burning fail

[funnybunny]

I sometimes get burning errors when I burned DVD+R, and I don't know why. And I've been trying to burn DVD-R, and it all fails! And today I tried to burn a DVD-R again, and it failed again, and here's my history log from Nero.

22.7.2006
ISO compilation
4:19:50 PM	#1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6029
	Iso document burn settings
	------------------------------------------
	Determine maximum speed : FALSE
	Simulate                : FALSE
	Write                   : TRUE
	Finalize CD             : TRUE
	Multisession            : FALSE
	Burning mode            : DAO
	Mode                    : 1
	ISO Level               : 2 (Max. of 31 chars)
	Character set           : ISO 9660
	Joliet                  : TRUE
	Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
	Allow more than 255 characters in path  : TRUE
	Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions        : TRUE
	
4:19:51 PM	#2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
	Reader running
	
4:19:51 PM	#3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
	Writer DVDRW    IDE 16X          running
	
4:19:51 PM	#4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
	First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
	
4:19:51 PM	#5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101
	Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media
	
4:19:51 PM	#6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240
	Last possible write address on media:  2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
	Last address to be written:            2110703 (469:02.53, 4122MB)
	
4:19:51 PM	#7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
	Write in overburning mode: FALSE
	
4:19:51 PM	#8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085
	Recorder: DVDRW IDE 16X, Media type: DVD-R
	 Disc Manufacturer: TYG02 - 
	 Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
	
4:19:51 PM	#9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406
	>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
	=========================================
	
4:19:51 PM	#10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 779
	Setup items (after recorder preparation)
	 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
	    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
	    original disc pos #0 + 2110704 (2110704) = #2110704/469:2.54
	    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos 
	    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2110704 blocks [DVDRW    IDE 16X         ]
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
4:19:51 PM	#11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 948
	Prepare recorder [DVDRW    IDE 16X         ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
	DAO infos:
	==========
	 MCN: ""
	 TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
	 Tracks 1 to 1:
	   1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos             0             0    4322721792, ISRC ""
	DAO layout:
	===========
	 __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
	       0 |  lead-in |   0 |   0x00 |  0x41
	       0 |        1 |   0 |   0x00 |  0x41
	       0 |        1 |   1 |   0x00 |  0x41
	 2110704 | lead-out |   1 |   0x00 |  0x41
	
4:19:51 PM	#12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
	Caching of files started
	
4:19:51 PM	#13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4073
	Cache writing successful.
	
4:19:51 PM	#14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
	Caching of files completed
	
4:19:51 PM	#15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
	Burn process started at 8x (11,040 KB/s)
	
4:19:51 PM	#16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264
	Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
4:19:51 PM	#17 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
	Set remaining time: 13:06,949 (786949ms) -> OK
	
4:19:51 PM	#18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1512
	Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
	
4:19:51 PM	#19 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19451
	Set BUFE: Super Link -> ON 
	
4:19:51 PM	#20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1643
	Start write address at LBA 0
	DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
	
4:19:51 PM	#21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7941
	---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
	Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
	 Book Type: DVD-R   (2), Part Version: 5
	 Disc Size: 120 mm,      Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
	 Number of Layers: 1,    Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP),  Layer Type: recordable
	 Linear Density:         0,267 um/bit,  Track Density:  0,74 um/track
	 Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
	 End Physical Sector Number of Data Area:      0 h
	 End Sector Number in Layer 0:                 0 h
	 Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
	 Media Specific:
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	      00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	
4:20:01 PM	#22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1277
	16:20:01.781 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H1 T1 : Queue again later
	
5:11:35 PM	#23 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1431
	SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x02C80000
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
	Sense Code: 0x0C
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	CDB Data:   0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x10 0xF1 0x40 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00 
	
5:11:35 PM	#24 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 301
	Write error
	
5:11:35 PM	#25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
	all writers idle, stopping conversion
	
5:11:35 PM	#26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
	conversion idle, stopping reader
	
5:11:35 PM	#27 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1847
	EndDAO: Last written address was 1110335
	
5:11:35 PM	#28 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
	Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
	
5:11:35 PM	#29 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
	Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
	
5:11:35 PM	#30 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
	Burn process failed at 8x (11,040 KB/s)
	

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002) built by: WinDDK, size=16512 bytes, created 11/20/2005 10:48:21 PM 
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 4/25/2005 2:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=?.?.?.?, size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 10:59:42 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option) 

====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======

Please help me to solve this problem. I'm so frustrating already~

[kschang]

1) Update Nero. They have a bazillion different updates

2) Update DVD burner's firmware, if applicable.

