Avoid Using Nero, Convert Till DVD Decryptor

[freak_in_cage_10k]

hi all,

using either Intervideo DVD copy 2 (and CCE method) to backup discs. HOWEVER, they produce a large number of files and DVD decryptor wont burn them.

i can use nero, but i preferr DVD decryptor. how can i convert the files so that DVD Decryptor will burn them???

PS there are BUP, IFO and VOB files produced! i guess dvd decryptor doesn;t like them!?

[FulciLives]

Very easy simple solution.

Get ImgTools classic version. MAKE sure it is the CLASSIC VERSION!

Make sure your VIDEO_TS folder is in another FOLDER

For instance on your main drive make a FOLDER with the name of the back-up (i.e., the name of the movie). For this example let us say that we call it SUPERMOVIE

Now put your VIDEO_TS folder with your DVD files in that SUPERMOVIE folder.

Start up ImgTools and select the folder that the VIDEO_TS folder is in ... so in our example you select the folder called SUPERMOVIE

ImgToos will now create an empty AUDIO_TS folder in the SUPERMOVIES folder and then create a single large ISO IMAGE file which DVD Decrypter can burn to a DVD recordable.

In fact if you have the newest versions of both ImgTools classic and DVD Decrypter you can set it up so that ImgTools will launch DVD Decypter upon completing the ISO IMAGE file and DVD Decrypter will start burning automatically.

This method works great and creates a much more compliant DVD in the end than using NERO to burn.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[dap]

Hey FulciLives
Thanks for the tip about Imgtool classic and DVD Decrypter.
I tried it last night and it's both fast and effective. I've always thought DVD Decrypter was better at burning DVD's than Nero and now I have almost no reason to go back to Nero in the future as this method is so easy and clean.
Thanks again for the great tip.

[FulciLives]

Hey FulciLives
Thanks for the tip about Imgtool classic and DVD Decrypter.
I tried it last night and it's both fast and effective. I've always thought DVD Decrypter was better at burning DVD's than Nero and now I have almost no reason to go back to Nero in the future as this method is so easy and clean.
Thanks again for the great tip.

You are welcome !!!

I too think this is the best method to burn a DVD

I've had DVD-R discs tried to a variety of players and never get any bad feedback except in a few instances where I think the problem is the DVD player itself (i.e., old players or cheap players that don't like any DVD-R disc).

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[garryheather]

Why don't you like Nero ? I have been using it exclusively for years and have no reason to believe there is a problem with it that can't be put down to crappy authoring (or other such problems outside the scope of Nero itself).

[FulciLives]

Why don't you like Nero ? I have been using it exclusively for years and have no reason to believe there is a problem with it that can't be put down to crappy authoring (or other such problems outside the scope of Nero itself).

Many people have had issues with DVD discs that were burned using NERO

Some say it is user error ... some say it was only certain versions of NERO that were buggy ... combine those and you have a mess.

The method of burning I described is considered by many to be the best. It is simple and easy and only takes maybe a few extra minutes than using NERO. When I say a few extra minutes I'm talking an average of 3 to 4 minutes on my computer (admittingly slow) maybe less time on a faster computer.

It is worth it for "piece of mind"

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[garryheather]

The method of burning I described is considered by many to be the best.

I'd beg to differ on that one - I can't think of a single friend or colleague who has had problems with Nero either, so we wouldn't say it was the best, but there you go.

Piece of mind is subjective, of course - I don't have second thoughts about my discs and since many of those are for demo purposes where I have no control over the playback device, I think if there were problems with Nero I would have heard about it by now... each to their own, I guess.

My point is just because you don't like Nero, doesn't mean everyone else should boycot it too. When you consider how many drives come bundled with it, sure, people will have problems with it. Funny how you only ever hear the complaints...

[richdvd]

My point is just because you don't like Nero, doesn't mean everyone else should boycot it too

Where did Fulci say to boycott Nero?
Some people like it, some don't.
Use whatever works for you.
I personally have never had any problems with Nero either.

[fritzi93]

John's advice is good, especially considering the context. It's the best advice for a noob or someone asking for help with burning problems.

Advantages:
1) Freeware
2) Essentially no settings to screw up.

