Improper VBR Audio ?

[Blå_Mocka]

"The Sourche AVI file is encoded with an improper VBR Audio.
The Video and the Audio stream of the splittet file may not be in sync if splitted directley, So we recomend you to recompress the *entire*audio stream first. Do you want to recompress the audio stream"
Im klicking "Yes"

Im using Boilsoft AVI/MPEG/RM/WMV Splitter, and this message above is what i get when i trye to cut out some scenery from a AVI movie
the problem is thath the procces goes on forever, and the output is ending up "a bit big i size"(some Gb)
and the problem is thath all programs i have tested thath are capable of recompress VBR, acts the same, end up to big in size, im thinking of VirtualDub spectaculay
Im starting VirtualDub insert my movie file, and shoose "Sourche Audio" and
"Full Proccesing Mode" and shoose "Save as avi" as people have instructed me to do, still it gets to big
perhaps there are easier application thath can fix VBR, in some even moore simple stepps than even i can handle without doing wrong

the problem with VD is thath you need to choose a codec to compress the output file allso before "saving as avi" right? and i allways oviolsy shoose wrong cause i know nothing about codecs
some overall in-deep help with fixing VBR would be mutch appretiated

And bye the way, can i pleassse have some last help in my other thread thath is slowly walking toward dissaperance
https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1639630#1639630

[NormaJ]

In VirtualDub you must choose - Video - Compression, and select one. If you don't, VirtualDub will save avi uncompressed (default), that's why it takes so damn long in time and in size.
Also, I don't think you must reencode the video part at all, but just the audio. I love VirtualDubMod for such things.

Cheers

[redwudz]

In VirtualDub Mod, follow this guide to convert the VBR audio to WAV: https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=280779

Add that back into your video with VirtualDub Mod

Save audio and video both with Direct stream processing. This will only take a few minutes. The audio file will be very large. If you want it smaller, instead: After adding back in, select full audio processing and MP3 CBR audio for your audio compression. But be sure to use Direct stream copy with the video.

Then you should be able to split the file new file.

[Blå_Mocka]

In VirtualDub Mod, follow this guide to convert the VBR audio to WAV: https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=280779

Add that back into your video with VirtualDub Mod

Save audio and video both with Direct stream processing. This will only take a few minutes. The audio file will be very large. If you want it smaller, instead: After adding back in, select full audio processing and MP3 CBR audio for your audio compression. But be sure to use Direct stream copy with the video.

Then you should be able to split the file new file.

Thanks for the guide
only 2 problems

1. One certain avi that needs fix, when i try to load it i get this message

- Error Decompressing video frame 0: An Unknown Error Occured /maybe corrupt data.(error code -100)

darn! can i fix this somway?

2. I did excatley as the guide said..and i ended up with a WAV file on 805 Mb, thats good

"Now you can convert your WAV(s) to any format you like" says the guide and it ends

sorry about my brain but how do i do this? how can a audio file be converted to a video file? well it must become a video file at the end thats all i know lol

[jlittle1978]

I'm not sure, but I think I am having the same problem. Whenever I add subtitles to a movie (about 600 mb) it always balloons out to over 10 GB...why is that?

How can I set virtualdub to make a smaller movie with subtitles?

[redwudz]

Blå_Mocka:

1.) That sounds like a corrupted video. If VDM can't open it, not a lot you can do to fix it.

2.) "Now you can convert your WAV(s) to any format you like". He meant to any audio format you want.
You have the option of converting it with a program like Audacity or add it back into VDM and convert it to MP3 CBR with full audio processing. You use Direct stream copy with the video. Then you would save it with a new filename and you would have your original video with a new audio.

jlittle1978, to add permanent subtitles, you need to re-encode. And you have to select a codec for that under 'Compression'. If your video was an Xvid, then you would select that under compression. If you don't select a codec, the default will be RGB video and it will be huge.

[Blå_Mocka]

Blå_Mocka:
1.) That sounds like a corrupted video. If VDM can't open it, not a lot you can do to fix it.

how weird. the video plays in all media players, and video-inspector indicate no problem..

or add it back into VDM and convert it to MP3 CBR with full audio processing. You use Direct stream copy with the video. Then you would save it with a new filename and you would have your original video with a new audio.

watch how this "genius" take in your instruction above and do with it
(its called "Aspergers Syndrom" wich make it hard to get an owerwhelming view over the instructions..still i want to succed!)

converting the new created WAV inside VDM to a MP3 you say, that means i have to use "load" on the WAV-file to start with? VDM only loads videos..?

I still dont understad how these 2 files (the new WAV>MP3 and the old AVI) shall merge together? did you described thath avobe im mixing thath up with the converting of the WAV to MP3 i think
i hate my brain ..its ok you can scream at me!

[Soopafresh]

How big is the file ? Load it in Gspot and post a screen capture.

[mats.hogberg]

Blå_Mocka:
Load the AVI in VirtualDub.
Under the Audio menu, select WAV audio, then select your wav file.
Under the Audio menu, select Full processing mode.
Under the Audio menu, select Compression.
In this form, select Lame MP3 (You must have Lame ACM installed http://www.rarewares.org/files/mp3/lameDS-3.97.zip)
Select bitrate (48000 Hz, 192 kbps, CBR Stereo)
Under the video menu, select Direct Stream Copy.
Finally Save as AVI under File menu.
Say a little prayer hoping you won't get sync problems while your new AVI is saved out.

/Mats

[Soopafresh]

mats - look at this thread.

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=319285

[Blå_Mocka]

mats - look at this thread.

