Blu Ray Iso to MP4 With out Quality Loss

[rustyrankin]

Hi guy's

hopefully someone can help, my problem is i've got a load of full Blu Ray Iso files, i want to stream or play of usb on my Panasonic Smart TV. I've used MakeMKV which i find great to use, now some will play perfectly but others Jump, pixelate and are unwatchable.

is there away around this, been told to convert the MKV or ISO to MP4, questions is will i lose qaulity which is the most important thing.

is there an prog that will keep the same size file and quality which converts to MP4 or is there away around playing all MKV's on the TV.

any help would be great

[hardy]

Any reason why MP4? Unless you are converting the lossless audio to AAC or another apple form there is no point in MP4. Anywho, it's just a container. My TV for instance will play MKV files but not MP4 via USB.

[Kerry56]

Have you tried MKVtoMP4 on one of those MKV files that is causing problems?

[rustyrankin]

no real reason only because some of the MKV's won;t play but MP4's will.

i basically want my Full Blu Ray iso's converted without quality loss and played on my Pany TV without problems

[rustyrankin]

"Have you tried MKVtoMP4 on one of those MKV files that is causing problems? "

i've converted the MKV to MP4 using Brorsoft, would the quality be the same as the ISO blu Ray, the file is slightly smaller.

[usually_quiet]

TVs have restrictions on what they will play in specific containers and some restrictions on what they will play that are independent of the type of container. Trying solve your problem by guessing isn't a good approach.

More information would help. Use MediaInfo to generate a report on one of the MKV files that plays and another report on one that does not and post it here. (Use View->Text to generate a full report that can be copied and pasted in your post.) Also post the make and model of the TV so someone can attempt to download the manual and find out what the TV plays.

[rustyrankin]

I'll get that info when i get home, thanks for all the replies

[rustyrankin]

right guy's if i've done this right e goes, this is "The Forest" which won;t play correctly on my Panasonic VIERA TX-48AX630B either through Serviio or USB from the drive

General
UniqueID/String : 251291395619431435631939362525533424589 (0xBD0CF65D295A829FEB49861E1A17CBCD)
CompleteName : G:\Movies\Forest,_The_(2016)_t00.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format_Version : Version 2
FileSize/String : 18.3 GiB
Duration/String : 1h 32mn
OverallBitRate_Mode/String : Variable
OverallBitRate/String : 28.1 Mbps
Movie : Forest, The (2016)
Encoded_Date : UTC 2016-06-27 20:13:03
Encoded_Application/String : MakeMKV v1.9.3 win(x64-release)
Encoded_Library/String : libmakemkv v1.9.3 (1.3.0/1.4.1) win(x64-release)

Video
ID/String : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format_Profile : High@L4.1
Format_Settings_CABAC/String : Yes
Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 2 frames
Format_Settings_GOP : M=1, N=10
CodecID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration/String : 1h 32mn
BitRate_Mode/String : Variable
BitRate/String : 24.5 Mbps
Width/String : 1 920 pixels
Height/String : 1 080 pixels
DisplayAspectRatio/String : 16:9
FrameRate_Mode/String : Constant
FrameRate/String : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
ColorSpace : YUV
ChromaSubsampling/String : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String : 8 bits
ScanType/String : Progressive
Bits-(Pixel*Frame) : 0.493
StreamSize/String : 15.9 GiB (87%)
Language/String : English
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Audio #1
ID/String : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format_Settings_Mode : 16
Format_Settings_Endianness : Big
CodecID : A_DTS
Duration/String : 1h 32mn
BitRate_Mode/String : Constant
BitRate/String : 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s)/String : 6 channels
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String : 48.0 KHz
FrameRate/String : 93.750 fps (512 spf)
BitDepth/String : 24 bits
Compression_Mode/String : Lossy
StreamSize/String : 1 003 MiB (5%)
Title : Surround 5.1
Language/String : English
Default/String : Yes
Forced/String : No

Audio #2
ID/String : 3
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format_Settings_Mode : 16
Format_Settings_Endianness : Big
CodecID : A_DTS
Duration/String : 1h 32mn
BitRate_Mode/String : Constant
BitRate/String : 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s)/String : 6 channels
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String : 48.0 KHz
FrameRate/String : 93.750 fps (512 spf)
BitDepth/String : 16 bits
Compression_Mode/String : Lossy
StreamSize/String : 1 003 MiB (5%)
Title : Surround 5.1
Language/String : Spanish
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #1
ID/String : 4
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : English
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #2
ID/String : 5
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : English
Default/String : Yes
Forced/String : No