3) Try slower burn speed.

4) Get better media, or use DVD-RW until you can be sure everything's dandy.

[cantckaja]

i used to use maxells and they never worked. i was all ready to buy a new burner but instead i tried sony and i have never had a problem since

[VegasBud]

funnybunny,

The ATAPI error code you're getting (030C00) suggests one or more of the following as sources of the error:
1) DMA not enabled
2) disk problem
3) drive (burner) problem
Let's check them out, one at a time.

1) DMA
I can't help but notice that the burn started at 4:20 PM and the error came up at 5:11 PM. That is waaaaay to long for a TYG02, and suggests that you may, in fact, be trying to burn in PIO mode. Here's how you would check that:

• Right click on [My Computer] and select [Properties] from the menu. Click [Device Manager] on the [Hardware] tab, then click to open the [IDE ATA/ATAPI (hard disk) controllers] section. You will find the Primary IDE Channel controller, Secondary IDE Channel controller. Complete the following procedure:
  
  1. Right click on the Primary IDE controller and select [Properties] from the menu.
  2. Select the [Advanced Settings] tab. Check that the [Transfer Mode] for both devices is set to [DMA if available].
  3. Repeat this for Secondary IDE controller.

2) Disk
The Taiyo Yuden disk you used (a TYG02) is highly rated, and is what I (and many others) use all the time, with great result. The only way one of those disks would fail is if there was something, like a fingerprint, on the data side. If it's clean, we can rule out the disk as being the problem. (At least I've never had a burn fail because of a faulty TYG02.)

3) Drive
If DMA is enabled, and the disk you used was clean, that just leaves the drive or the software. The last step, just to make sure it's the drive, would be to check for a software error by using the freeware program ImgBurn to burn an ISO of whatever it is you're working with. If you get a good burn with ImgBurn, then it's probably not the drive. If the burn with ImgBurn fails, about all that's left is a bad drive.

[funnybunny]

1) Update Nero. They have a bazillion different updates

2) Update DVD burner's firmware, if applicable.

3) Try slower burn speed.

4) Get better media, or use DVD-RW until you can be sure everything's dandy.

I'm doing Nero 6 Ultra Edition (v6.3). I don't update nero because Nero 7 sucks, like everything I burn fails.

My dvd burner's firmware is already updated.

Slowing burn speed don't work.

I think that left me the last option.

[funnybunny]

funnybunny,

The ATAPI error code you're getting (030C00) suggests one or more of the following as sources of the error:
1) DMA not enabled
2) disk problem
3) drive (burner) problem
Let's check them out, one at a time.

1) DMA
I can't help but notice that the burn started at 4:20 PM and the error came up at 5:11 PM. That is waaaaay to long for a TYG02, and suggests that you may, in fact, be trying to burn in PIO mode. Here's how you would check that:

• Right click on [My Computer] and select [Properties] from the menu. Click [Device Manager] on the [Hardware] tab, then click to open the [IDE ATA/ATAPI (hard disk) controllers] section. You will find the Primary IDE Channel controller, Secondary IDE Channel controller. Complete the following procedure:
  
  1. Right click on the Primary IDE controller and select [Properties] from the menu.
  2. Select the [Advanced Settings] tab. Check that the [Transfer Mode] for both devices is set to [DMA if available].
  3. Repeat this for Secondary IDE controller.

2) Disk
The Taiyo Yuden disk you used (a TYG02) is highly rated, and is what I (and many others) use all the time, with great result. The only way one of those disks would fail is if there was something, like a fingerprint, on the data side. If it's clean, we can rule out the disk as being the problem. (At least I've never had a burn fail because of a faulty TYG02.)

