Dark secrets of vaccinations exposed

[rcc]

Listen to this audio presentation on dangers of vaccines.
You'll need Real Player to play it.

http://216.231.22.254:8080/ramgen/pclub/aug02/pclub0815.rm

[Greg12]

I was vaccinated as a kid, and I got sick a little from the MMR but u know what?


I"m immune to those diseases which r far worse.


Dont knock vaccines, they've saved millions of lives.

[rcc]

Why don't you tell it to this kid and to thousands of others in similar condition.

Terry is seven years old and stays alive with the help of a respirator and 24-hour nursing care. He can move his eyes and mouth but he can't move his head. Terry was left paralyzed by vaccine strain polio after swallowing live oral polio vaccine at nine weeks of age.




See Australian Vaccination Network
http://www.avn.org.au/

[rhegedus]

And would you like to take a guess at how many were left paralysed by polio because they weren't vaccinated?

When you've got over your righteous indignation, have a surf over to the UNICEF site http://www.unicef.org/polio/

In 2001, 575 million children were vaccinated in 94 countries, with two billion doses of oral polio vaccine during over 300 immunization activities.
The number of polio endemic countries fell from 20 in 2000 to 10 in 2001. The number of polio cases fell by more than 80 per cent, from 2979 to fewer than 500, and the geographic distribution of the wild poliovirus was significantly reduced in the remaining endemic countries.
35 million children were vaccinated in Afghanistan and Pakistan during two rounds of National Immuzation Days (NIDs) in the autumn of 2001 at the height of the difficulties. By focusing on cross-border areas, these NIDs helped dramatically reduce poliovirus transmission in these two countries.
In June 2002, 51 countries classified as the "EURO Region" were certified polio-free. They joined the Americas and the Western Pacific, which were certified polio-free in 1994 and 2000, respectively.
This means that half the planet is officially polio-free.

Regards,

Rob

[rcc]

LIES !!!
UNICEF is an evil, diabolical organization that's killing children worldwide via vaccines. They purposefully put viruses like AIDS, Ebola, etc. into vaccines. Do you research.

[rhegedus]

Put the crackpipe down....very slowly.....

[rcc]

UNICEF - ANTI-Life, ANTI-Family

http://www.lifesite.net/waronfamily/unicef/index.html#2

Following is substantial evidence to prove that UNICEF has become a very willing partner in the population control anti-child and anti-family programs of the U.N. Until recently, UNICEF was vehemently denying its involvement in contraception and abortion programs.

For years, UNICEF spokesmen denied promoting contraception or abortion. Now the records reveal the truth: step by step, over a 30-year period, UNICEF has tied itself to the population control, anti-life, anti-family attitude of such organizations as the International Planned Parenthood Federation.

http://www.lifesite.net/waronfamily/unicef/index.html#2

[Faustus]

uhm.... hrm... well.... err... nevermind. NO comment.

[bigmicka]

this argument on vaccination comes up from time to time.

there are rare cases when the vaccination can actually do more harm than good, but they are as i say RARE cases.

my sister nearly died after they gave her measels vaccination, why was this so? becuase our family has an immune deficiancy to this disease.

could the doctors tell that this would happen? no of course not.

they are not trying to conspire to kill young children with vaccinations, your claim that they are infecting children with the AIDS and Ebola are total crap.

here is a suggestion for you. go to your window, look outside and enjoy what you see. try to live your life to the fullest and dont believe everything you see and read.

mic

[Greg12]

Garenteed death from disease or possible death from vaccine.


I'll take my chances w/ the medicine

[Treebeard]

Garenteed death from disease or possible death from vaccine.


I'll take my chances w/ the medicine

Kind of like russian roulette with medicine.

Hey rcc, you ever listen to Michael Savage?

I'd like to see a conversation b/w you 2.

[rcc]

SLBOSS926: Yes, I do listen to Michael Savage and I agree with him.

[Treebeard]

I find the savage nation to be a very amusing show. and i probaly agree with about 50% of what he says. I think i like him the most for his absolute hatred of the leftist media and liberals of the government. Anyway you dont happen to know if you can listen to his show online do you?

[rcc]

Hi,

I was trying to listen to his show online, but I don't think it's possible.

However, you can listen to Alex Jones' show at www.infowars.com I find Alex Jones even better then Savage.

