burning and authored mpeg to dvd?

[just]

why is it that every time that i burn an authoured mpeg to dvd i get some problems?
some problems are: i get a sec or two of silence or colorful squares just showing up for a few seconds or skippy scenes?

the blank media i am using are (verbatim dvd+r dl) (sony dvd+r) (memorex dvd+r)

when i use the (verbatim dvd+r dl) theirs a slight silence and its as if it fast fowards ..this happens at the middle of the movie? is it because of the two layers?

what is the best software that i can use to burn my mpegs and or video_ts files without any problems?
i am currently using nero burning rom (the latest version)

[guns1inger]

How are you authoring ? What tools are you using ?
How are you encoding ? What tools ?

If you are authoring correctly then you will have a Video_TS folder with IFO, BUP and VOB files, ready for burning. If you are burning mpg files directly then there is no guarantee a particular play will play them.

Personally, I would burn with imgburn for all DVD video work, including data video discs, and you should only burn with Imgburn for DL DVD burns, as Nero has know issues with layer break placement and is generally a poor option for DL burning.

[tmw]

I had a very similar experience when I would just burn the files (folder structure too) to the DVD, like a data DVD. Evidently, one has to make an image of the video_ts files, and burn the image as an ISO or something like that. I too use imgburn, and it works just fine. Make sure you are burning as a video DVD, and not just files on the DVD.

Also, does your DVD play fine on your computer, but not the standalone player? That would be consistent with what I experienced.

[just]

guns1inger


i am using tmpgenc 3 with divx authoring (to author)
i am using vdubmob for demux of video and audio
i am using PROCODER 3

tmw

yes they do play good on computer but theirs problems when it comes to dvd player!

thank you guys for the answers..if i still have problems will come back..

[guns1inger]

Do not create VOBs with ProCoder 3. Output as elementary streams (video and audio streams), then author with tmpgenc DVD author. Output as a Video_TS folder with contents and burn with Imgburn.

If you cannot get to the stage of having a Video_TS folder with IFO, BUP and VOB files in it, you are doing something wrong at the authoring stage.

[Noahtuck]

Evidently, one has to make an image of the video_ts files, and burn the image as an ISO or something like that.

Baloney, horse hockey, malarky, bull crap, well... you get the idea

You do NOT have to create an image file of the video_ts folder and it's contents in order to burn a functioning quality dvd..... And anyone who try's to say diff. is full of any one of the suggestions given earlier

[jman98]

Memorex media is the worst I've ever bought. I'm not saying it's the worst on the planet as there is actually worse media out there, but it's the worst I ever bought and it's pretty bad. Sony also sucks now, although some years ago they were pretty good. Now they just sell low quality media made by the cheapest manufacturers they can find.

Verbatim media is generally very good, but I have seen DVD players that have issues with all DL media. This could be part of your problem here.

Do note that TMPGenc has flaws if you are encoding with it. I've seen it do macroblocks at scene changes even with clean source material and bitrates of 8000 Kbps during the encode. If you are encoding with Procoder, I have no experience with that.

[just]

guns1inger
Posted: Nov 17, 2008 19:14
Do not create VOBs with ProCoder 3. Output as elementary streams (video and audio streams), then author with tmpgenc DVD author. Output as a Video_TS folder with contents and burn with Imgburn.

If you cannot get to the stage of having a Video_TS folder with IFO, BUP and VOB files in it, you are doing something wrong at the authoring stage.[/quote]

so what your saying is not to demux the audio from the video with vdubmod before i encode with procoder?

if so when i encode i will get an audio and video file right?

thank will try to burn with imgburn!


and to everyone else thank you for your response as im still looking to see what is the best blank media! as far as i have tried VERBATIM IS THE BEST ONE!

[guns1inger]

If your source has AC3 audio, demux with virtualdub then run it through AC3 fix. Encode the video with ProCoder, producing just a video stream - probably an m2v file - then use these to author.

If the source audio is not AC3 then you will have to encode it to AC3 - aften is for this, although you may want to use one of the GUIs for it.

Of course you could simplify this whole process by using FAVC to do all the grunt work for you.

[tmw]

Evidently, one has to make an image of the video_ts files, and burn the image as an ISO or something like that.

