NERO lost its AC3 capabilities ?!

[Zetti]

Hi all,

I was having some crashes, so I uninstaled and reinstaled Nero and NVE latest versions;

But now it can't capture as AC3 anymore, audio format keeps grey shaded as LPCM

Indeed, it stucks in AVI mode and doesn't offer anymore DVD capture;

First guess : I need to install the separate DVD plug-in....BUT...Nero says that now it's already included even on the Web version, no need to install separately

Well, as it was clear its DVD capabilities weren't available, I instaled the separate DVD plug-in I have - DVD video capture got back, OK;

BUT...AC3 capabilities are stll gone, please, how can I take it back ?

Nero says that both DVD and Multichannel plug-ins are already included in the web download, so I am supposed to have it already instaled; but it seems there's no way I can make it encode AC3 when capturing again - it was available before uninstaling/reinstaling, and as far as I remember I have never instaled previously an AC3 plug-in or whatever;

Confusing

Thanks,

Zetti

[Sefy]

Which Nero version are you using ? and have you upgraded it recently ?

[gastorgrab]

Careful, i just upgraded Nero and ended up reinstalling Windows!

After two days my registered version reverted back to a demo, and then all hell broke loose.

[Sefy]

@gastorgrab, I didn't tell the guy to upgrade, I only asked if he did upgrade

PS: I'll wager a 100 to 1 that you had a "non-original" serial number

[Zetti]

Thanks to both, blame it on me, I was accessing the wrong tab, it's OK now

Thanks a lot !



Zetti

[Sefy]

Glad to hear it's nothing serious! 8)

[gastorgrab]

@gastorgrab, I didn't tell the guy to upgrade, I only asked if he did upgrade

PS: I'll wager a 100 to 1 that you had a "non-original" serial number

I have a reciept.

I just bought Nero 6 Ultra Edition, and the next day they came out with an update. I installed that immediately, and the problems started on the next reboot.

I emailed Nero and they told me to download General Clean Tool, and reinstall Nero 6, which cleared things up for about 6 hours.

After that its all a blur.

When i reloaded Windows (My PC was freezing in SafeMode) and reinstalled the later file "nero63115.exe" everything worked great. And has been running fine ever since.

I wondering maybe if the nForce2 chipset had something to do with it. I've seen other strange things happen only on this machine.

Hey, it could have been a coincidence too. I've been running that particular machine without a crash for 6 months (Win2k).

Maybe i was just due.

[Sefy]

I'm not sure it would be the nForce2 since I have one too (RGA+) and i've been doing Nero updates whenever they come out. Have you done any new Windows Updates ? I know that if I try to install any of the latest "required" fixes, my 2000 will not boot anymore

Thankfully I got 98se as well, so when 2000 dies, I go back to 98se which as always, works much better

[gastorgrab]

For some strange reason DVD2AVI would never work on that machine, but when i downloaded DGMPGDec it worked just fine. I always wondered if the CPU optimizations properly identified themselves.

When i reloaded Windows i got all the latest drivers so it could have been an issue with one of them. It seems to work just fine now.

I should try DVD2AVI v1.76 now that i've reloaded Window & latest drivers.

It must have just been Bit-Rot, it is Windows remember.

[Sefy]

It's rather Strange DVD2AVI won't work, I use it here all the time

[mats.hogberg]

when 2000 dies, I go back to 98se which as always, works much better

Nero and NVE latest versions; But now it can't capture as AC3 anymore, audio format keeps grey shaded as LPCM

W 98 better than W2k? Using Nero to capture? Have i entered the Twilight Zone?

/Mats

[Sefy]

@mats.hogberg, each person finds something else that works best for them, I found to my personal taste, MUCH less problems with 98se then I did with 2K or XP (which is the 32bit equivelent of Windows ME!).

[mats.hogberg]

:P Each to his/her own! I just couldn't resist commenting on that, as it completely the opposite of what I (and, I believe a vast majority of those who have switched from 16 to 32 bit MS OS) found when I moved from the W95 strain to the NT strain of MS OS. But I agree on XP... I should have stayed with W2k...

/Mats

[Sefy]

Unfortunatly, most people "Switch" as soon as something "new" comes out, thinking it's "better" because its "newer" and say "it's more stable and blah blah blah" and yet i've seen 2000 crash a hell lot more then 98se ever did on me!

Not to mention more security risks, more updates which can kill the OS and a whole lot of other issues. I only use 2000 on a smaller partition so I can do a few works with programs which require it, other then that, i'm on 98se most of the time.

[gastorgrab]

It's rather Strange DVD2AVI won't work, I use it here all the time

Nope, still doesn't work right. TMPGEnc won't open the project file.
So far i tried;

DVD2AVI v1.76 - Doesn't work!

DVD2AVI v1.77.3 - Doesn't work!

DGMPGDec v 1.0.13 (DGIndex) - Works great, no problems at all.
DGDecode.dll (mpeg2dec3.dll) works fine too.

CPU Optimization? (these were made before the nForce2 chipset)

Maybe something about the way the hardware is supported in the BIOS.
This board is EpoX 8RGA with dual video onboard. (No Firewire)
AMD Athlon (Palimino core) XP2000

DVD2AVI v1.76 has worked correctly on every other system i've ever tried.

[Sefy]

I've got an RGA+ board, which is the same as yours only with FireWire and a few other extras, other then that it's identical, have you updated your BIOS? cause I run DVD2AVI all the time, on 2000 and 98SE systems and without a single flaw.