Or should he have said: "Buy program xyz. In settings do this, that and the other thing. But if you do this, don't do that, blah, blah."

No, I don't have it in for Nero, use what you like.

[Pop's]

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[FulciLives]

I've used Nero for years right up to the newest version, hell even my kids use it without a glich. We have 5 pc's in this house and Nero is on all of them. Three of them have DVD Writers and the others have CD Writers. Do you people ever stop and think before you bash a product that the problem just might be pc related and not the software.

Please don't talk "out of turn" as the saying goes. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

When DVD burning first started NERO had many issues and not all of them were user error.

Perhaps they got it figured out now but alot of us were burnt and haven't forgotten.

I had to figure out another method to burn and I found one that worked when NERO was not ... so I stuck with it.

Plain and simple.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[GangstaMo]

Pops,u could be right,if u do find 1 Version working for u,dont upgrade..
Stick to it,especially,if u install other proggy..

u r 1 lucky son of the bhitc,ive been reading about the bugs in Nero
for so many years,i experience it with the new version[is it fix]''
Why so many updates ???

PS
Every loves Nero,they just hope one day they dont hav to write
bad comments about it..

[Pop's]

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[FulciLives]

Fuci I'll talk or post when I want. If you know so damned much why didnt you figure out why Nero wouldnt work for you. And like I said most software problems are pc related unless there just plain junk. I build and repair pc's and most of the time its the pc that has issues and not the program itself.

It wouldn't work because the NERO program had BUGS in it.

Not only are you rude but also hard of hearing ... or rather reading.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[marvel2020]

Ahhhhh...... I see another which is best war has started, and of course it has to do with the most over rated piece of shit DVD burning software there is.....NERO.


Now if ya notice, i mentioned DVD, now let me spell that out for ya again DVD, yes that right dvd, cause when it comes to this it's ******* shite, but for all other burning..... VCD/SVCD, AUDIO it works 100%.

If ya ask me they should have stayed to that, instead of trying to rule the DVD burning world. Is it any wonder people have problems with there software when they release so many updates to fix bugs, but in the end cause even more bugs.

Another thing, i'm suck of hearing from all you NERO ass kissers who put the blame down to Media or Authoring from the people that have had or still having problems with NERO.

Have you ever even considered that it just might be ******* NERO.

Ok example in my case, Authored Film using DVD Maestro, burnt 3 time's using NERO's 3 DVD burning option's....

DVD VIDEO
DVD-ROM(UDF)
DVD-ROM(UDF-ISO)

Burner was a Pioneer 104 2xspeed had the latest firmware installed, i can't remember media was used except to say it was 2xspeed certified.

Result 3 coasters.

The same film burnt using same burner and media, only this time it was burnt using STOMP RECORD NOW MAX 4.50, yes you guess it....

A perfect burn, with film working 100%.

Again same procedure, burnt using the IMGTOOL/DVD_DECRYPTER method, again a perfect burn with the film working 100%.

Now before you get on your high horse and start going on with why didn't to try another media blah blah blah, well i did and it still came out with the same results.

And now that i'n using a LITEON 811s Burner i wouldn't even think about using NERO to do my burns.

STOMP, and Imgtool/DVDdecrypter is what i used and i've never had any problems/coasters in all the time i've used them.

[freak_in_cage_10k]

FulciLives- thanks a lot man, it works great!!!!

[bdf24]

I also must add that almost all the DVD's I've used Nero to burn will have small stutters in various spots on my DVD Player. But when I transcode to an ISO image file then burn with DVDDecrypter I don't get any stutters at all on my player. The DVD's that do stutter in my Player which were made with Nero don't stutter in some other players I've tried them in. But still the ISO image works better for me then Nero Does. But don't get me wrong Nero is the only program I use when it comes to burning data or Audio cd's.

So I gotta agree with FulciLives. But then again what works for one person may or may not work for the next guy.

[jimmalenko]

I have only had 1 problem with Nero ever (ver 6.0.0.15 didn't get along with my burner). I promote its usage on this site because I have had great success with it over the years, as have many other people. I have also been drawn into a few flame wars with people who weren't overly impressed with its performance for them.

I have no beef with people that prefer other software - I draw the line when they bash it though because IMO it is pretty good software. Some people don't agree with my opinion but I expect them to pay me the courtesy of respecting my opinion regardless because it works for me.