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=319285

this 2 threads is accually not the same, but kind of overlaps a "little" i see now :P
thanks to virtualdub......mod
its 2 diffferent files. 1 needs channel fix, and one needs VBR fix

but the solution is pretty the same
But i can confess this, its confusing to use both VirtualDub and VirtualDubmod with this 2 threads together
im working on the soulution thou, so keep the faith

(my father is bright, but my mother can hardly turn on the TV herself )

[Blå_Mocka]

Blå_Mocka:
Load the AVI in VirtualDub.
Under the Audio menu, select WAV audio, then select your wav file.
Under the Audio menu, select Full processing mode.
Under the Audio menu, select Compression.
In this form, select Lame MP3 (You must have Lame ACM installed http://www.rarewares.org/files/mp3/lameDS-3.97.zip)
Select bitrate (48000 Hz, 192 kbps, CBR Stereo)
Under the video menu, select Direct Stream Copy.
Finally Save as AVI under File menu.
Say a little prayer hoping you won't get sync problems while your new AVI is saved out.

/Mats

thank you Mats and all others for the patient! thath is the way i must have instructions before me..and it worked, the VBR is finally..after blood, sweet, and tears fixed!..and i learned it for the future
i guess i must try another program for my file thath refuse to load inside VirtualDub..cause that file is not corrupted

anyway its gonna be great fun to cut out the "Tracey Adams" parts from this classical movie without problems yes you heard right

[Blå_Mocka]

I accualy was able now to load the other movie thath needed channel fix in Virtualdub allso, after switching to the beta version
and i got rid of the one channel audio..so thank to all

one last question, i think i prefer Virtualdubmod (and the open sourche Virtualdubmod Surround) to test if i can re-create similar DVD sound as the sourche allso?

but i did not find thoose/similar audio settings at all inte thath program? no load WAV? still in the manual it says it should look as Virtualdub?

[redwudz]

I prefer VD Mod, partially for the way it handles audio, which seems a lot better to me than the regular VirtualDub. All the audio is in the 'Streams' menu and you just use 'Add' or 'Save WAV' or 'Demux' to work with it. And I do use the Aud-X version. To load a WAV, just use 'Add'.

[Blå_Mocka]

I prefer VD Mod, partially for the way it handles audio, which seems a lot better to me than the regular VirtualDub. All the audio is in the 'Streams' menu and you just use 'Add' or 'Save WAV' or 'Demux' to work with it. And I do use the Aud-X version. To load a WAV, just use 'Add'.

im testing to create a WAV with VirtualDubmod now instead
and it send me a warning on the avi-file

"Couldn't locate decompressor for format xvid (unknown)
Virtualdub requires a video for windows[VFW]compatible codec to decompress
video, Direct Show codecs, such as thoose used by Windows Media Player are not suitable
only Direct Stream is available for this video"

and its correct.nothing happends later when it shall start to create the WAV with full proccessing mode

shall i use this Aud-X to this somehow? ore what decompressor do i miss here? (have latest Xvid codec installed and Codec Pack all in 1)

[mats.hogberg]

have latest Xvid codec installed and Codec Pack all in 1)

That last part may have been a big mistake...

/Mats

[Blå_Mocka]

have latest Xvid codec installed and Codec Pack all in 1)

That last part may have been a big mistake...

/Mats

ok i remove them now then ..what decompressor do i need instead in this case?

i dont give up just yet Mats, i learn moore and moore, soon i can fly myself

[mats.hogberg]

It's the XviD codec you need. Uninstall what XviD codec you have, dl and install latest build.
Unforunately, tha damage many codec packs make, don't get undone by reinstalling. I made the same n00b mistake once, and never really got my system fully operational video-wise until I reformated and reinstalled Windows.

Try Codec Sniper, and see if it reports some problems.

/Mats

[Blå_Mocka]

It's the XviD codec you need. Uninstall what XviD codec you have, dl and install latest build.
Unforunately, tha damage many codec packs make, don't get undone by reinstalling. I made the same n00b mistake once, and never really got my system fully operational video-wise until I reformated and reinstalled Windows.

Try Codec Sniper, and see if it reports some problems.

/Mats

Now i have cleaned the computer from codec packs and the old Xvid.
codec sniper reported some brooken ones..but nothing related to Xvid what i could see, but i executed them instantly anyway, now there are no brooken codecpacks and i have no codec installed exept your Xvid now
and i tryed Virtualdubmod again
and it complain like this

"Error Initializing audio stream decompression
Check to make sure you have the required codec"

i checked the file with VideoInspector and its "green"

(2) How do i sett audio compression in Virtualdubmod? didnt find it?
not in the stream list

[mats.hogberg]

What about if you get ffdshow also?
My last idea is to install the latest DivX codec too, and use AVI FourCC Code Changer and change to DivX (DX50) - XviD and DivX are similar enough to be decompressed using the same decompressor.

/Mats

[Blå_Mocka]

What about if you get ffdshow also?
My last idea is to install the latest DivX codec too, and use AVI FourCC Code Changer and change to DivX (DX50) - XviD and DivX are similar enough to be decompressed using the same decompressor.

/Mats

now i have all 3 installed
im starting up AVI FourCC Code Changer and load my AVI
but i only see 4 alterantives (in both colums) too choose between in all files i load

MP41
MP42
MP43
DIV3
i dont get any DivX (DX50) alternative? whys thath?

(when trying Virtualdub without mod
i get this warning message when loading this AVI)

"AVI:A non-zero wBitsPerSample value was detected in the audio format structure
THis has been corrected in-memory to zero for better compability with comonlt installed
MP3 audio codecs"

it seems general however like i can merge WAV-files with the videos in Virtualdubmod if the are created with Virtualdub!
cause Mod cant seems to create WAV here