TMPGenc and Nero Encoding Problems...GEEZ :

[comet_104]

Hey Ya'll

1. Nero Problemo: I was reading in another Post where the girl was having the same problem as me.

A. Whenever I tell it to write Nero encodes the AVI file that I'm trying to convert to vcd format but the file is saved as an image.nrg file. My question is this..is there a way to get Nero to encode an AVI file to MPEG1 format?


2. TMPGenc Problemo: I actually got one avi file encoded to VCD, but the quality was poor.

A. Now whenever I try to encode a file with TMPGenc I get the "Decimal Point Floatation Error". So, to fix this I run it through the AVI filter with the Virtual Dub program that I have. Then whenever I try to re-encode the fixed AVI file with TMPGenc again, after a while I get this message that the file has been damaged.

IS THERE A NEWBIE GUY FOR STUPID NEWBIES LIKE MYSELF THAT WILL HELP ME THROUGH THIS? I'VE BEEN USING THE AVI TO VCD GUIDE ON THIS WEBSITE?

Also, can somebody pleaseeeee give me some tips on how to fix this stuff? geezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Thanks,

Comet

[wee haggis]

Hey Ya'll

1. Nero Problemo: I was reading in another Post where the girl was having the same problem as me.

A. Whenever I tell it to write Nero encodes the AVI file that I'm trying to convert to vcd format but the file is saved as an image.nrg file. My question is this..is there a way to get Nero to encode an AVI file to MPEG1 format?


2. TMPGenc Problemo: I actually got one avi file encoded to VCD, but the quality was poor.

A. Now whenever I try to encode a file with TMPGenc I get the "Decimal Point Floatation Error". So, to fix this I run it through the AVI filter with the Virtual Dub program that I have. Then whenever I try to re-encode the fixed AVI file with TMPGenc again, after a while I get this message that the file has been damaged.

IS THERE A NEWBIE GUY FOR STUPID NEWBIES LIKE MYSELF THAT WILL HELP ME THROUGH THIS? I'VE BEEN USING THE AVI TO VCD GUIDE ON THIS WEBSITE?

Also, can somebody pleaseeeee give me some tips on how to fix this stuff? geezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Thanks,

Comet

First of all do NOT use Nero to encode.Use TMPGE.
If you suspect corrupted bad frames then download this version of Virtualdub:
(scroll down to the version named "mp3_freeze")
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/virtualdub.html

Open your movie in this Virtualdub then >
Video >
Check for video freezes.

This may take a while but...when completed ,it will tell you at the end if it has found bad frames.If you want to remove these frames.... again use Virtualdub as follows:
open movie >
Edit >
Go To >
Type in frame number where bad frames started >
ok >
Edit >
Move to previous key frame >
Edit >
Set selection start >
Edit >
Go To >
type in frame number where bad frames end >
ok >
Edit >
Move to next key frame >
Edit >
Set selection end >
Edit >
delete frames >
Video >
direct stream copy >
Audio >
Direct stream copy >
File >
Save as AVI.

Now use the newly created AVI and extract the audio and save it as a WAV.
Virtualdub >
Open movie >
Audio >
Full processing mode >
Conversion >
44100 if VCD >
Audio >
Compression >
No Compression PCM >
File >
Save WAV.

Now open TMPGE to encode.
Open your movie and then click on Audio Source and change it to the WAV you just made.
And thats it.

[comet_104]

Thank You so much for your reply. I will try that.

But...ONE MORE QUESTION?...HOW COME YOU CAN'T USE NERO FOR THE ENCODING? I THOUGHT NERO ALSO DID THIS?????

TONYA

[MOVIEGEEK]

You can use Nero but TMPGEnc lets you customize your video to
get better results.

[comet_104]

Okay..then..Since so far I've gotten some really good feedback from some nice souls..SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS ISSUE WITH NERO:

Whenever I load the avi file into nero and go to start encoding it...it encodes the file as an image.nrg file?..Why does it do that? but most of all....How do I get it to encode the AVI file to an MPEG1 File for a VCD? I know that it does that.

Another question? Whenever it's actually encoding an AVI File to MPEG1 or MPEG2 format does it actually burn the image to your cd in the same step?

The Nero website doesn't give much information about this. If anyone else knows something that I can read to answer my questions about Nero I'll gladly read it. I just haven't found much out there.

Thanks,

Tonya

[banjazzer]

You can use Nero to encode, but it is not very good at it. It is an excellent burner, but poor encoder.

Next, I think you need to spend a little time with Nero's help file. To start with, I would check out "Creating an Image File", "Video CD" and "Super Video CD".

[comet_104]

Hey:

Thanks so much for the reply. I've glanced at the creating an image file. The SVCD file says that you have to buy their wretched MPEG2 Codec so I bypassed that. So, inevitably I followed the very poorly written instructions about creating a VCD in the VCD file. I followed it just like the instructions said and had nothing but the problems that I've described. I just can't figure out why it wants to save the file as an nrg file (whatever that is) instead of an mpg1 file. Maybe I don't have the codec for it. I don't know.

Tonya :P

[alienworkshop]

comet, to get your .avi to mpeg1 just use tmpeg to do this. all you have to do is load the video part in tmpeg, then hit load on the bottom right, pick the video cd (ntsc) template which should be in the same folder as your tmpeg under the template folder. although you can use the other templates, i'm guessing you probably want to use that one. then go to settings, and set the motion search precision to "highest quality" setting, then press ok. then hit start. when this finishes, burn the mpeg file in nero using the vcd option. and this should work.