Fulci and marvel are entitled to have their own opinion regarding the software - that's fine by me. I don't agree but I respect their decisions because they have valid reasons for believing this is so. That said, I am dissappointed marvel has caned it outright. It is a bit of a known issue that it doesn't work too flash with LitOne DVD burners, I might add.

People here generally suggest methods that have worked for them in the past - its called experience. Let us show people the courtesy we expect back fromt hem, eh ?

[Pop's]

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[djelimon]

Up until a couple weeks ago, I had kept up-to-date with Nero, never a coaster. Then I bought some ONIDTECH DVD-R disks, coaster city. Having read all the beef, I thought, maybe the software, especially when I got the same error twice with different disks. But, before I decided to roll back my verions, I thought I'd try one more thing - I bought a couple DVD+R Maxells. Burned at full speed (4X) and.... no problems.

During this time I contacted Nero, and they really did not impress, because they obviously have a number of form letters they generate before any live person is involved. OTOH, that's big software for you.

So what's it all mean?

From now on, I burn on Maxell DVD+R 4X. And keep all my versions.

[dap]

I have to agree with the above poster who said he got skips using nero.
I too have had some DVD's with jitters and I almost always used DVDShrink and nero to burn DVD9 to one DVD-R Always with TDK Media. However, when I burn a DVD5 to DVD-R using DVD Decrypter my backups have always played 100% all of the time.

Granted I only burned one DVD-R using DVDShrink and the Imgtool / DVD Decrypter combo but it played smooth as silk in my old Panansonic DVD player.

What more could you ask for; It's fast, easy and best of all it's FREE!

[FulciLives]

I have only had 1 problem with Nero ever (ver 6.0.0.15 didn't get along with my burner). I promote its usage on this site because I have had great success with it over the years, as have many other people. I have also been drawn into a few flame wars with people who weren't overly impressed with its performance for them.

I have no beef with people that prefer other software - I draw the line when they bash it though because IMO it is pretty good software. Some people don't agree with my opinion but I expect them to pay me the courtesy of respecting my opinion regardless because it works for me.

Fulci and marvel are entitled to have their own opinion regarding the software - that's fine by me. I don't agree but I respect their decisions because they have valid reasons for believing this is so. That said, I am dissappointed marvel has caned it outright. It is a bit of a known issue that it doesn't work too flash with LitOne DVD burners, I might add.

People here generally suggest methods that have worked for them in the past - its called experience. Let us show people the courtesy we expect back fromt hem, eh ?

I feel my medication wearing off ...

You are soooooooooooooooooooooooooo full of BS

Your last paragraph there (in bold - my emphasis) sure doesn't seem to match with anything you said before that.

You claim that YOU can have your own view based on experience but what about my view or the view of ALL those people who have had problems with DVD burns done with NERO?

Here is how the situation boils down ... like it or not.

Some people use NERO and have no problems. Some people use NERO and have problems. No one is really 100% positive why this is so but it seems to have more to do with just user error such as possible bugs in NERO itself. Now the numbers of people who don't have problems is high but so is the numbers of people who have problems.

So my question to you jimmalenko is why would you ... especially as someone who has been here awhile and probably read many posts (based on your own post count) ... recommend a product when you know that many people have problems with it?

That is illogical.

It is more logical to say, "NERO works for me and I love using it but I should point out that the program sometimes doesn't work as it should and it is hard to tell why this is the case. So if you have never used NERO or if you have tried it and had problems then you might want to try this here other method of ImgTools/DVD Decrypter because that method is known to work and is the best bulletproof way of making a compatable DVD. Having said that I like NERO and it works well for me so why don't you try it and see if it works for you."

I would respect such a comment.

I cannot respect a comment defending NERO that does so blindly without admiting that something is fishy in the land of NERO

BY DEFENDING NERO IN THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE YOU TOTALLY IGNORE EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS PROBLEMS WITH IT. That is called, in short, disrepecting other people's opinions.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[jimmalenko]

You claim that YOU can have your own view based on experience but what about my view or the view of ALL those people who have had problems with DVD burns done with NERO?