[lordsmurf]

? I know that if I try to install any of the latest "required" fixes, my 2000 will not boot anymore

Welcome to hell. MS fragged my system twice with "updates" for ME. Now that I'm on a "supported" and "current" OS (winXP) I hope this won't strike for a few years.

[Sefy]

@lordsmurf, as they say in the Microsoft Showbiz: Dream On Johnny
As soon as their new Windows 2003 launches, expect less and less support, it's their obvious tactic to force you to switch to a newer OS which is basicly and exactly the same, with the expection of cosmetic changes to the GUI, i'd say that soon your entire OS will be nothing more then PNG and HTML files

[gastorgrab]

I've got an RGA+ board, which is the same as yours only with FireWire and a few other extras, other then that it's identical, have you updated your BIOS? cause I run DVD2AVI all the time, on 2000 and 98SE systems and without a single flaw.

I'm leaning more towards the Palamino core AMD.

This system is the result of a MB transplant. The old board was AOPen AK-77 Pro (crap), and the CPU level is just before a major change in core design.

I'm thinkin they changed the core for a good reason.

I'll try a BIOS update anyhow, i've always had good luck with EpoX MB's

[Sefy]

Mine is the Athlon XP latest core for the 2000+ CPU.

I am looking forward to hearing from you after the BIOS update!

[gastorgrab]

Still the same thing, only DGIndex.exe works correctly.

Heck, it works so much easier than DVD2AVI anyway, with creating the AviSynth script for you (template.avs), more options, etc.

Until the Nero 6 fiasco, this machine was rock-solid. Everything always worked right the first time (except for DVD2AVI).

[Sefy]

huh ?
Where does it have the option to create an AVS script ??

[gastorgrab]

This is taken from the QuickStart.html included in the package; "dgmpgdec1012.zip", located at:
http://neuron2.net/fixd2v/dgmpgdec1012.zip

Yeah, But How Do I Do That Automatic Script File Thing?
Ahh, you have to pay extra for that! No, not really.
Let's suppose you have a script that you use all the time. Maybe like this:

loadplugin("...\DGDecode.dll")
loadplugin("...\Decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("myvob.d2v",cpu=6)
fielddeinterlace()

Copy this file to the same directory where DGIndex is located, and call it 'template.avs'. Then edit it to remove the D2V file name but leave the quotes. Yes, remove the name! It should then look like this:

loadplugin("...\DGDecode.dll")
loadplugin("...\Decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("",cpu=6)
fielddeinterlace()

You see, DGIndex is going to use this as a template and insert the right file name in there. Slick, eh?

OK, all you have to do now is fire up DGIndex and do a Save Project. If the *.avs file does not already exist, DGIndex will make one for you based on the template!

Simple eh?

http://neuron2.net/fixd2v/decodefix.html

[indolikaa]

? I know that if I try to install any of the latest "required" fixes, my 2000 will not boot anymore

Welcome to hell. MS fragged my system twice with "updates" for ME. Now that I'm on a "supported" and "current" OS (winXP) I hope this won't strike for a few years.

You're dreaming again, aren't you Smurf?

[Sefy]

@gastorgrab, that's not "automatic" cause I need to create the AVS first, and I have no desire to do that

I Thought when you said automatic, that it creates it like a "Save AVS" or a "Generate AVS" not that I have to prepare a file in advance. cause for me it is annoying and one of THE reason why I dont use all this AviSynth garbage. I don't do "same" names for all my projects, so it's useless and annoying to update and edit a file all the time.

When they come up with a "save as" method, then i'll call it automatic

[gastorgrab]

@gastorgrab, that's not "automatic" cause I need to create the AVS first, and I have no desire to do that

I Thought when you said automatic, that it creates it like a "Save AVS" or a "Generate AVS" not that I have to prepare a file in advance. cause for me it is annoying and one of THE reason why I dont use all this AviSynth garbage. I don't do "same" names for all my projects, so it's useless and annoying to update and edit a file all the time.

When they come up with a "save as" method, then i'll call it automatic

Whenever i save the project, i get a simple AVS file along with the D2V.

It simply inserts the correct path into the "template.avs".

(Hey they named it "Automatic", not me!)

[Sefy]

Exactly where is the automatic part ?
It never created any AVS for me, and if you need to create one in order for it to create it for you, that's the most manual automatic thing i've ever seen

[gastorgrab]

In the directory containing DGIndex.exe, you must create a simple template and name it "template.avs".

In my first "template.avs" i had only the lines;

loadplugin ("C:\Ut\Video\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
mpeg2source ("",cpu=6)
YV12toRGB24 ()
FlipVertical ()

but i have since modified it
(i'm not on that machine right now)

Opening MPEG-2 encoded file in DGIndex, and saving project results in generated D2V file and an AVS file with the path filled in.

loadplugin ("C:\Ut\Video\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
mpeg2source ("C:\Temp\example.d2v",cpu=6)
YV12toRGB24 ()
FlipVertical ()

There's nothing magical about it. It simple automates the creation of a very basic script. (of your choice)

[gastorgrab]

I think i see what your saying.

You only need to create the template one time.

Then everytime you "Save Project" with a unique filename you also get an .AVS with the same unique filename.

Test.d2v / Test.avs

Example.d2v / Example.avs

Pickle.d2v / Pickle.avs

etc, etc.

[Sefy]

gastorgrab, that would be manualy creating it every single time, cause once I am done with a movie, I delete all the folder contents, and whole those lines you wrote, well, it's idiotic I need to learn scripting to even understand what to write there!

I'm sorry, but till the day it's either FULLY automatic or they invent a point and click method, AVS will never be commonly used, just like Linux! both are designed by people who think we are still living in the 2nd century BC!