Text #3
ID/String : 6
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : English
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #4
ID/String : 7
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : English
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #5
ID/String : 8
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : English
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #6
ID/String : 10
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : Chinese
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #7
ID/String : 12
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : Chinese
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #8
ID/String : 14
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : Danish
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #9
ID/String : 16
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : Finnish
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #10
ID/String : 18
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : Indonesian
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #11
ID/String : 20
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : Korean
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #12
ID/String : 22
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : Norwegian
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #13
ID/String : 24
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : Spanish
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #14
ID/String : 25
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : Spanish
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #15
ID/String : 26
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : Swedish
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
00:05:16.441 : en:Chapter 02
00:12:00.344 : en:Chapter 03
00:17:20.497 : en:Chapter 04
00:23:25.153 : en:Chapter 05
00:29:17.589 : en:Chapter 06
00:34:38.284 : en:Chapter 07
00:40:09.865 : en:Chapter 08
00:47:34.935 : en:Chapter 09
00:53:04.681 : en:Chapter 10
00:58:56.908 : en:Chapter 11
01:03:52.328 : en:Chapter 12
01:08:35.069 : en:Chapter 13
01:12:50.407 : en:Chapter 14
01:19:52.454 : en:Chapter 15
01:25:04.849 : en:Chapter 16

[usually_quiet]

A MediaInfo report from a MKV that does play would be quite useful as well.

[rustyrankin]

sorry here's one that works fine

General
UniqueID/String : 139747424546784953870957314107231889453 (0x69225FFD48D598131EB105BC437EE82D)
CompleteName : G:\Movies\Zootopia_t01.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format_Version : Version 2
FileSize/String : 20.4 GiB
Duration/String : 1h 48mn
OverallBitRate_Mode/String : VBR
OverallBitRate/String : 26.9 Mbps
Movie : Zootopia
Encoded_Date : UTC 2016-06-13 18:33:05
Encoded_Application/String : MakeMKV v1.9.3 win(x64-release)
Encoded_Library/String : libmakemkv v1.9.3 (1.3.0/1.4.1) win(x64-release)

Video
ID/String : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format_Profile : High@L4.1
Format_Settings_CABAC/String : Yes
Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 4 frame2
CodecID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration/String : 1h 48mn
BitRate_Mode/String : VBR
BitRate/String : 23.6 Mbps
BitRate_Maximum/String : 36.0 Mbps
Width/String : 1920 pixel3
Height/String : 1080 pixel3
DisplayAspectRatio/String : 16:9
FrameRate_Mode/String : CFR
FrameRate/String : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps2
ColorSpace : YUV
ChromaSubsampling/String : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String : 8 bit3
ScanType/String : Progressive
Bits-(Pixel*Frame) : 0.474
StreamSize/String : 17.9 GiB (88%)
Language/String : en
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Audio #1
ID/String : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format_Settings_Mode : 16
Format_Settings_Endianness : Big
CodecID : A_DTS
Duration/String : 1h 48mn
BitRate_Mode/String : CBR
BitRate/String : 1509 Kbps
Channel(s)/String : 6 channel3
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String : 48.0 KHz
FrameRate/String : 93.750 fps2 (512 spf)
BitDepth/String : 24 bit2
Compression_Mode/String : Lossy
StreamSize/String : 1.15 GiB (6%)
Title : Surround 5.1
Language/String : en
Default/String : Yes
Forced/String : No

