TMPGEnc VS Encore DVD

[I J Walton]

Howdy, I have been using TMPGEnc for a few days now trying to get the best picture quality (especially on moving objects). I resorted to using the best possible seting at the expence of file size and still there was a little block noise on certain moving objects.

Anyway, after almost giving up on putting my films onto DVD (because of this discusting blocky noise even at 9500Kb's/sec!!) I decided to give Adobe's Encore DVD's built in MPEG2 transcoder a go. I was very supprised, the noise that TMPGEnc gave me was almost gone! and at a lower bitrate!

So what are your views? Has anyone else notices this, because it seems that people go on and on about TMPGEnc being the best encoder when I find that the very little talked about Encore produces much better results. Have any of you guys noticed this?

[Baldrick]

I think Adobe Encore DVD uses the Mainconcept MPEG encoder engine.

[lordsmurf]

It;s probably just your settings (or lack thereof controlling them).

[SatStorm]

TMPGenc is not the best, is among the best!

Unfortunatelly, it is not an easy encoder. You have to learn how to set it up. Did you use the wizard it offers? The wizard does a pretty good job, try it if you didn't use it!

[azalin1975]

It probably is a setting indeed. When using the Wizard you will get nice quality mpeg-2 files, but you have to tweak those resulting settings a bit, or better yet, create completely new settings. not easy,. I know. but well worth fiddling with.

When using main concept based encoders be carefull by the way (Encore DVD has the main concept indeed I think, not sure though) . CleanerXL is a very good encoder and uses the main concept encoder, thing is that with rapid changing frames, the bitrates drops like crazy and does not use padding to keep the data flow from dropping to 0kb/s. On the other hand, the main concept encoder does provide with a nicer and brighter picture, whereas the Tmpgenc plus encoder results in a slightly less bright picture. This is NOT a setting but an encoder thing.

cheers.

[seandvd]

I realize this reply would be better suited in the Newbie Conversion forum but this post is exactly what I was looking for. I've been trying to optimize TMPGEnc and though things are much better than when I started, I'm still disappointed with action footage.

Last night I installed the trial version of Encore and it seemed to do a better job with such footage so my newbie question is this: can anyone tell me what TMPGEnc settings best rival Encore? I'm limiting myself to about 1 hour of video and I'm trying to maximimize the quality of the video which is typcially sports. (son's football games) I've set TMPGEnc according to this guide: http://dvd-hq.info/Compression.html and typically use 8 Kbs CBR.

I sure as hell don't want to spend $500 if I can tweak TMPGEnc so your help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

seandvd

[timmyp]

Take a look at this:

http://dvd-hq.info/Compression.html

[seandvd]

it's a great guide but unfortunately it's the one I'm already using

thanks,

seandvd