Baloney, horse hockey, malarky, bull crap, well... you get the idea

You do NOT have to create an image file of the video_ts folder and it's contents in order to burn a functioning quality dvd..... And anyone who try's to say diff. is full of any one of the suggestions given earlier

I don't mean to say you are full of crap, but when I burn the video files (e.g. author to a folder on hard drive, and then burn that structure to a DVD-R), it does NOT play on my stand-alone DVD player. But, it does play on computers.

When I use imgburn to create and burn the image of the very same authored folders, the DVD-R plays fine on my stand-alone DVD players. Don't ask me why (hence why I say things like 'something like that'), but trust my on that experience. See my original post here.

If you can explain what the imgburn does that a straight burn of files to a DVD-R doesn't do (e.g. UDF, ISO, and Joliet descrypters), I'd be curious. However, just throwing around phrases like bull crap isn't building your credibility, or helping the OP.

[tmw]

Moe notes from wikipedia on Universal Disk Format (UDF):

Standalone DVD player compatibility
Some users have reported that video DVDs burned on their computers in UDF version 1.5 are not compatible with their set-top video DVD players. These players seem to be only compatible with UDF version 1.02 (that provides both UDF and ISO 9660 directories.) As some popular DVD burning programs default to UDF version 1.5 when burning video DVDs, users have found it necessary to avoid using the software wizard and instead manually configure the burn to version 1.02.

Don't ask me how to do that, though.

[Pinstripes23]

TMW:

Have you tried following the guide at the imgburn site? - http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=4632

Imgburn can burn dvd-video files from the folder for a long time now without creating an iso. Your post was from way back in 2004.

[just]

guns1inger
Posted: Nov 20, 2008 18:42
If your source has AC3 audio, demux with virtualdub then run it through AC3 fix. Encode the video with ProCoder, producing just a video stream - probably an m2v file - then use these to author.

If the source audio is not AC3 then you will have to encode it to AC3 - aften is for this, although you may want to use one of the GUIs for it.

Of course you could simplify this whole process by using FAVC to do all the grunt work for you.

yes i have done this and authored. the movie that i authored was about 3:30 minutes long and i ended up with 42 chapters!
the movie played excellent all the way until it hit chapter 38 and paused?
is this because it has to many chapters?
or it is because i shrunk the size by 3gb? (11.2 --> to fit on a DL 8.5)

[guns1inger]

You can have up to 99 chapters per title. I have commercial discs with more than 42 chapters and they play fine.

If you open the disc in your PC, can you scroll past that point and see video ?

Are you sure that the full video encoded correctly ?

DL compatibility and reliability is still a long way short of SL standards, and SL DVD standards still fall short of CD standards.

[Noahtuck]

Evidently, one has to make an image of the video_ts files, and burn the image as an ISO or something like that.

Baloney, horse hockey, malarky, bull crap, well... you get the idea

You do NOT have to create an image file of the video_ts folder and it's contents in order to burn a functioning quality dvd..... And anyone who try's to say diff. is full of any one of the suggestions given earlier

I don't mean to say you are full of crap, but when I burn the video files (e.g. author to a folder on hard drive, and then burn that structure to a DVD-R), it does NOT play on my stand-alone DVD player. But, it does play on computers.

When I use imgburn to create and burn the image of the very same authored folders, the DVD-R plays fine on my stand-alone DVD players. Don't ask me why (hence why I say things like 'something like that'), but trust my on that experience. See my original post here.

If you can explain what the imgburn does that a straight burn of files to a DVD-R doesn't do (e.g. UDF, ISO, and Joliet descrypters), I'd be curious. However, just throwing around phrases like bull crap isn't building your credibility, or helping the OP.

Well... then you are doing something wrong because it makes no diff. what so ever if you just burn the dvd COMPLIANT files directly to a dvdr without making an ISO or image first.
99.99% of the time i burn dvd COMPLIANT files & i NEVER make an ISO first.

There have been sooooooooo many times people have just burned files to a dvd, that were dvd compliant & authored without putting them in a VIDEO_TS folder and then asked here why they would not play.

Dropping them into imgburn without a video_ts folder, imgburn will even ASK you if they are supposed to be dvd video or something like that and make or put them into a video_ts folder.

And from that post, yes, you were doing it wrong.
Which was explained to you in that post so referencing it really does not help your argument
And that was how many years ago before Imgburn even existed
FYI: Imgburn was made by the person who made DvdDecrypter, after they went after him for it and made him stop development of it.
Also, an ISO or IMG file is basically nothing more than a container like a folder on your HDD, it just contains whatever you put in it.

