putting scratch on disc

[thelandlord]

Please tell me everything i need to know about this to stop or slow people down who want to copy a disc i give them,dont ask me why or whatever just tell me how to do it .

Thanks paul

[Bodyslide]

Can't be done. All Disc's that are out now can be copied. Nothing can be done, Sorry.

[johns0]

Author the dvd with the first part intro to be 10 minutes of blank and have it skipped on first play and put your scratch right at the very beginning of the dvd.

This will stop or slow down newbies,the rest will get past this with no problem.

[Bodyslide]

Never heard of doing that before, but it should work.

[guns1inger]

Just to show you how much of a waste of tiem this will be

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=276772

Plus, you have to do it to every disk you give out.

[jdizzy40]

No No... DRill hole in disk, put master lock on disk. This way they have to get a key from you before playing. Simple right!????

[ROF]

Please tell me everything i need to know about this to stop or slow people down who want to copy a disc i give them,dont ask me why or whatever just tell me how to do it .

Thanks paul

It's so simple, you're going to kick yourself for not thinking of it first.

Don't burn, write, or Press any info to the disc.

This is the only form of copy protection that will work 100% of the time. All other copy protection and digital rights managements have a severe high rate of failure.

[presto]

And the award for reading the question fully and answering it simply goes to...

Johns0

[jimmalenko]

Please tell me everything i need to know about this to stop or slow people down who want to copy a disc i give them,dont ask me why or whatever just tell me how to do it .

Take out screwdriver.
Use flat or star end to scratch surface of said DVD.

That simple.


In all honesty it's a waste of time, and will only "slow down" people or catch out the NOOBest of the NOOBs. You might want to read this thread though, as the minute someone can't copy their disc, they google, end up here, and read this very thread seeing how you did it.

[thelandlord]

Thanks for advice,the people i want to stop copying them would not have a clue about looking on the net to solve problem,did the same with my vcd's and no one copied them,kept telling me something was up with the disc so just told em did'nt have a clue about it and they left it at that.

johns0,
Please could you explain in more detail as i've only been doing this dvd lark for 2 weeks and still learning,please mail me so these other sceptics cant be educated.

Thanks Paul

[drjtech]

Use one of these, and nobody will be able to copy your DVD:

Primera DS360



-drj

[Cobra]

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=223640

It's a sticky in the DVD Authoring forum, since so many people were asking this question. Think about it - if there was a way that you could protect your DVDs from being copied, don't you think that the big companies would have protected their DVDs long ago?

Basically, you can't do it. If it can be played, it can be copied.

[guns1inger]

no offence, but you have some dumb friends

[thelandlord]

Jesus,

I know if it can be played it can be copied,i want to make it so it is harder than just putting into nero and copying it.
I have just spent hours this morning busting some copyright protection on a disc, managed to do it with the last program i tried,it was'nt that simple and most people would have probably given up.

guns1inger,
No offence taken but i never said they were my friends.

[dvdguy4]

If you spent hours doing it then what would stop others from spending hours doing it also. Then again they can always come here and read up on how not to spend hours trying to beat copy protection just like everyone else has. There is no way of doing it. Sorry

[edu]

Thanks for advice,the people i want to stop copying them would not have a clue about looking on the net to solve problem,did the same with my vcd's and no one copied them,kept telling me something was up with the disc so just told em did'nt have a clue about it and they left it at that.

johns0,
Please could you explain in more detail as i've only been doing this dvd lark for 2 weeks and still learning,please mail me so these other sceptics cant be educated.

Thanks Paul

If you post question like that, you will notice there are only very few people who can hear you and/or respond accordingly. Like in other similar threads, you will see comments "if it can be played it can be copied." And "that it is impossible to do."

I know many people who can copy and paste unprotected data but who have no idea how to copy protected media. These are the same people who will NOT take another step if they cannot copy the disc. They will easily giveup and/or are just not interested to know how. And I know these are the same people you are talking about.

[Cobra]

Jesus,

Careful.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124514

[ROF]

The only reason I could see for copy protection on a disc is if you plan to profit from it's sales.

I quite sure your customers will not appreciate receiving a DVD with a nice visible scratch on it.

[SSJ4Thiran]

not technologically speaking but you can make them sign a contract. Or make it work that once the play the dvd they automatically agree to the terms and you just say copying is illegal etc... and if they do you........ SUE THEM..... XD its worth a try.

but besides that im sorry my friend...

[Cobra]

I quite sure your customers will not appreciate receiving a DVD with a nice visible scratch on it.

You might be able to do it artistically to minimise the impact. Maybe.

