DVDR with original menus...easy and FREE

[noki]

Credit for this info goes to an individual on another forum/site.

TOOLS: DVDDecrypter 3.170
DVDShrink 3.0b5
DVDFab 0.1.71
burning app


1. rip all files in File MOde.
2. in Shrink Open FIle and select VTS_xx.IFO of the main movie instead of the usual VIDEO_TS.IFO manager.
3. notice EXTRAS are not included.
4. shrink as usual if needed...DO NOT RE-AUTHOR!!...click Back-Up.
5. go to the folder with your shrunken files and see that VIDEO_TS.IFO is missing. if you mistakenly burn these file now your DVDR will not play on a standalone. IMPT NOTE: if the fileset is not VTS_01.xxx you must manually change it so that it is.
6. start Fab and click Create video manager (VIDEO_TS.IFO).
7. select the shrunken folder and click Continue...VIDEO_TS.IFO is created in folder in less than 1 second.
8. burn contents of folder.

NOTE: when you play the dvdr the movie will start. to access the original menus press the menu button on your remote. anyone with a workaround so the menu starts first using this method please post. also EXTRAS can be added but movie/menu compression(s) might increase.

hope this helps those that want menus but do not want to go the route of IFO/VOBEdit (great progs). bon chance.

[XanaXManX]

How is this better than using INSTACOPY? Pardon my ignorance. I have havent been here for quite awhile. But do you end up with a Higher quality DVD or something?

[noki]

I was unaware that InstantCopy 7 or 8 could transcode yet keep the original menus and no extras. to answer your question you do not necessarily end up with a higher quality DVD for there are too many varibles involved here (then again you might )...you get a dvdr with the original menu(s) after compression. some have stated IC produces a higher-quality video (whatever that means ) than transcoders like Shrink and D2O regardless of menus or not. then you have the other camp that states the opposite. one thing for certain transcoders are a lot faster in accomplishing the required task.

[noki]

sorry, IC itself is a transcoder. just that it takes hours to do its thing. Shrink compressed my Rush Hour 2 movie with menus (very little compression and no deep analyzes) in 8 minutes...on my superfast P3-933!! movies quality is great.

[noki]

XanaXManX...
How is this better than using INSTACOPY?

did I mention this method was FREE!? makes it a lot better than IC in my view.

[Submerge_4]

Ummm, To keep the main movie and menu just use Clone DVD (in conjunction with either DVD Decrypter or Any DVD).


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[mrbass]

He's explaining a FREE way to do it. CloneDVD + AnyDVD are great but it's $90 vs. free. As to why anyone wants a menu...it's beats me but to each...

[tsantsa]

As to why anyone wants a menu...it's beats me but to each...

Well, its kinda cool to keep the menu...Have you seen the Memento menu's? those are cool as all hell. (but they are huge)

The only caveat that I can see with CloneDVD (my fave) is that you cant tell the program how much you want to compress each part (similar to Shrink). But shrink takes to long to transcode (deep analysis) compared to CloneDVD to get the same results...at least thats my experience! 8)

[noki]

thanks MRBASS for reiterating FREE. I only do menus if the main movie needs only 3% or less compression and the menus are interesting. look at it as a way to fill up a dvdr (but not at the expense of picture quality). it's kind of nice to be able to select scenes from motion menu if the cost is...FREE.

[starionx]

...As to why anyone wants a menu...it's beats me but to each...

For DVD's with TV episodes (Friends, MASH etc), it is VERY useful to have a menu.

[MackemX]

there's quite a few methods to remove stuff and maintain menu's and thanks for your method

here's 2 more free versions of getting menu's and movie only HERE (this method only allows for PAL as I ain't updated it to include the NTSC VOB's ) & HERE (link to the Blank PAL/NTSC VOB's HERE)

I need to update my guides as doing it manually may take longer for some but you soon get used to it and get the basic idea but there are pitfalls. 2COOL also has similar guides over at Doom9 on how to strip all the crap manually

[mrbass]

...As to why anyone wants a menu...it's beats me but to each...

For DVD's with TV episodes (Friends, MASH etc), it is VERY useful to have a menu.

Your quite correct but in that case I do 1:1 copies which retains everything and removing extras isn't a big deal. I do 1:1 copies with dvdshrink 3.0 beta 5 and remove unwanted audio to achieve better video quality though.

[noki]

mrbass
thanks for your reply. with your 1:1 method in Shrink you are re-authoring. are the menus that you include functional menus, or do they just play at the end (or beginning) of the main movie? can you use it for scene selection, etc.? thank.

[noki]

does anyone know if mrbass's method produce functional menus thanks.

[SaSi]

The method of keeping the menu for the main movie is interesting, however, when only a single movie is to be placed on the disk, why bother with the introductory video, menu transitions and stuff? I find it more comfortable to have the movie start immediatelly.

Can anyone explain why you would like to have the original menu for the movie?

[noki]

SaSi
some motion menus on commercial dvds are pretty cool and somewhat entertaining. i mentioned rush hour2 and others have listed more titles. scene selection is handy to have sometimes.
the intro video you refer to is not in the menu; they're EXTRAS.
i do not use menus if it will reduce the quality of the main movie. if there is room on the dvdr to include them (compression of main movie being zero or up to 3%) i do.
as mentioned in my first post a "qwerk" in this method is that the movie plays first; exactly what you prefer

[noki]

anyone
does anyone know if mrbass's method produce functional menus thanks.