[comet_104]

Hey Alienworkshop:

Thanks for your reply...I get the distinct impression that TMPGenc is much better than Nero...I am just trying to figure out what the problem is with Nero..just because I want to resolve it.

Tonya

[Craig Tucker]

If you are creating an image file rather than burning to disc you probrably have virtual device selected as your recorder. Click on recorder->choose recorder, you should see virtual device and your burner. Select your burner. You should now be able to burn to disc. By the way I agree with the statements of many posters in this thread, nero is a good authoring/burning program but a poor encoder, use TMPGEnc to encode your AVI's to MPEG's

[mats.hogberg]

Right, don't use Nero for anything besides burning. For those who don't understand how to create a MPEG suitable for VCD, Nero can encode AVIs to MPEG and use that as source for creating the VCD image (.nrg), but it doesn't do a very good job, and was never intended as an MPEG encoder.
I'd recommend (VirtualDub +) TMPGEnc + VCDEasy for encoding/authoring, and at the most let Nero burn the cue/bin that VCDEasy produces, if CDRDAO wont work with your system. This combination of free software allows you to optimize your process to your needs, be it quality, size, ...

/Mats

[comet_104]

Hey:

Thanks Craig. I got some really good feedback in this post. I'll experiment around with Nero again...it's just that it seems I remember somewhere the recorder being set to my cd burner...the thing about it is...a few months ago I changed out my mitsumi drive and put an hp cd-r in it. I'm wondering if that's the problem. Under recorder the choice is the mitsumi drive. I haven't had any problems with my cd burner working when trying to make data cds.

I still don't get why it trys to save the avi file to an image.nrg file. How do I get it to save it to a mpg1 file?

Tonya

[Craig Tucker]

What are you trying to do ? Are you trying to create an mpeg1 file on your hard drive, or are you trying to burn a VCD. If when you select burn nero asks for a image.nrg file name then the virtual device must be selected as the default recorder and not your burner.

[comet_104]

Hey Ya'll:

In reply to Mats:

I used the virtual dub+TMPGenc+VCDEasy trio to successfully make a semi-yucky VCD format of "The Tuxedo CD 1" that I downloaded off of Kazaa. In some spots you couldn't even see the picture. It looked all scrambled. Anyhow two points here:

1. I don't know about any bue/cue files. I used VCD Easy to burn the encoded file made by TMPGenc to the cd. What is a bin/cue file? Guess I need to do more reading.

2. I tried to take the Tuxedo.avi movie format and encode it to svcd instead for better format, as I have other movies and ended up with TMPGenc errors, usually the infamous wretched 'DECIMAL POINT FLOATING ERROR". Then when I would run the movie through the AVI filter on wretched Virtual dub, of course I followed the audio/video instructions before I saved it, I saved it as an avi file. Then whenever I would try to re-encode that file it would have the nerve to say that the file was corrupted. After a few times of this I got pist and started to use Nero which was just as bad if not worse. So anyhow...any suggestions for this?

Maybe If I keep experimenting/reading/asking questions I'll eventually get it. Geez......

Tonya

[mats.hogberg]

comet - Nero is a CD burning app, not an MPEG encoder. It is only interested in creating CD's and CD images. If you feed it a video file not in the correct format for a VCD (AVI or out of VCD specs MPEG) it will try to reencode that file into a VCD compliant MPEG. Even if Nero when encoding (which it shouldn't be allowed to in the first place!) crates an MPEG from the AVI, it is immediately used as a component in the VDC image creation process, and then erased. (Maybe it can be found in some temp dir - never looked.) Take our advice - Use TMPGEnc or any other MPEG encoder for creating MPEGs. Forget Nero for this task.

A bin/cue is a more common format of Neros .nrg file.

/Mats

[comet_104]

Hey Ya'll again

In response to Craig.....I was trying to set the recorder to my cd burner instead of a virtual drive. I wanted to create a vcd out of the file and burn it to Nero. It would only let me save it as an image.nrg file instead of saving it as an mpg1 file to my cd writer. It would give me the error code that the cd-r in my cd-rom was unformated. So I gave up in disgust. I thought maybe perhaps that I didn't have the correct codec installed in order to encode for the mpg1 file.

In response to Mats....Thank you for the information and advice. I will take your advice and try harder with TMPGenc. This site seems to have some really valuable information about TMPGenc. Especially the section that tells you what each part of TMPGenc is all about. It's just getting through the process of the wretched Decimal Point floatation error that stumps me everytime. The Virtual dub that I have doesn't seem to fix it. Someone else suggested another particular version of virtual dub, plus I found a couple of other sites that someone else suggested from reading these forum feedbacks. www.am-soft.ru/articles/drepair/. A divx repair site. Also King Johns guide to bad frames. http://ww2.vcdhelp.com/forum/userguides/117930.php. Have ya'll got any other suggestions for divx/avi fixit programs besides these? Maybe if someone is reading this they'll get something out of all of these processes.

Thanks,

Tonya

[banjazzer]

I was trying to set the recorder to my cd burner instead of a virtual drive. I wanted to create a vcd out of the file and burn it to Nero. It would only let me save it as an image.nrg file instead of saving it as an mpg1 file to my cd writer.

You need to set the Recorder to your CD Writer as already explained, or else you are only going to be able to write images to your HD.

Once you have an mpeg suitable suitable for (S)VCD you go to File>New and a *New Compilation* box will open. Then select Video CD or Super Video CD and hit *New*. Drag the mpeg across from the file browser. If you don't see a file browser, use View>New File browser.

Or, select Help>Use the Nero Wizard and hit the new compilation button.

By the way, all this is explained fully in the Nero helpfile under the heading *Video CD*