3) Drive
If DMA is enabled, and the disk you used was clean, that just leaves the drive or the software. The last step, just to make sure it's the drive, would be to check for a software error by using the freeware program ImgBurn to burn an ISO of whatever it is you're working with. If you get a good burn with ImgBurn, then it's probably not the drive. If the burn with ImgBurn fails, about all that's left is a bad drive.

All my DMA is enabled, and the disk is clean. My drive could burn DVD+R, and I think it supports DVD-R too. I think my drive is Emprex 16x Double Layer DVD±RW IDE Internal Drive. So I don't think it's my drive's problem. And I wasn't trying to burn a DVD that plays in the stand alone dvd player, I was trying to burn a data DVD. Does that ImgBurn only burn image?

[VegasBud]

Does that ImgBurn only burn image?

Yes, it does only burn an ISO image. Since you're working with data, not dvd-video, the best way to make an ISO would be to use the freeware program Folder2Iso to create the ISO, then feed it to ImgBurn.

If the burn with ImgBurn works, at this point it would appear that Nero is having a problem. If the ImgBurn burn fails, about the only thing that's left is the drive. Since you already checked the firmware, that pretty much leaves just the drive hardware itself. Is the drive new, or old?

Do you have a guess as to why it was 51 minutes from the time the burn started until the error was reported? A 16x burner with TYG02 shouldn't take anywhere near that long.

[funnybunny]

is there a way to watch dvd iso with a stand alone dvd player?

[VegasBud]

is there a way to watch dvd iso with a stand alone dvd player?

Since an ISO is just an image of the disk before burning, using something like ImgBurn will create the actual disk, and if it's a dvd-video disk, it should play in a stand alone player. If it's a data disk that has video on it, then it depends on the capabilities of the player, and the format of the files.

[funnybunny]

I'm trying to burn a data dvd that contains rm files. Now I've converted them into ISO, so I couldn't play it on stand alone player (mixSonic MS888)? And what you're saying is that I've to convert these rm files into DVD in order to play it on dvd player? So this ImgBurn is like Nero's DVD ISO in the Nero Burning Rom, it just that ImgBurn do not have the drag-and-drop option like Nero, but requires to turn the files I want to burn into ISO before burning Data DVD?

[funnybunny]

Do you have a guess as to why it was 51 minutes from the time the burn started until the error was reported? A 16x burner with TYG02 shouldn't take anywhere near that long.

I don't know, my computer always takes forever to burn a dvd (dvd-video and date). Is there a way I can check?

[kschang]

An 8x burner, even if only achieving 6x throughput, should take maybe, 10 minutes to fully burn a DVD. 51 minutes is excessive.

First, make sure you are using 80-conductor Ultra ATA cable.

Second, make sure DMA mode is enabled / auto in the BIOS.

Third, open device manager, click on primary / secondary controller, and check properties, advance, and make sure it's on Ultra DMA (something) instead of PIO. If it says PIO, that would explain the problem.

[funnybunny]

Under Secondary IDE Channel, Device 1's Current Transfer Mode is PIO mode, and it's in grey so that I couldn't change it. Do I need to change that btw? No wonder it's so slow.

[Ai Haibara]

I'm trying to burn a data dvd that contains rm files. Now I've converted them into ISO, so I couldn't play it on stand alone player (mixSonic MS888)? And what you're saying is that I've to convert these rm files into DVD in order to play it on dvd player?

Does that DVD player support playback of RealMedia files? I haven't heard of any that do. Chances are, if you want to watch the .rm files on your stand-alone player, you'll have to:

1. Convert them to DVD-format video and author a DVD video disc, or
2. Convert the .rm files to DivX/Xvid AVIs or MPEGs, assuming your player can play those directly from a data disc. Some players also support MP4 videos, now.

[guns1inger]

Delete that channel from the Device Manager and reboot. Windows will reinstall it, and the devices connected to it. If the devices are OK, it should set everything to DMA. If it doesn't, delete it again and shutdown. Make sure all the drive cables are seated properly in the drives and the motherboard. Restart and check again. If it still doesn't come up, replace the IDE cable that it attaches to. Delete, restart, test.

