Comparison before the DMR ES10 and captured with the DMR ES10

[Joscraft_05]

Here i have a comparison, these are screenshots and are not from RAW videos, first i deinterlaced them with QTGMC (default qtgmc settings from Staxrip) and then resized with lanczos to 1440x1080 with low CRF for a good bitrate.

My Hi8 TRV95E camera connected to the front s-video input of the dvd recorder and for the output i used the s-video output (i didn't use SCART) connected to my Digital 8 TRV730E camera and capture my footage with firewire to DV with WinDV.

I don't have a remote yet so i did this with the settings it have already until i buy a remote to enter the menu.

Here is the video captured directly to my Digital 8 TRV730E camera without the DMR ES10, TBC from the Hi8 camera was disabled (OFF):

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Now this captured with the DMR ES10 and s-video used in both sides, i used the s-video output to my digital 8 camera so i didn't use SCART:

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[rgr]

Publish without resize.
But it's a battle of what's less worse -- DV or MPEG2

[Joscraft_05]

Publish without resize.
But it's a battle of what's less worse -- DV or MPEG2

Yes my fault i posted those examples with a resize to 1440x1080 with Lanczos (not NNEDI3_rpow2, i should have used that), there is not a noticeable difference because is a clean Hi8 tape in a good shape.

I don't understand your comment about the battle of DV 25mbps and mpeg2 DVD 9mbps, but if is what i'm thinking then no, i didn't use any DVD.

I just used my dvd recorder the DMR ES10 in passthrough for it's TBC, the output of my dvd recorder wich i used s-video was connected to my digital 8 camera to capture the video to my computer through firewire DV25.

[rgr]

Oh, I mistakenly assumed that one batch of screenshots was from DVD.
But are these screenshots supposed to prove anything? With a good tape, TBC will neither hurt nor help. The most damage is caused by the compression to DV 4:2:0 performed by the camera.

[Joscraft_05]

Oh, I mistakenly assumed that one batch of screenshots was from DVD.
But are these screenshots supposed to prove anything? With a good tape, TBC will neither hurt nor help. The most damage is caused by the compression to DV 4:2:0 performed by the camera.

About DV compression, I’m in my way to buy a Hauppauge USB Live 2 for start to make lossless captures.

I need to check why the Staxrip program doesn’t let me to keep 4:2:2 and I always need to convert to 4:2:0 when deinterlacing with QTGMC.

I have a PCI capture card in another computer if you ask me, but I’m going to buy the usb live2 for use it in my main computer and not need to have 2 computers connected and transferring files between a computer and another.

[rgr]

The camera always outputs a 4:2:0 signal via FireWire.

[Joscraft_05]

The camera always outputs a 4:2:0 signal via FireWire.

I said i have a PCI analog capture card installed in another way older computer with a core 2 quad and 4gb ram.

[Barrythecrab]

Have you tried Hybrid?
Selur’s Hybrid is a wonderful tool, does everything and does it well.
Excellent forum also. Hybrid will do what you want.

[Joscraft_05]

Have you tried Hybrid?
Selur’s Hybrid is a wonderful tool, does everything and does it well.
Excellent forum also. Hybrid will do what you want.

Staxrip is also a very good tool, the thing about 4:2:2 and 4:2:0 maybe is something i was doing wrong, i was watching a guy in youtube deinterlacing a 4:2:2 video in staxrip and it worked well for that guy.

[lollo]

If you use AviSynth and QTGMC you have full control on the processing; no need of a GUI

[Barrythecrab]

Mister Lollo, for unschooled wannabes such as myself…Avisynth/Vaporsynth literacy is out of reach, not necessarily out of being unable to learn it, just allocation of time spent to other life challenges.
For me, I don’t think I have the general knowledge to use Avi/Vaporsynth effectively but with a gui I do pretty well.
If it weren’t for Hybrid I’d be lost, my last coding was a bubble sort on Color Computer. Cue the dot-matrix printer!

[lollo]

Hybrid is a nice piece of sotware, not for beginners, but helping you when starting; and also sometimes making life easier for a whole processing. But to fully use its power, and to go beyond it, you need AviSynth / VapourSynth at "coding level". it is much easier than you think .

[Joscraft_05]

Hybrid is a nice piece of sotware, not for beginners, but helping you when starting; and also sometimes making life easier for a whole processing. But to fully use its power, and to go beyond it, you need AviSynth / VapourSynth at "coding level". it is much easier than you think .

I agree QTGMC at default settings can be pretty destructive.

I use custom configuration in the code of QTGMC to keep the grain, don’t do a lot of sharpness and more things like prevent QTGMC smooth too much the video and finally the result is a very good deinterlaced video with QTGMC.

However the screenshots I posted here was with QTGMC in default.

Then for resize now I use NNEDI3_rpow2, in 2 and Lanczos4Resize.