Audio #2
ID/String : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format_Settings_ModeExtension : CM (complete main)
Format_Settings_Endianness : Big
CodecID : A_AC3
Duration/String : 1h 48mn
BitRate_Mode/String : CBR
BitRate/String : 640 Kbps
Channel(s)/String : 6 channel3
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String : 48.0 KHz
FrameRate/String : 31.250 fps3 (1536 spf)
Compression_Mode/String : Lossy
StreamSize/String : 498 MiB (2%)
Title : Surround 5.1
Language/String : fr
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Audio #3
ID/String : 4
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format_Settings_ModeExtension : CM (complete main)
Format_Settings_Endianness : Big
CodecID : A_AC3
Duration/String : 1h 48mn
BitRate_Mode/String : CBR
BitRate/String : 640 Kbps
Channel(s)/String : 6 channel3
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String : 48.0 KHz
FrameRate/String : 31.250 fps3 (1536 spf)
Compression_Mode/String : Lossy
StreamSize/String : 498 MiB (2%)
Title : Surround 5.1
Language/String : es
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #1
ID/String : 5
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : en
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #2
ID/String : 7
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : en
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #3
ID/String : 9
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : fr
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Text #4
ID/String : 11
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : es
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
00:00:59.559 : en:Chapter 02
00:05:50.099 : en:Chapter 03
00:10:05.563 : en:Chapter 04
00:14:31.537 : en:Chapter 05
00:18:24.019 : en:Chapter 06
00:26:03.353 : en:Chapter 07
00:30:57.438 : en:Chapter 08
00:37:07.099 : en:Chapter 09
00:40:43.441 : en:Chapter 10
00:44:31.752 : en:Chapter 11
00:51:40.430 : en:Chapter 12
00:55:40.378 : en:Chapter 13
01:00:48.269 : en:Chapter 14
01:03:37.855 : en:Chapter 15
01:09:19.822 : en:Chapter 16
01:13:39.164 : en:Chapter 17
01:17:07.372 : en:Chapter 18
01:21:52.365 : en:Chapter 19
01:28:19.168 : en:Chapter 20
01:32:43.432 : en:Chapter 21
01:36:12.141 : en:Chapter 22

[usually_quiet]

I'm not seeing anything. Maybe someone else will do better.

However, from what the manual says you will have to convert DTS audio to a different format use an MP4 container.

Your TV's manual says this:

[lingyi]

I'm not seeing anything. Maybe someone else will do better.

However, from what the manual says you will have to convert DTS audio to a different format use an MP4 container.

Your TV's manual says this:

Highly likely the audio is the issue. I have a Panasonic VT50 and Zootopia (remuxed to .mkv) and other videos won't play via DLNA "Audio format not supported" ). Never bothered to check what the audio type was since I just ran the same files through my WDTV (through DLNA) and they work fine.

@rustyrankin

Remuxing to MP4 probably won't help because as usually_quiet's pic shows, .mkv supports more audio file formats than .mp4 and it's probably the audio that's the issue.

Ultimately the best solution to this type of question: "My xxx brand's HDTV media player doesn't play xxx file." is to use a standalone media player or HTPC as built in media players are very limited in theer file support.

Another major plus to using an external palyer is that the video settings (at least on my VT50) are very limited with DLNA and the built in player. Fine for casual viewing, but the THX settings or even better tweaked settings through HDMI are much better.

[netmask56]

Use MKVMergeGUI to make a copy but unticking all the unnecessary audio tracks and subtitles so you end up with Video - 1 x audio - 1 x subtitle plus chapters. No processing so no loss of quality. If the problem is the DTS audio run the new file through either Popcorn Audio Convertor or MKV2AC3 , both these programs will change the DTS track to AC3 in situ only processing the audio. Try this and see if removing all the unnecessary stuff in your original file improves thing

Your MediaInfo file should then look like this

General
UniqueID/String : 251291395619431435631939362525533424589 (0xBD0CF65D295A829FEB49861E1A17CBCD)
CompleteName : G:\Movies\Forest,_The_(2016)_t00.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format_Version : Version 2
FileSize/String : 18.3 GiB
Duration/String : 1h 32mn
OverallBitRate_Mode/String : Variable
OverallBitRate/String : 28.1 Mbps
Movie : Forest, The (2016)
Encoded_Date : UTC 2016-06-27 20:13:03
Encoded_Application/String : MakeMKV v1.9.3 win(x64-release)
Encoded_Library/String : libmakemkv v1.9.3 (1.3.0/1.4.1) win(x64-release)