I had a similar problem with a drive that would drop back to PIO mode periodically for no good reason. It only started after I upgraded the box and put a new motherboard in. Drove me nuts. Replaced the cables, but still it would just drop back to PIO on a whim. Eventually, for other reasons, I replaced the 0GB HDD on the same IDE channel with a new 160GB drive, and the problem went away. The errors were being generated by the old HDD, but Windows was attributing them to the DVD drive instead.

There is a small program on the Dell site called PIOtoDMA. It will only work for optical devices that are device one on IDE channel two. It will reset it to DMA on the fly, without the need to delete and restart. I used this for a while when I couldn't resolve my problem any other way.

[funnybunny]

I can't install back my IDE channels: the primary and the secondary. It keeps on showing me this!


I'm in deep trouble, I don't know how to install it back, help please! I did put in the Drivers and Utilities cd, but can't help.

[budz]

You were suppose to only delete the ide channel that your dvd burner is attached to. Which is why you now have that error message. Shut down the pc and open up your computer and unhook the ide cable from your dvd burner then hook it up again then start your pc. Hopefully that will help your situation. If not then try rolling back windows xp by restoring it to a earlier date. If all fails then you may have to reinstall windows xp.

[VegasBud]

Be calm. If you start thrashing around you could make things worse.

First, try to roll back your driver(s).
Click Start - Control Panel and double click System.
In the window that pops up select the Hardware tab, and click on Device Manager.
Expand the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers category.
For the primary and secondary ide channels:
Double click the channel
In the window that pops up, select the Drivers tab
Click the Roll Back Driver button.

[funnybunny]

Can't rollback. This is what I'm getting.
And how do I

unhook the ide cable from your dvd burner then hook it up again

, cuz I'm using an internal dvd writer. [/code]

[budz]

open up your computer and remove the ide cable from your dvd burner. then attach the ide cable again to your dvd burner. then restart your pc.

[VegasBud]

The next least dangerous thing to do is revert to a previous restore point.

Click Start - All Programs - Accessories - System Tools - System Restore
The "Restore my computer to an earlier time" option will be selected, so just click Next.
Pick the closest previous restore point on the calendar and click Next.
You can read that screen that comes up if you want, but click Next to start the Restore process.

[rocknroll_1950]

i've found re-installing windows over your current installation has worked for my failed burns. they would always get to 10% then fail.

oO ELVIS Oo

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Do you have Daemon Tools installed by any chance? (or Alcohol 120%?)

It used to cause this error with reinstalling IDE channels / controls due to it locking the atapi.sys file.

New versions of the tool do not have this problem.

[VegasBud]

It's kind of considered polite to welcome someone after their first post here, so...

Welcome to VideoHelp, LIGHTNING UK!. I've very much enjoyed your work for quite some time.

[funnybunny]

Do you have Daemon Tools installed by any chance? (or Alcohol 120%?)

It used to cause this error with reinstalling IDE channels / controls due to it locking the atapi.sys file.

New versions of the tool do not have this problem.

I have Daemon Tools installed and Alcohol 120% too. Am I suppose to upgrade them? so that the burning problem could be fixed?

[guns1inger]

If they are buggy versions then it might be a good idea to upgrade them, or uninstall them until you have the issue resolved.

[VegasBud]

I have Daemon Tools installed and Alcohol 120% too. Am I suppose to upgrade them?

No, they are most likely the reason you can't reinstall the IDE channel. If you uninstall them, then reboot, the IDE channel should install correctly. Once the IDE channel is back, you can re-install them if you like.

Once you have the IDE channel back, check to see if the drives are now in DMA and not PIO, or can now be set to DMA. If you forgot how, refer back to my first post in this thread. If they're all in DMA mode then your original burning problem will likely be solved, so you should try another burn.

If, the drives aren't in DMA, and can't be changed to DMA, the easiest (and safest) solution to the PIO mode problem is to go to this page. Near the top, where it says "Quick solution" click where it says "Click here". It will run a visual basic script that will make changes in the registry to re-enable DMA.