DVD Shrink help??

[TONYHAMILTON]

Ive got a music DVD that is 7.92 GB in size and in the relevent files for putting onto a blank dvd,so Ive tried to shrink it with DVD Shrink but cant get it down to a small enough size for it to fit onto a blank DVD.Ive tried altering the settings in DVD Shrink but nothing has worked out yet!!
So other than DVD Shrink is there any other way of getting it small wnough to fit onto a blank DVD??

[redwudz]

Try DVD Rebuilder.

And welcome to our forums.

[NiteLite]

TONYHAMILTON, yes, welcome to VH.
Just curious. What is the compression ratio when you first load the 7.92gb file into DVDShrink?
Thanks,
NL

[Ai Haibara]

I may be wrong, but I've heard that DVD Shrink only really works on video and doesn't do much with audio... which, in this case, is probably 90-95 percent of the DVD, and why you're unable to get much compression out of Shrink.

There was a post on this topic recently, but I haven't been able to find it, yet. I think you may end up having to compress the music differently (is it using uncompressed PCM?) and re-author everything.

[guns1inger]

Shrink can only remove unwanted audio streams, but it does not recompress them. Unless the disc is basically all audio, and uncompressed PCM at that, with minimal, low bitrate still images as accompaniment, it is unlikely to be more than 15% audio. That said, it is not unheard of for Shrink to be unable to compress a disc in the first pass. This is due to the fact that Shrink does not re-encode the images, but simply tries to remove un-needed data from the existing video stream. Depending on how the video was encoded in the first place, Shrink may simply not be able to find enough data to remove on the first pass. Usually, if this happens, loading the compressed version into Shrink and processing it again will get you down to the right size, but at a cost to the quality of the original image.

I would take Redwudz' suggestion and use DVD Rebuilder in this instance.

[steptoe]

I use DVD-RB Pro, but do still use DVD Shrink for quick basic cutting of the source before passing it onto DVD-RB Pro, and DVD-RB is still available in a true freeware version with free video encoders, it shoudl easily do want you what you want but be aware its very CPU intensive as it basically rebuilds the source video from scratch to match the bitrate and not what transcoders do and strip what they 'think' is unwanted bitrate

Thats how they get speed compared to rebuilding the video, it takes a lot longer all depending on your CPU, but the results will be much better


All it will cost you is time, as all the tools are freeware, including the software to burn the DVD after, none of them are 'free' trial limited versions but true freeware

[jman98]

I may be wrong, but I've heard that DVD Shrink only really works on video and doesn't do much with audio... which, in this case, is probably 90-95 percent of the DVD, and why you're unable to get much compression out of Shrink.

There was a post on this topic recently, but I haven't been able to find it, yet. I think you may end up having to compress the music differently (is it using uncompressed PCM?) and re-author everything.

Yes, DVD Shrink only compresses video. NONE of the "one touch" compression tools, NONE of them, compress audio, so there is not unusual in that. You are wrong in thinking this is the
problem. It doesn't matter what format the audio is in. You could compress the video to 100 Mbps, which is absolutely horrible, if you had to in order to make it fit. No, something else is going on. Either the original poster is not using DVD Shrink correctly or perhaps there are some extra files in directories other than VIDEO_TS that they are also trying to copy and that's the real problem - DVD Shrink is doing it's job, but the extra files are the problem.

90-95 of the DVD is NOT audio if this is a normal DVD video disc. Audio just doesn't take up as much space as you think it does. You'd have to be dealing with DVD Audio and its various audio formats that aren't supported on DVD video for that statement to be true.

[jman98]

Tonyhamilton - I suppose I should ask because newbies always seem to leave out critical information that they think doesn't matter but in fact does matter a lot. By any chance are you talking about a DVD Audio disc? Because if you are, DVD Shrink will NEVER help you. There are no tools to shrink DVD Audio format discs.

[Ai Haibara]

When the OP said "Ive got a music DVD...", I basically figured that it most likely was a DVD-Audio disc, yes, or another format (such as still images to accompany the music (yes, I'll admit I haven't looked into DVD-Audio format discs, either )) with which the music would still take up most of the disc. I didn't see Shrink as a problem, just something that wouldn't help as much in this case if indeed, it didn't do much to compress the audio.

Now, if it's a music video DVD...

[t0nee1]

Maybe the OP should clear up what he means by "Ive got a music DVD that is 7.92 GB in size and in the relevent files for putting onto a blank DVD.
because yes if music DVD video ,DVDRB as suggested or better yet IMO, DVDFab Platinum as it will shrink to a default of approx 4300mb..

[TONYHAMILTON]

Thanks for the help so far the DVD in question is just the normal music one thats usually a bands greatest hits is one ive downloaded and having problems with

[TONYHAMILTON]

TONYHAMILTON, yes, welcome to VH.
Just curious. What is the compression ratio when you first load the 7.92gb file into DVDShrink?
Thanks,
NL

NL The compression setting when I load my dvd files in is set for AUTOMATIC

[wulf109]

DVD2ONE can compress more than DVD Shrink. You should de-select any audio streams you can live without.

[Bjs]

When it loads in dvdshrink , take a look at the audio type included for titles, and size and tell us .

There is no need to dump audio if it dose not need to be done but getting to this point will take a little time .

Tool's :

Pgcdemux - demux both video and audio for each music title by id
Besweet - convert audio > ac3 2 channel , 112kbps (no lower than 64kpbs)
Rejig - to regenerate each music clip (video / audio) back , suitable for next area
Vobblanker - replacement of titles with new title

Been there already , and guide for creating such things located : https://forum.videohelp.com/topic270620.html