What's the best way to lower movie size ?

[Somebla]

I had a SVCD that I cuted the black edges, and now the movie is on a full screen.
But now the movie is 1,123,872 MB when the orignle movie is 832,342 MB.
So now I cant burn it because it's to big to get into a disc.

Whats the best way to chunk the movie as close to 832,342 MB ?

Thanks alot

[Ejoc]

800MB SVCD will fit on an 80minute/700MB CD... it just does so if all you need to do is drop like 32MB, I'd Demux your mpeg and lower the bitrate on your audio. then mux the orignal video and new audio together.

[Somebla]

no.. the 832,342 MB is how the movie was before i cuted the edges.
Now after their cutted it is - 1,123,872 MB.
So i need to get rid of at least 300 MB.

[Ejoc]

ok, you have to redo your encoding at a lower bitrate

[Conquest10]

yup, yup. the main thing is the bitrate. you will need to lower it to be able to fit it on a disc.

[poopyhead]

put those black bars back...

widescreen movies generally require smaller filesize because there are less pixels on the TV screen that needs bitrate...black pixels basically require next to nothing

if you have full screen, then almost every pixel in every frame requires bitrate to encode....this will dramatically increase your filesize

[LanEvo7]

Use VBR encoding.

[Cornucopia]

Yup,

Bitrate
VBR
ReEncode
ReEncode Audio

also...

Pre-process/NoiseReduce (will make reEncoding more efficient)
VBR Audio (if SVCD and you can get away with it)
Skip normal padding in sectors (can get into trouble with players)
OVERBURN (be careful here too)
90/99 min media (be careful here too)
do as 1 track XCD (Mode2Form2) (prob not playable except on computer)
Chop the titles/credits (watch for sync issues)
Split into 2 discs!

Scott

[Somebla]

Can you please explain me how to do so or reffer me to a guide.. i'm really new with all this bussines

Thanks again.

[Somebla]

umm.. can any one tell me with which program can i lower the bitrate for a SVCD ?

[BJ_M]

tmpgenc -

why not just use the original before you messed w/ it ?

[Somebla]

because i want the movie to be on the whole screen.

Can u tell me what to do with tmpgenc ?

thanks

[poopyhead]

because i want the movie to be on the whole screen.

that's your problem....making it full screen will degrade the quality no matter what...as now you've increased the number of pixels requiring bitrate.

[Somebla]

I know but i have a really small tv so i dont mind of the quality will drop a littel.

So can any one please explain my how to lower the bitrate (sorry for the bugging.. )

[BJ_M]

I know but i have a really small tv so i dont mind of the quality will drop a littel.

So can any one please explain my how to lower the bitrate (sorry for the bugging.. :| )

you DO realize that 10% of the image you see on your monitor will not show on your tv ... therefore the borders will not be as big on your tv ..

plus unless you have a widescreen tv - if you remove the borders - your aspect ratio goes to pot .. or you cut off a lot on the sides .

[Somebla]

you DO realize that 10% of the image you see on your monitor will not show on your tv ... therefore the borders will not be as big on your tv ..

I didnt know that... Why is that ? is it because it's in a SVCD format ?

plus unless you have a widescreen tv - if you remove the borders - your aspect ratio goes to pot .. or you cut off a lot on the sides .

I didnt understand you here...

Off the topic - are all the svcds movies with black borders ?

[Hardcoreruss]

No the black borders are part of the original file, they can be both vcd or svcd.

[Craig Tucker]

you DO realize that 10% of the image you see on your monitor will not show on your tv ... therefore the borders will not be as big on your tv ..

I didnt know that... Why is that ? is it because it's in a SVCD format ?

All tv's have an area of the picture which is not displayed, this is known as overscan. This has nothing to do with the format of disc being played.

plus unless you have a widescreen tv - if you remove the borders - your aspect ratio goes to pot .. or you cut off a lot on the sides .

I didnt understand you here...

If you remove the black borders top and bottom so that the picture fills a 4:3 aspect ratio TV then the picture will be vertically stretched. If you do not want picture distortion you need to leave the black bars where they are.

Off the topic - are all the svcds movies with black borders ?

The black borders have nothing to do with SVCD, it is to do with the aspect ratio of the movie. If you had an SVCD with a 4:3 aspect ratio there would be no black borders.

If you want the picture to fill the screen and have no verticle distortion you need to buy a widesreen TV set. Even then you may have narrow black bars depending on which widesceen aspect ratio has been used on a particular film.

[Hardcoreruss]

Simply....

1. Open tmpgenc
2. Load up wizard
3. Select Files
4. On the next screen will be bitrate, alter this, it will say this will make file 105% etc.. etc... of its original size continue lowering until the file is under 833mb.
5. Encode
6. Any probs post back.

[Somebla]

Ok.... now i get it.. So their is no way to get rid of the black borders only to buy widesreen TV ?

hardcoreruss, when i try to load it in tmpgenc i get a error:
"File "C:\......mpg\" can not open, or unsupported"
And i can see the movie so it cant be that it's corupped.

thanks every one

[funkguy4]

Get the newest version of TMPGEnc as it recently started to support loading of MPEG2 source files. Otherwise, frameserve from VirtualDub/FlaskMPEG.

[BJ_M]

Get the newest version of TMPGEnc as it recently started to support loading of MPEG2 source files. Otherwise, frameserve from VirtualDub/FlaskMPEG.

ALL versions of tmpgenc supported loading of mpeg2 files .. but on the other hand , virtualdub does not unless you use virtualdub mod.

the LATEST version of TMPGenc has a bit a of bug in it I noticed, going back a few versions or version is a good idea in this case ..

[funkguy4]

Ok, if you're sure, then my bad. :P