[just]

guns1inger
Posted: Nov 24, 2008 18:47
You can have up to 99 chapters per title. I have commercial discs with more than 42 chapters and they play fine.

If you open the disc in your PC, can you scroll past that point and see video ?

Are you sure that the full video encoded correctly ?

DL compatibility and reliability is still a long way short of SL standards, and SL DVD standards still fall short of CD standards.

yes it does go past that point and im able to see the video
yes i am sure i left the encoding overnight.

do u think that this happened because i shrunk the file when i was about to encode with tmpgenc dvd author to fit an 8.5 dvd?

or do u think i should leave as is and then shrink to fit 8.5 dl dvd with dvd shrink? thanks

[just]

forgot one thing do u think it can be the dvd?

[guns1inger]

It happened because you have no idea what you are doing, and refuse to listen to the advice given to you repeatedly.

Encode your video using the correct bitrate so you do not have to re-encode it to something smaller afterwards. Then you don't risk loss of quality, or truncating your video.

Until you start doing the job correctly to begin with, you are asking for trouble.

[just]

guns1inger
Posted: Nov 25, 2008 19:03
It happened because you have no idea what you are doing, and refuse to listen to the advice given to you repeatedly.

Encode your video using the correct bitrate so you do not have to re-encode it to something smaller afterwards. Then you don't risk loss of quality, or truncating your video.

Until you start doing the job correctly to begin with, you are asking for trouble.

ok got it thanks..
the thing is that procoder 3 doesnt accept the correct bitrate i that i put into it! it rounds it to the nearest hundred!
so do i leave what procoder 3 gives me?
im sorry for all these questions

[guns1inger]

Round it down to the nearest hundred under the bitrate you really want. Or better yet, stop using ProCoder. It is way out of your league. You need to use ConvertXtoDVD. It takes all these hard questions away from your control, so you don't need to worry about them at all.

[just]

guns1inger
Posted: Nov 25, 2008 19:30
Round it down to the nearest hundred under the bitrate you really want. Or better yet, stop using ProCoder. It is way out of your league. You need to use ConvertXtoDVD. It takes all these hard questions away from your control, so you don't need to worry about them at all.

ok thanks but i had trouble with convertxtodvd so ill stick to procoder 3 since i have invested my money into it..
thank you so much for your help!

[tmw]

Evidently, one has to make an image of the video_ts files, and burn the image as an ISO or something like that.

Baloney, horse hockey, malarky, bull crap, well... you get the idea

You do NOT have to create an image file of the video_ts folder and it's contents in order to burn a functioning quality dvd..... And anyone who try's to say diff. is full of any one of the suggestions given earlier

If you can explain what the imgburn does that a straight burn of files to a DVD-R doesn't do (e.g. UDF, ISO, and Joliet descrypters), I'd be curious. However, just throwing around phrases like bull crap isn't building your credibility, or helping the OP.

Well... then you are doing something wrong because it makes no diff. what so ever if you just burn the dvd COMPLIANT files directly to a dvdr without making an ISO or image first.
99.99% of the time i burn dvd COMPLIANT files & i NEVER make an ISO first.

And from that post, yes, you were doing it wrong.
Also, an ISO or IMG file is basically nothing more than a container like a folder on your HDD, it just contains whatever you put in it.

I'm going to admit I didn't understand what was going on, causing the situation both I and the OP were facing. The image process fixed the issue, however as Noatuck states, images are not a requirement.

Noahtuck, do you know what you're talking about more than I do and refuse to share your knowledge, or do you just want to ridicule others?

Using the above, here's what I found.
When looking again at the NTI burning software I used to create this situation, under the Layout Properties, there is a File System section. The default was Joliet: Windows 95 long filenames. Evidently, my DVD player did not like this option, and imgclassic and dvd-dycrypter in creating and burning the ISO file set the correct file system (e.g. UDF 1.02 per what I found on the web).

For the OP, you might check the similar settings in Nero burning rom. I don't have that software and cannot see how to update them, but based on the screenshot in the tools section, it might be the "Character Set" that needs to be changed to be compatible with a standalone DVD player (e.g. UDF 1.02), in addition to other computers.

Good luck.