VirtualDUB and capturing through Firewire = Success !!

[vhelp]

OS: WIN 98 Gold
Capture Drivers: 1394; WDM; and now, VFW added.

Hi all.

I just did another test scenario. Only this time, using virtualdub.
(I didn't know it was a secret)

And, to my 2nd amazment, I can NOW capture through my Firewire cable
just as I can in AVI_IO yesterday.

Just a tadd bit of history here..

Yesterday, I had to do some digging around for some new Firewire drivers
for my WIN 98 Gold setup. I found various drivers from my good old
days of DV'ing around a year ago or so, still on my other HD's. (I also did
some searching around on the internet as well) Anyways.
.
Yeah, yesterday was a test w/ AVI_IO (as a huntch, really) and then today..

I'm not sure it my abilities were gifted through tweaking or hacking the above
drivers, or because avi_io and virtualDub now supports Firewire. But one thing is
for sure.., that I am now able to do ALL my DV capturing through:

* VirtualDUB v1.5.10
* avi_io

..and, with what I dreamed of most.., Segmentation whippy!!

I recall mentioning somewhere's here, a long time ago, about year or so, that I
had did some hacking of various drivers, and actually did get vdub to capture
thruogh Firewire. But, I guess no one believed me, or thought I just boasting
or something. But, I didn't care all that much anyways, cause I couldnt duplicate
it again.. till yesterday, when I did a bit of messing around some, w/ some
drivers and things. So, either I successfully hacking my firewire/capture drivers,
or these apps always had Firewire support. But then, no one seemed to admit it
here. So, I'm a bit at a loss at the moment. But who cares.., I got firewire
working again, and w/ segmentation. Yeah.

I haven't made up my mind as to which one I'll use now, but dreamed of tweaks
for DVIO is no longer necessary


I did a search for any reference to AVI_IO and vdub capturing through Firewire,
(cause I thought I read somewhere's here on vcdhelp) but I coudl not find any
reference to it.., not even Google. So, either I must be the first, and nobody
knows about it yet, or.. ** I'm Dreaming **

If any of you guys/gals are using vdub/avi_io in your firewire captures, where
have you all been ??

A Happy Cheery
-vhelp 8)

[gastorgrab]

I've always suspected that WebCamPC from Orange Micro would also work.

It provides a bridge between the FireWire WDM driver and the VFW interface.
I don't know at what resolution. (Might require some registry tweaking)

[vhelp]

I am not using WebCamPC.

I'm simply hooking up my firewire cable to my DV, and opening up either
avi_io or vdub and proceeding to the Capture area that those apps.

The screen is *NOT* in overlay mode. It is in Preview mode (more like a
4:2:2 space) but once Record or Capture is engaged, the video is fluid smooth
motion (not jerky) and audio is at 48k (avi_io, but vdub not tested yet for
audio) I'm working w/ vdub and audio now. Actually, I'm working in another
probject (USB streaming) Anyways, I'm very happy w/ my success.

-vhelp

[gastorgrab]

So is it a standard driver, or altered?

Does your PC still support storage devices? Some of the Non-Microsoft drivers had trouble with anything but video.

[vhelp]

Sorry for the delay..

No, it's not a standard driver. But, unfortunately I do not know which comboination
of files caused my success in using AVI_IO to transfer DV through Firewire.
.
I only know that it works, and works flawlessly.

And, FWIW I'm using an PCI firewire card, instead of my on-board one. I have
to set some jumpers and things, and plus I have to have the "optional" plug
for my mother board, which I don't have. So, that's why I opt to use a PCI
card instead.

I am working on a "driver installation" routine to share w/ everyone else here
that are under WIN 98 Gold, who want to use firewire w/ AVI_IO and VDUB
apps.
Including a set of files that they can D/L (so that they have all the files that
they need) But, I'm working on this - it's a slow process, because its not at
the top of my list of urgent things to do.
.
I'm also thinking that if I can accomplish this feat under WIN 98 then perhaps I can go a little further. Like incorporating the ability to use other
codec during the Firewire transfer (ie, Huffy or RGB, etc) I don't know if
this can be done.., but hay.., I got two apps known *not* to work w/ FW

So, who know..

Cheers,
-vhelp

[mikesbytes]

Doesn't VirtualDub not support firewire audio?

[vhelp]

virtualdub will support (open) audio from a DV source file as long as you
set up your Firewire Capture app to save as Type 2 format.

-vhelp