Video
ID/String : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format_Profile : High@L4.1
Format_Settings_CABAC/String : Yes
Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 2 frames
Format_Settings_GOP : M=1, N=10
CodecID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration/String : 1h 32mn
BitRate_Mode/String : Variable
BitRate/String : 24.5 Mbps
Width/String : 1 920 pixels
Height/String : 1 080 pixels
DisplayAspectRatio/String : 16:9
FrameRate_Mode/String : Constant
FrameRate/String : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
ColorSpace : YUV
ChromaSubsampling/String : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String : 8 bits
ScanType/String : Progressive
Bits-(Pixel*Frame) : 0.493
StreamSize/String : 15.9 GiB (87%)
Language/String : English
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Audio #1
ID/String : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format_Settings_Mode : 16
Format_Settings_Endianness : Big
CodecID : A_DTS
Duration/String : 1h 32mn
BitRate_Mode/String : Constant
BitRate/String : 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s)/String : 6 channels
ChannelPositions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String : 48.0 KHz
FrameRate/String : 93.750 fps (512 spf)
BitDepth/String : 24 bits
Compression_Mode/String : Lossy
StreamSize/String : 1 003 MiB (5%)
Title : Surround 5.1
Language/String : English
Default/String : Yes
Forced/String : No

Text #1
ID/String : 4
Format : PGS
CodecID : S_HDMV/PGS
CodecID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language/String : English
Default/String : No
Forced/String : No

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
00:05:16.441 : en:Chapter 02
00:12:00.344 : en:Chapter 03
00:17:20.497 : en:Chapter 04
00:23:25.153 : en:Chapter 05
00:29:17.589 : en:Chapter 06
00:34:38.284 : en:Chapter 07
00:40:09.865 : en:Chapter 08
00:47:34.935 : en:Chapter 09
00:53:04.681 : en:Chapter 10
00:58:56.908 : en:Chapter 11
01:03:52.328 : en:Chapter 12
01:08:35.069 : en:Chapter 13
01:12:50.407 : en:Chapter 14
01:19:52.454 : en:Chapter 15
01:25:04.849 : en:Chapter 16

[videobruger]

run the new file through either Popcorn Audio Convertor

Or convert it in MakeMKV

[hardy]

DTS core is better left alone since it's already a lossy format, and MP4 will not support it stick with MKV & mkvtoolnix, mux out the unnecessary audio and subtitles

[usually_quiet]

The subs aren't useful in their current state. They could all be removed. The TV won't display PGS subtitles multiplexed in with the audio and video. It wants subtitles in MicroDVD, SubRip, or TMPlayer format (.srt, .sub or .txt), as files with the same name as the video (other than extension) placed in the same folder with the video they belong to.

[rustyrankin]

hi guy's thanks for all the replies, i've tried all suggested but still get the same problem, i've just run a movie i converted to mp4 through mediainfo results below, the only difference i can see is the Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 2 frames has changed to 3 frames. the same move info is posted above "the forest" could this be the problem?

General
Complete name : G:\Movies\Forest,_The_(2016)_t00.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size : 16.2 GiB
Duration : 1h 32mn
Overall bit rate : 24.9 Mbps
Writing application : Lavf56.15.104

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1h 32mn
Bit rate : 24.5 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.493
Stream size : 15.8 GiB (97%)
Writing library : x264 core 135
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=4 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=50 / keyint_min=5 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=24533 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language : English

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 1h 32mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel(s)_Original : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Frame rate : 46.875 fps (1024 spf)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 426 MiB (3%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1

[hardy]

3 frames is low even for a 1080p encode, and if the video was untouched there would be no "encode" settings displayed in mediainfo

[rustyrankin]

is that bad then?

ok because MKV's are hit an miss on my Panasonic TV when the ISO is converted to MKV what's my best option,

is there an ISO to MP4 converter with out quality loss?

whats my best option

[usually_quiet]

According to the description, MkvToMp4 will use the original video from an MKV if it is H.264 and convert non-compliant audio. I haven't tried it, so I don't know if it does a good job converting from DTS to AAC.

I don't know of any good ISO to MP4 converters.

If the video is the source of your playback problem, putting it in an MP4 container probably won't help. If the original DTS audio is the source of your playback problem, then converting it to AAC or AC3 will make you MKVs playable.

[Edit]I suppose you could try mounting the ISO using DVDFab Virtual Drive or similar software and then use MkvToMp4 on the mts file containing the movie.