[MOVIEGEEK]

To rcc:
Unicef has been working on very real problems(hunger,poverty,sickness)
for 50 years and if that includes birth control I say more power to them.
Too many people and not enough resources=trouble.Look at the AIDS
crisis in Africa,we have Bono and other activists saying "it's the rich industrial countries fault"while people are having unprotected sex.
Give me a break!TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOU'RE ACTIONS.

Back to the topic.....look at the"peanut scare"we had here in the US a few
years ago,factories had to sterilize vats that had been used for peanuts
and products had to be packaged with warnings just because a small percentage of the population is allergic to Peanuts.

[rcc]

Did you listen to the show I posted ? There is strong evidence that suggests they are purposefully putting all kinds of viruses into vaccines with the goal to eliminate a lot of people. UN says we need to reduce population by 80-95%, it's right there in their official documents. These are facts.

[Treebeard]

Ill believe it when i see those docs

lets not be gullible

[Craig Tucker]

UN says we need to reduce population by 80-95%

Reduce world population by 95%

Lets see, world population is approx 6.5 billion, a 95% reduction leaves only 325 million people on the planet.

So unicef need to kill off 6.175 billion people by putting viruses into vaccines to meet these targets.

Do you think anyone will notice, I think questions might be asked.

[pacmania_2001]

I bet they were the bastards who killed Kennedy. That way they have one less person that needs to be killed through the poison that is vaccination. Of course everyone knows that vaccines were brought by the aliens who crashed at Roswell and has been enhanced by MIB scientists. All this of course is being funded by the secret dark global government who also funded September 11, started both World Wars and control the UN.

Yeh......... right

[rhegedus]

The so called 'killer vaccines' are rather selective, aren't they? You seem to think that they are only used in African countries (after all, you'd have a hard time explaining why millions of westerners haven't succumbed to the effects of these vaccines).

Perhaps this is the propaganda that African countries peddle out to explain why they cannot control their own problems despit billions of $ of aid annually.

There have been famines in Africa for as long as I can remeber. Not because there was no money to buy food, but because it was spent buying weapons to fight tin-pot wars or to subjugate the populace. It was left to the 'evil' western governments and aid agencies to feed the hungry. Remember Ethiopia in '84? It's happening all over again after nearly 20 years of foreign aid.

Look at the situation on Zimbabwe. A famine is approaching, not because there is no food, but because the white farmers who brought prosperity to the land have had their land confiscated buy the 'war veterans' - people who wouldn't know a plough from a potato. Guess who's going to have to feed them???

But back to vaccines. Has anyone actually intercepted a batch of vaccines intended for human use that have been found to contain these viruses? Nope - you just peddle the same tired anti-government crap that has been used by those unable to accept their own failures.

Just two more points:

1) Winnie Mandela (who organised the killing of 14 year old Stompie Seipei) once declared that AIDS does not exist, it was just a scare story to stop blacks having children.

2) There has been a dramatic rise in child rape in africa because of the belief that sex with a virgin will cure and prevent AIDS.

I think that just about sums up the warped thinking behind these 'dark secrets' claims.

Rob

[Craig Tucker]

UN says we need to reduce population by 80-95%

Reduce world population by 95%

Lets see, world population is approx 6.5 billion, a 95% reduction leaves only 325 million people on the planet.

So unicef need to kill off 6.175 billion people by putting viruses into vaccines to meet these targets.

Do you think anyone will notice, I think questions might be asked.

Just to put this in perspective for you,

Population of USA = 285 million
Population of UK = 60 million

Combined US and UK population = 345 million.

So if we left the USA and UK alone (don't be offended if you live somewhere else, just using this as an example, I dont think it will really happen ) and killed of every single person from every single country on the entire planet. We would still be overpopulated by 20 million.

What do you suggest now, wipe out a US state, or perhaps Scotland Wales and Norther Ireland and a few English counties. We might just get down to the required 325 million then.

[rcc]

Here is the thing. Most people won't die right away from vaccines, taht would be too obvious. This is how they do it. They put all kinds of viruses like cancer viruses that will cause you to get sick 3-4 years later. Nobody will suspect it's from vaccince. And btw there are cancer viruses in those vaccines. Did you know that nowadays 1 out of 3 people will get cancer ? Hm, I wonder why ? Do you know theer is rise in autism which is directly linked to vaccines ?

[Craig Tucker]

So are you saying there is a conspiracy to kill over 6 billion people with vaccines. If so, you really are an IDIOT.

