I HATE DVDR- (minus) .....

[Jumbo_Holden]

why does everyone like - for??? Ive been trying for the last hour to burn a DVD every - I try it spits it back out at me, ''error writing'' disc I try a + Perfect not a problem. Ive never had a + Dud on me ive had to bin about 20 odd -'s now........ i so hope - goes oboslete by xmas its a load of crap....

[dinobike]

i love minus -R
maybe your using a cheap media or no compatible brand with your machine....maybe..

[Jumbo_Holden]

i love minus -R
maybe your using a cheap media or no compatible brand with your machine....maybe..

Or maybe + are better 8) Ive tried 5 different brands of - tonite all spat back out at me, ive tried about 5 different brands of + in time aswell NEVER had one not burn perfect.. as soon as ive used up these -'s ive got now im only EVER buying +'s

[kenman]

I think the problem is between your desk and your chair

[Craig Tucker]

I think the problem is between your desk and your chair

[Jumbo_Holden]

ive had -'s work from time to time, but i find myself binning more of the packet than ive actully succesful writes with, I have a stock of both becuase my PC will do either my TV is + only, but if + doesn't become the standard than the human race are thick

[Craig Tucker]

The thing is, its not the format itself that is causing you the problem, DVD-R and DVD+R are both perfectly good and reliable formats for DVD creation. There are many reasons why a coaster could be produced these include bad media, operator error, hardware problems/incompatabilities and software problems/incompatabilities, but blaming it on the format itself is not a valid argument. Like you alluded to, if there were a problem with the DVD-R format do you really think so many people would use it.

[disturbed1]

Update your firmware.

Your computer specs say ATC 4x4x40 DVDR drive. Is this a BTC?

BTC had really poor DVD-R support in early firmware, but over time it did develope a bit better.


The fact that the drive "spat back out" indicates a media/hardware problem. And ''error writing'' is a generic code given when using unsupported media.

Brand doesn't mean much, it's who made the disc for that brand. You could of bought 6 different brands, 4 made by Princo, and 2 made by DVSN, both of which are poorly supported by most drives.

If you bought a poor grade of media, and set the write speed to 4x, the drive may only support writing to 2x/1x with that media.

DVD+R is lucky, since it isn't as popular yet, there aren't as many OEMs yet. 90% of what is out there are made by higher quality OEMs. Just this year have most OEMs decided to think about including DVD+R on the production line, some are still on the fence trying to decide.

Ricoh and CMC make the bulk majority of DVD+R media, which by all accounts seems to be high quality stuff. DVD-R has 10-15++ different OEM makers with only 4-6 being high quality and a couple of middle grade stuff. Without doing any research, picking a high quality DVD-R media can be a crap shoot.

But if DVD+R is working for you so well, and you don't have playback problems, don't worry about it

[tgm4883]

my TV is + only, but if + doesn't become the standard than the human race are thick

Great, now I have to not only worry if my DVD player plays + or -, but now I have to worry about if my TV plays + or - too!! Does anyone know when they will be comming out with a multi-format +- TV?

[lordsmurf]

I think the problem is between your desk and your chair

[xcool]

why does everyone like - for??? Ive been trying for the last hour to burn a DVD every - I try it spits it back out at me, ''error writing'' disc I try a + Perfect not a problem. Ive never had a + Dud on me ive had to bin about 20 odd -'s now........ i so hope - goes oboslete by xmas its a load of crap....

I completely agree with you. Dash R sucks. That is why I only have Plus R burners: HP 300e 4X, KHypermedia 8X. They work great with Memorex and Imation 4X +R media.

[SatStorm]

So, you hate DVD-R...
You know what that remind me: "blame Canada"...

[iooi]

A Person Is Smart The Public Are Stupid

Well as a PERSON who is SMART you will realise that the rest of US STUPID PUBLIC will keep the -R format alive as WE arnt having any problems with it....

[rhegedus]

why does everyone like - for??? Ive been trying for the last hour to burn a DVD every - I try it spits it back out at me, ''error writing'' disc I try a + Perfect not a problem. Ive never had a + Dud on me ive had to bin about 20 odd -'s now........ i so hope - goes oboslete by xmas its a load of crap....

Another day, another moron....

[kazz0817]

i prefer +

use what works for you, simply dont buy dvd-r's if u have no luck with um

[Jraf]

Never found problems with DVD+R

Found some problems with DVD-R

I prefer DVD+R

[Defcon]

I can see where this is GOING !!!


BTW DVD-R is the best

[sacajaweeda]

Which format holds more and is compatible with the most players?

[DeleriumMDK]

Haters. 3.5 inch floppy fans represent!

This format war crap is so pointless. "my format is better than yours". Get this...for some people the other format works as well, if not better.

[sacajaweeda]

The way I see it is....if it works for you, fine, bully for you and who really cares what format other people are using? It's not like either format stacks up compatibility-wise to a DVD-ROM. Anybody buying DVRr disc bootlegs is getting took, and most people selling stuff on DVDr are amateurs and rip-off artists.

[Stas]

For those who don't like "-" or "+" formats:

In Eastern Europe we are researching some new formats "*" and "/". Hope all of you should appreciate them!

[thor300]

Jumbo_holden, nice tv you got there, + only he? Your high technical skills has convinced me that if a tech-guru as YOU have problem with -R then it MUST be bad. I will buy a +R tv set also and make a big fire with -R's in front of the parliament to demonstrate how insane it is that we are not using + only. -R is for commies and nazis, hope NATO will invade someone if this -R madness doesnt stop very soon.

[D_Knife]

Stas
I really like the sound of that '*' format - but I gotta say the '/' format sounds a bit dodgy!!! :P

[jimmalenko]

I think the problem is between your desk and your chair

[mando]

I bout my Microwave in Germany, it plays “*” and my Oven in Spain, Play “/”.
That is the neat part, this media can be play in any appliance. But, Then, I try to connect them using a USB cable and I end up with a Wendy’s Sandwich Region # 1
I want a region free with no pickles

[fritzi93]

Stas
I really like the sound of that '*' format - but I gotta say the '/' format sounds a bit dodgy!!! :P

You're all wrong, the format will prevail.

[crusty]

why does everyone like - for??? Ive been trying for the last hour to burn a DVD every - I try it spits it back out at me, ''error writing'' disc I try a + Perfect not a problem. Ive never had a + Dud on me ive had to bin about 20 odd -'s now........ i so hope - goes oboslete by xmas its a load of crap....

I thought sheep were supposed to be the stupidest animals on Earth.....seems not.

[indolikaa]

Please, please! Allow Dr. Khan to offer his translation services free of charge!

why does everyone like - for??? Ive been trying for the last hour to burn a DVD every - I try it spits it back out at me, ''error writing'' disc I try a + Perfect not a problem. Ive never had a + Dud on me ive had to bin about 20 odd -'s now........ i so hope - goes oboslete by xmas its a load of crap....

Translation:
"I have an RCA VideoDisk player. And a Beta VCR. And a DAT recorder. And a Digital Compact Cassette. And a MiniDisc player. And my penis is bigger than yours. So there!"

You see? It was all so easy to understand.

[teegee420]

Very concise translation, though you forgot Phillips CD-I and 3DO Multiplayer among others.

[indolikaa]

Very concise translation, though you forgot Phillips CD-I and 3DO Multiplayer among others.

Yes, yes. You are correct. An oversight on my part, nothing more.