[rustyrankin]

every MKV to mp4 i've done they all work in mp4 format, i just want the best quality i can get

don;t think the DTS is the problem, i've converted to AAC and it still doesn't play, the movie has pix-elation and stutters

[usually_quiet]

every MKV to mp4 i've done they all work in mp4 format, i just want the best quality i can get

don;t think the DTS is the problem, i've converted to AAC and it still doesn't play, the movie has pix-elation and stutters

I assume you used the Brorsoft product you mentioned for the conversion you posted. It appears to re-encode both the video and the audio, which means it is not the lossless solution you keep asking for and that your TV likely won't play all Blu-ray spec H.264 video, regardless of the container.

BTW Brorsoft it is another trade name owned by Aimersoft, a notorious spammer and crapware outfit that uses ffmpeg and other freeware in many of its products without adhering to the licensing requirements. http://www.macworld.com/article/1153685/web-apps/speaking-spammers.html

[stonesfan129]

What about XMedia Recode? I know that you could take your .mkv file (you would need to rip the .iso to .mkv) and copy the video and audio, remuxing it into an .mp4 container.

[rustyrankin]

right think i need to sit down and try one thing at a time instead of jumping from one thing to another, i've tried Mezzmo, Serviio, TVmobili, with joy real joy, some will play some won't.

Going to stick with Serviio as i prefer that and running one MKV file through different prog's until i find a working solution, if there is one!!!!!

[hardy]

I would have a mod change the title. If you want the best quality, don't touch it. Audio is one thing, but encoding the video is a whole different ball game. You keep asking the same question but the title is incorrect

"without quality loss" = untouched video = Full BD / Remux

[rustyrankin]

right sticking with MakeMKV i've taken the Audio and converted to AAC Audio and taken the sub's out and it still pix-elates and sticks

anybody see anything?

General
Unique ID : 214037952394516149208303998788544367160 (0xA10635CE0A9BA517B4E6E711C3B60A38)
Complete name : G:\Forest,_The_(2016)_t00.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 16.2 GiB
Duration : 1h 32mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
Movie name : Forest, The (2016)
Encoded date : UTC 2016-07-11 18:45:49
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.9.3 win(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.9.3 (1.3.0/1.4.1) win(x64-release)

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=10
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 32mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 1h 32mn
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Frame rate : 46.875 fps (1024 spf)
Compression mode : Lossy
Title : Stereo
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
00:05:16.441 : en:Chapter 02
00:12:00.344 : en:Chapter 03
00:17:20.497 : en:Chapter 04
00:23:25.153 : en:Chapter 05
00:29:17.589 : en:Chapter 06
00:34:38.284 : en:Chapter 07
00:40:09.865 : en:Chapter 08
00:47:34.935 : en:Chapter 09
00:53:04.681 : en:Chapter 10
00:58:56.908 : en:Chapter 11
01:03:52.328 : en:Chapter 12
01:08:35.069 : en:Chapter 13
01:12:50.407 : en:Chapter 14
01:19:52.454 : en:Chapter 15
01:25:04.849 : en:Chapter 16

[usually_quiet]

right sticking with MakeMKV i've taken the Audio and converted to AAC Audio and taken the sub's out and it still pix-elates and sticks

anybody see anything?

Yes. The version of "The Forest" which you say played correctly is not the original. The video as well as the audio were re-encoded. Since the video was re-encoded, there was some quality loss. Maybe there was not enough quality loss to be obvious, but it isn't possible to re-encode to lossy AVC without some loss of quality.

It should now be abundantly clear that your TV does not play all AVC Blu-ray-spec video correctly. Maybe there are some sections in the original where the video's bitrate is too high, or maybe the original used AVC encoding options which your TV doesn't like. The solution is obvious. Those that don't play need to be re-encoded (video, audio, or both), or you need to play them with something other than the TV.

[rustyrankin]

"t should now be abundantly clear that your TV does not play all AVC Blu-ray-spec video correctly. Maybe there are some sections in the original where the video's bitrate is too high, or maybe the original used AVC encoding options which your TV doesn't like. The solution is obvious. Those that don't play need to be re-encoded (video, audio, or both), or you need to play them with something other than the TV."

i agree,

i've turned on transcoding on Serviio which now plays all the movies, the info says the MKV files are MPEG2-TS files, i take it there will be loss in quality when Serviio transcodes?

but at least they play

[hardy]

i've turned on transcoding on Serviio which now plays all the movies, the info says the MKV files are MPEG2-TS files, i take it there will be loss in quality when Serviio transcodes?

Yep, the word transcode & encode mean... coding