[pacmania_2001]

Having had cancer myself and knowing alot of people still suffering from the disease as well as working closely with doctors and specialists in the field I know for a fact your allegations are unjustly false.

I wont go into extreme details but here are just a few points:

1) There is no such thing as a cancer virus, it is naturally occuring and happens at the gene based level of human anatomy. Certain factors cause it the risk of developing cancer to grow but vaccination is not one of them.

Take my brother and I, both have been vaccinated (for the same diseases), both of us have lived nearly the same lifes (i.e location, education etc). Yet it seems that only I was the one who developed cancer

2) In a developed country such as Australia an estimated 80-90% of newborns/young children are vaccinated. For your crackpot theory to hold any value, virtually all of these would have to die or develop terminal diseases to meet your "global governments' agenda of slashing the population by 80-95%

3)

Did you know that nowadays 1 out of 3 people will get cancer ?

Did you know that the majority of cancer patients have an 80% survival chance compared to Polio cases were the survival rate was less than 25%
It seems to me if this so called 'agenda' were to take place they would choose a more deadly virus (most likely one that exists unlike cancer) to use.

4)

They put all kinds of viruses like cancer viruses that will cause you to get sick 3-4 years later.

Thats strange then, because I got most of my vaccinations before the age of 2, therefore according to your 'theory' I should have developed a 'disease' around the age of 5 or 6, yet I wasnt diagnosed with cancer until I was 10. A full 4 years too late. Also as mentioned above 80-90% of the population arent developing any illness/disease when they are 5-6 or whenever.

[rhegedus]

There are a few viruses that can predispose (but not necessarily cause) individuals to cancer: HPV, EBV, SV40, some adenoviridae, CMV and Hep B. But the proportion of cancers attributable to these viruses is less than 1%.

If 1 in 3 of the population are diagnosed as having cancer at some point, then 1 in 300 of the population will have a virus as part of their cancer aetiology.

Given that vaccination rates in developed countries are 90%+, oncogenic viruses are not the cause of cancers of 1 in 3 of the population. The main cause of cancer in the general population is oncogenic chemicals within cigarettes: 1 in 3 of the population smoke, 1 in 3 of the population will get cancer. Just go and do a search on 'Richard Doll' to get the full details.

Viruses are parasites. They need a live host in order to survive, or can remain dormant under cryogenic conditions. Either way, they are not going to survive in an ampoule or syringe that's kept in the fridge or on the shelf. There are ‘live attenuated vaccines’, but the manufacturing process that allows them to survive also reduces their virulence.

So, your assertion that vaccination with viruses is the cause of cancer within the population is really laughable. In fact, my girlfriend who did her MD PhD in virus immunology is still laughing, an hour after reading your post.

As for the link between MMR and autism, read:

BMJ 2002;325:419-421 ( 24 August )
Relation of childhood gastrointestinal disorders to autism: nested case-control study using data from the UK General Practice Research Database

BMJ 2002;324:393-396 ( 16 February )
Measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination and bowel problems or developmental regression in children with autism: population study

BMJ 2001;322:460-463 ( 24 February )
Mumps, measles, and rubella vaccine and the incidence of autism recorded by general practitioners: a time trend analysis

Conclusion: there is no link.

Rob

[rcc]

Craig Tucker: Don't get mad at me. I'm not the one who wants to kill 6 billion people. Go and read the official UN documents.

[rhegedus]

Could you post a link to the official UN documents?

Rob

[rcc]

http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=6416

The U.N. New World Order Globalization
by Anton Chaitkin

ROCKFELLER AND MASS MURDER

The Rockefeller Foundation is the prime sponsor of public relations for the United Nations' drastic depopulation program, which the world is invited to accept at the UN's scheduled September conference in Cairo, Egypt. Evidence in the possession of a growing number of researchers in America, England, and Germany demonstrates that the Foundation and its corporate, medical, and political associates organized the racial mass murder program of Nazi Germany. ...

[Craig Tucker]

Yea that really looks like an official UN document, and where in there does it say that the world population has to be reduced by 85-95%

[rcc]

OK, i can't find it on the UN WEb site, but I have many sources who have read official UN documents confirming that thats their plan. You may not believe, but it'll be your loss. At least I'm trying to warn people.

If you really are interested in this subject get the tapes from this Web site;

http://www.discerningtoday.org/