No sound in TMGenc

[deanst2]

This hasn't happened before with this program. I have Window XP and TMGenc plus 2.5. After I encoded the avi to mpeg and tried to play it, there was no sound. Did I screw up a setting somewhere?
I've read the available guides but didn't come up with anything.
Thanks for any input.

[johns0]

This question has been asked about 10,000 times in the last week,if you did a search you would of found an answer,what you need to do is open the avi with virtualdub and save wav in audio full processing mode and then use the outputted wav as your audio source in tmpgenc and encode again.

[deanst2]

Sorry. I did read other articles. The question is why do i have to do that?
I've used TMGenc many before without this problem. I can play the avi. fine and it has sound. What is happenening in the encoding process that I am losing sound?

[canadateck]

I quess Tmpgenc does not like the sound in the file, Like johns0 said save it to Wav.

[deanst2]

Right now I have a .m2v file and a wave file; I can use TMGenc DVD authoring program to just combine them??

[canadateck]

Go into Mpeg tools and Mux them.

[bazooka]

Sorry. I did read other articles. The question is why do i have to do that?

The sound engine in TMPGenc is not that good. I usually convert to wav using virtualdub and then use lame mp3 and toolame to encode the audio.

TMPGEnc also does not handle variable bitrate mp3 very well either.

[ZippyP.]

Right now I have a .m2v file and a wave file; I can use TMGenc DVD authoring program to just combine them??

Yes you can as long as they will fit on a DVD. Wav is acceptable for DVD but usually people will use AC3 or MP2 as it leaves more room for the video. AC3 is more acceptable than MP2 on DVD if you are in NTSC-land. You can use ffmpeggui to convert the audio directly from your avi to AC3, free and fast.

[jimmalenko]

After I encoded the avi to mpeg and tried to play it, there was no sound.

Right now I have a .m2v file and a wave file

Which one did you try to play ?

[ZippyP.]

Which one did you try to play ?

Are you thinking what I'm thinking? (My M2V has no sound.)

[deanst2]

This is all good info. I know I sound retarded but this is complicated at first! I haven't done this before.

Once I use ffmpeggui to create an AC3 file - is it tricky to then use TMGenc dvd authoring software to combine them?

[jimmalenko]

Which one did you try to play ?

Are you thinking what I'm thinking? (My M2V has no sound.)

I think so ...

[ZippyP.]

Once I use ffmpeggui to create an AC3 file - is it tricky to then use TMGenc dvd authoring software to combine them?

No, it's very simple. Select Create new project then Add file and select your mv2. When the Add Clip window opens make sure you have your AC3 file in the audio settings box.

[deanst2]

jimmalenko,
What are you thinking?

[jimmalenko]

I'm thinking that you had no sound because you double-clicked on the M2V file. If you double-click on the WAV file, I bet you'll have sound

[deanst2]

Actually, I did double click the wav file....no dice.

[jimmalenko]

Well, if you're not getting any sound from the WAV (and I'm assuming that the obvious things like speakers are turned on, no mute buttons pressed, volumes are turned to an acceptable level) have all been checked, then there's not much point progressing on any further until you sort out the audio issue. Can you upload a GSPot screen dump of your AVI ? It sounds to me (and the others) like you've got MP3 VBR audio.

[deanst2]

As you know with TMGenc I can select audio - variable vs. constant, mpeg2, PCM linear etc. with dvd, I thought the selection of mpeg 2 was proper setting. If I select incorrect one it should still produce some sound, shouldn't it??

[jimmalenko]

As you know with TMGenc I can select audio - variable vs. constant, mpeg2, PCM linear etc. with dvd, I thought the selection of mpeg 2 was proper setting. If I select incorrect one it should still produce some sound, shouldn't it??

My apologies, but that doesn't make much sense to me at all

Perhaps you could try my guide http://members.dodo.net.au/~jimmalenko/AVI2DVD.htm and see how you go, then if you have any specific questions about a particular process, ask and quote which bit you're having issues with.

[deanst2]

sorry
I will read your guide and see if I can ask a more intelligent question.

[jimmalenko]

sorry
I will read your guide and see if I can ask a more intelligent question.

No problem, mate, just a bit hard to work out where you're at, that's all

[deanst2]

When selecting stream type....does it matter whether I am selecting ES or System?

[jimmalenko]

ES will give give you two files - a M2V one for the video and one for the audio. System will give you one MPEG file with both these streams combined. I believe the guide tells you to choose ES (Video only), does it not ?

[deanst2]

Yes it does but at present I have been trying to do it without separating out audio....I do not have good program for this yet.

[jimmalenko]

The whole point of doing both separately is that TMPGEnc can struggle with certain types of audio as source - MP3 VBR being one of them. So you just use TMPGEnc to create the video, then ffmpeggui to create the audio. Most decent authoring programs will accept separate files. But if you need to join them, you can use TMPGEnc's MPEG Tools to create one MPEG file.

[deanst2]

Jim,
How important is the bit rate calculator in all of this?

[jimmalenko]

Jim,
How important is the bit rate calculator in all of this?

Very. It tells you what bitrate you need to use in order to hit a given size. For most of us, this given size is either a DVD's capacity or a CD's capacity. Naturally we wan tto use a bitrate that fills up most of the disc in order to give us the best quality-to-size that we can possibly get.

[deanst2]

Thanks. I successfully was able to create the DVD using your guide. Why when selecting the stream type do you choose ES video only instead of System video only.

[jimmalenko]

If you select System (Video only) it will output an MPEG file that just has video, whereas this way outputs an M2V file. Certain authoring apps require elementary streams, and all good authoring apps accept elementary streams also.

[deanst2]

Jim, in your guide, you recommend a "fast" setting for the motion search precision; another quide recommended very slow(highest quality). Why the disparity??