[Vejita-sama]

There are a lot of ways to do this, I personally just use IFOEdit (freeware too) but for some reason people seem to be 'scared' of IFOEdit You can also use DVD Shrink as above to backup only the main VTS, then generate the VIDEO_TS.* files with IFOEdit.

Lots of combinations.

Sasi - I agree, if you take out the extras just keep the chapter points.. for most backups. But for some backups (eg. Matrix) the menus are just really cool to look at/play with too. Or people like to skip to certain scences from the menu instead of hitting the >> on the remote to get there.

[MackemX]

anyone
does anyone know if mrbass's method produce functional menus thanks.

I'm pretty sure mrbass's methods produces functional menu's as he knows his stuff

he may just be using still pictures or manually stripping out the stuff he doesn't want maintaining the structure

I'm not really sure but one thing I know is that it will play

[mrbass]

I have no 'method'. I was simply saying when I do a episodic disc I do a do a 1:1 copy with dvdshrink. The only thing is sometimes I'll uncheck unwanted audio in dvdshrink. And I'm not talking about in re-author mode but rather in backup mode.

[noki]

thanks for clarifying, mrbass.

[Legolas]

i tried this method and the dvd player wouldn't play my disc.

[Scenarist_020]

Mr . Bass, your guides are very helpfull. I just wanted to say that. One question? Could you give some hints about DVD2SVCD & Scenarist; about how to do multi ep. DVD? ( like Star Trek DVD ) Or a guide about this?
T.I.A.

[bappida69]

Hi all,

I tried out this guide but got stuck while using the DVD Fab. Here's what I did so far:

(1) Rip all files
(2) Used DVD Shrink to back up as per instructions.
(3) Opened DVDFab to create video manager. I get the error message
"VTS_01_0.IFO is missing! Function aborted."

Any ideas anyone.

Also while using the DVD Shrink, how do you identify the VTS_xx.IFO of the main movie. I have the following files in the folder: VTS_01_0.IFO to VTS_07.0.IFO. I chose the VTS_02_0.IFO as it contained the whole movie(?)

Any help would be welcome.

Thanks.

[K(c)offee]

Honestly most menus are so "pretty" they are useless as menus. The one I can think of off the top of my head is Daredevil. Pretty as all hell but trying to set up sound then play the movie was a bitch. Also hate it when you have to watch a 30 sec clip from the movie just to set up sound/subs so on.

[Wheelie4]

Also while using the DVD Shrink, how do you identify the VTS_xx.IFO of the main movie. I have the following files in the folder: VTS_01_0.IFO to VTS_07.0.IFO. I chose the VTS_02_0.IFO as it contained the whole movie(?)

Any help would be welcome.

Thanks.

I could be wrong but the .IFO for the main movie is usually the largest size.

[bappida69]

"I could be wrong but the .IFO for the main movie is usually the largest size. "

Thats what I assumed also and chose the VTS_02_0.IFO file for DVD Shrink. But the error message happened despite this.

[dcsos]

Mr Bass pointed out a way to do it for cash not free
I'd like to do the same..
but using links on MR BASS'S site find the hidden settings download for Instant Copy..
If you have a few hours to kill (its slower than your method NOKI)I'm pretty sure
but you can remove the extras and keep functional menus this way..
Not as good as your way NIKO, because it costs..but some of us may have alread taken the plunge into PINNACLE BLOATWARE!

http://www.mrbass.org/instantcopy/

Thanks again NOKI
are you viking?

[MackemX]

Mr Bass pointed out a way to do it for cash not free
I'd like to do the same..
but using links on MR BASS'S site find the hidden settings download for Instant Copy..
If you have a few hours to kill (its slower than your method NOKI)I'm pretty sure
but you can remove the extras and keep functional menus this way..
Not as good as your way NIKO, because it costs..but some of us may have alread taken the plunge into PINNACLE BLOATWARE!

http://www.mrbass.org/instantcopy/

Thanks again NOKI
are you viking?

Hi

the hack you are talking about is for IC7 and it's not reommended for fussy players as IC7 just does not remove stuff correctly and that's probably why it was never supported
(ISSUE 1, ISSUE 2)
IC8 support's title removal now and doesn't need a hack. I'm not sure about it as it seems to use the same method as IC7 and I had a few hiccups when I did some tests but it should work for most

[mrbass]

After applying the registry trick (setting DVDMagic to true/yes) you can deselect extras, bonus features, trailers, etc. you don't wish to keep by unchecking the Video Title Sets (VTS). 5.72GB is the size of the just the video and (6.38GB) is the original size of the main movie with audio. I don't recommend unchecking titles anymore. Strip them with dvdtoolbox or dvdshrink. Try dvdshrink and set crap extras to Still Movie if your trying to do a 1:1 copy instead of Main Movie Only copy.

Yes for 2 months after IC7 came out (was it Feb 2003?) I did say use it but even though I didn't have a problem in my dvd player I don't recommend it as it doesn't work in quite a few players. So I believe as MackemX pointed out it is NOT a good way at all to do it. And no I didn't just add that part about recommending it...I believe I added it like I said around 2 months after IC7 after we all knew how bad it is to remove titles in IC7.