[guns1inger]

edu - the original post was

Please tell me everything i need to know about this to stop or slow people down who want to copy a disc i give them,dont ask me why or whatever just tell me how to do it .

I consider the fact that it is not a particularly good method part of the ''everything i need to know" section of the question.

[zworg2]

Please tell me everything i need to know about this to stop or slow people down who want to copy a disc i give them,dont ask me why or whatever just tell me how to do it .

Thanks paul

Does anyone EVER search these forums BEFORE asking questions that come up virtually every week????

Put simply - YOU CANT.

You can put scratches on it, or drill holes in blank vobs etc etc.

But just think if multi-million pound businesses cant do it, what makes you think you can?????

Even if you could, the protection would be broken and bypassed within about 2 days anyway. 8) 8)

Man.......

[thelandlord]

Have half you idiots that have replied to this read read my question,

FFS Listen and read slowly I KNOW IT CAN BE BYPASSED,MY QUESTION IS HOW DO I DO IT,I AM NOT BOTHERED THAT IT CAN BE BYPASSED,LISTEN AGAIN. I WANT TO KNOW HOW TO DO IT REPEAT HOW TO DO IT,not interested in anything else.

If it has been answered before with a good guide then please direct me to it as i cannot find it.

Oh and before some other idiot replies with it can be bypassed,then i think i know that by now,read the rest of thread before posting and tell me how to do it

Thanks

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning. Do not bash other users.
/ Moderator Cobra

[jimmalenko]

You STILL don't know ?

Have YOU read your OWN thread ?

[the * dude]

dudes

it seems he wants to place protection on his dvd like the one you buy... cause the people who he lends to won't know about dvd shrink.....?

hope this makes it clearer... :P

but, i wouldn't know how cause i don't belive in that sh*T...

sorry!

[GeorgeW]

The idea is to burn extra dummy information to your dvd (either at the front or at the end). DVD5's will burn from center towards the outer edges, so depending on where you put your dummy data will tell you where to put the scratch. Burn a 200mb test dvd, and notice how much space it takes up on your dvd (look at the bottom and you will see where it actually burns). That will be your "safe" area for placing the scratch (if adding the dummy data to the beginning of your dvd). Same process for the end of your dvd.

Then deliberately scratch that dummy area (with a pin or something). Be careful not to extend the scratch into the good section of your dvd, only scrath the dummy section of your dvd.

The scratch might slow or stop the folks you are targeting...

[dvdguy4]

Have half you idiots that have replied to this read read my question,

FFS Listen and read slowly I KNOW IT CAN BE BYPASSED,MY QUESTION IS HOW DO I DO IT,I AM NOT BOTHERED THAT IT CAN BE BYPASSED,LISTEN AGAIN. I WANT TO KNOW HOW TO DO IT REPEAT HOW TO DO IT,not interested in anything else.

If it has been answered before with a good guide then please direct me to it as i cannot find it.

Oh and before some other idiot replies with it can be bypassed,then i think i know that by now,read the rest of thread before posting and tell me how to do it

Thanks

What I want to know is its all right for you copy movies but not your friends. Doesnt sound so right. Dont need to be a jerk either.
The people here are trying to help you, not the other way around

[ROF]

The scratch might slow or stop the folks you are targeting...

Doesn't work. Most people with DVD burners know how to sign onto the internet. Info on how to fix a scratch or bypass this hap-hazard copy protection method is only a click away. You won't be slowing anyone down. Although you may have quite a few upset customers if you start selling scratched media. You are even setting yourself up for lawsuits by doing so since you are selling a product that is intentionally damaged and could potentially harm a customers player. A pin scratch on the media produces a raised edge on both sides of the scratch potentially causing the laser pickup to be struck by this edge thus causing the laser to become out of sync.

I'd recommend against this method of protection for so many reasons, especially if you intend to profit by selling damaged goods.

[alsyed]

commerical discs use the css and macrovision. Provided you have a key given to you by css, and you have an authoring package such as scenarist, that will burn a pre master, and then you take to a replicator that will burn the necessary encryption data, its pretty much limited to the silly ideas of scratching and putting holes in discs. Why would anyone drill a hole in a disc for? golly!


oh and by the way, once we have decided on the great way to stop people copying discs.... don't tell any one else about it... until we figure a way to crack it

heheheh

[SLK001]

Have half you idiots that have replied to this read read my question...

You're asking us the questions, then calling us idiots? Apparently, we aren't smart enough to solve your problem, so why don't you go out and solve it yourself, then tell us how to "copy protect" our disks.

You should probably be more careful about who you insult.