in the movie.

AnyDVD on the other hand ripped the DVD without dropping those cells.

[fritzi93]

I used DVDFab HD Decrypter to rip the main movie.
Although it made a playable copy it dropped four legitimate cells from the movie.
These cells were less than 2 seconds in duration. Maybe it confused these tiny cells
with copy protection cells and dropped them.
As a result there is a slight skipping at those points in the movie.

AnyDVD on the other hand ripped the DVD without dropping those cells.

Interesting. Are you certain? DVDFabHDDecrypter usually makes a playable copy, but yes, sometimes it damages the structure. I habitually do a full disc rip, run FixVTS on it and reauthor main movie in DVDShrink. If DVDShrink will accept the files, they're probably okay, as Shrink is picky about structure.

For instance, I just did some processing on Prince Caspian, intending to downmix the audio to 2/0 and replace it before running DVDRB. PgcDemux said there was no audio delay, but, sure enough, I had to re-sync the audio with DelayCut by +3000ms before remuxing with MuxMan. As a test, I tried ReJig as well, but it choked. TDA complained but accepted the streams, but I had to revert to the no-delay downmixed stream. Strange.

[chrisf]

Any ideas on how to handle Wall-E on a Mac - I tried MacTheRipper but saw the 59G disc size and complaint not enough disk space. Seems from the above there are a couple of tools that work (ANyDVD or DVDFab) but any similar working ones for OSX

[HmNtr]

sorry chrisf, I don't have any idea about that one...last time I used a MAC was on the Apple II-C...lol...now if you were running yellow dog, maybe...sorry about that...have you checked the apple tools section on this site? https://www.videohelp.com/tools/sections/macos-video-tools

Maybe Mac The Ripper or OSEx (edit: http://mac.majorgeeks.com/download5305.html) or DVDRemaster? I have a friend who swears by OSEx and another who swears by Handbrake (he is running Ubuntu Linux though)...I guess it is all just personal experience and preference...try them both out and see which will work for you, that is the best advice that I can offer...

HmNtr

[lacywest]

I used AnyDVD [might be updated] and CloneDVD2 ... to rip what I wanted to keep.

I then used DVD Rebuilder Pro ... to shrink it to fit on DVD5 ... I used CloneDVD2 to burn it to a DVD5.

[picrade]

Yes, I am certain. This happened in my case.
I am curious to see if others can cofirm this.
My DVD is R1 NTSC, single disc edition (not the three disc edition), and I ripped in main movie mode.

These cells were missing in the ripped copy: 28, 52, 100, 120
Note that the cell numbers refer to those on the original DVD.
Because some copy protection cells are dropped (legitimately) the cell numbers will be different in the ripped copy.
These cells are all under 2 seconds.

As for structure, you can drop any cell in the PGC and then re-adjust the pointers and the structure will be valid.
It is just that you no longer see the dropped cells.

The structure of the DVD ripped by DVDFab is correct. It just dropped four legitimate cells.
As I said earlier it might have confused those cells with copy protection cells.
If this is confirmed then it is a serious bug.

[hech54]

I also have the single disc NTSC Region 1 version of Wall-E....
I used DVDFabDecrypter to rip the entire disc to my HDD....then used DVDShrink to pick the stuff I wanted(movie, deleted scenes and the "short")....then transcoded with DVDShrink to create a perfect DVD-5 backup for my son.
Not a single problem.

[fritzi93]

My method is similar to that used by Hech54, full disc mode (always!) with DVDFabHDDecrypter, as I don't quite trust it to do movie mode correctly. Then FixVTS, followed by DVDShrink and/or VobBlanker to process it, and DVDRB to re-encode if necessary.

[bbanderic]

I also have the single disc NTSC Region 1 version of Wall-E....
I used DVDFabDecrypter to rip the entire disc to my HDD....then used DVDShrink to pick the stuff I wanted(movie, deleted scenes and the "short")....then transcoded with DVDShrink to create a perfect DVD-5 backup for my son.
Not a single problem.

I used similar method as hech54:

DVDfab Decrypter (full disc) > hard drive > DVD Shrink (re-author - main movie only) > DVD-5

No FixVTS needed for me...disc played back perfectly and looked fantastic.