Fulci and marvel are entitled to have their own opinion regarding the software - that's fine by me. I don't agree but I respect their decisions because they have valid reasons for believing this is so.

Does this not clarify this ?

So my question to you jimmalenko is why would you ... especially as someone who has been here awhile and probably read many posts (based on your own post count) ... recommend a product when you know that many people have problems with it?

That is illogical.

It is more logical to say, "NERO works for me and I love using it but I should point out that the program sometimes doesn't work as it should and it is hard to tell why this is the case. So if you have never used NERO or if you have tried it and had problems then you might want to try this here other method of ImgTools/DVD Decrypter because that method is known to work and is the best bulletproof way of making a compatable DVD. Having said that I like NERO and it works well for me so why don't you try it and see if it works for you."

Holy cow, man. Do you expect me to reel that off every time someone asks for my opinion on burning software ?

BY DEFENDING NERO IN THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE YOU TOTALLY IGNORE EVERYONE ELSE WHO HAS PROBLEMS WITH IT. That is called, in short, disrepecting other people's opinions.

Sorry Pal. Gonna have to agree to disagree on that one. You have your opinion, I'll have mine. Respecting your opinion means that I won't start a flame war with you over it. I'll respond to posts with my opinion, based on my experiences. If you wish to add the disclaimer to all my posts, go ahead. I do not have to allow for other peoples' difficulties when offering advice if my own experiences contradict this.

[mats.hogberg]

I too prefer the author (IfoEdit) - make image (imgtools classic) - burn image (DVDDecrypter) method. Perfect results every time, and not a single setting to make (or fail to make). Most bloatware CD/DVD writing applications simply has too much to offer to make it worth its while to even fire up (and configure correctly) for such a simple task as to write data to a CD/DVD.

/Mats

[offline]

Hate to say it but I agree with FulciLives on his choice re: imagetools.
With regards to Nero, I have had a love/hate relationship with this
software tool for many years - more than most here I'd expect.

Ahead made the mistake of claiming DVD recordable support before
they were ready. This (combined with some flaky drives & media) made
DVDr burning that little bit more painful for early adopters. Many have
yet to forgive

Once thing I will say about Nero 6 is that it is a load of bloatware.
This, of course, is my opinion. I will thank Ahead software
for releasing the Nero SDK which allows programs like imagetools
to work. Oh, and if someone from Ahead is reading this; please bring
back the streamlined professional interface that was Nero 5.5x and
leave the bloat to those that want it.

[petar]

I too got burned by Nero (burned by burning, eh?) so I don't use it for DVD-Video anymore. I've burned hundreds and hundreds of DVDs so I don't think it was a user problem (I might be wrong though). However I use it to burn DVD data (for backups) and never had any problems and I'd recommend Nero for that any time.

I burn DVDs for others hence gave up on Nero. The burned DVDs worked fine on my players but more than one client reported problems hence I don't want to experiment any more with Nero. Especially because it took me some time to figure out what's wrong (tried different media, different authoring program, different encoder) and I probably pissed off few customers.

I'm sure they've fixed the issues in the latest releases but there's a saying where I come from - "once burned by coffee, you'll blow even in beer" (not sure if the translation makes sense).

I burned for a while with imgtools / DVD Decrypter but then to save time (not to make the ISO image) I tried burning with CloneDVD and it's been working great for the last 6 months. Never a problem.

If you ask me about Nero I think it's a good piece of software and I'd recommend it but I've found what works for me and no desire to experiment with Nero any more (for DVD-Video only, that is).

[naturalzinc]

for fulci and and all the nero haters:
last time i checked, dvd decrypter uses the Nero API burning engine to write. so it's just like using nero's "burn image" feature.

let me know if im wrong, but as far as i know, u cant burn w/dvd decrypter unless u have previously installed nero. try it

[Vejita-sama]

Nero does work but it's HAD a lot of problems, and CONTINUES to have problems. Anyone here remember when Nero couldn't burn SVCDs that would FF/rew because of an error in their scandata file. Nero had a problem with the CDI files in the VCDs. Early verisons of Nero burnt DVDs in UDF1.05 by default which many players can't play. If you have Nero Express (free bundled with most burners) you couldn't even change it back to UDF1.02. Etc. etc. etc.

Now Nero has fixed all of those problems/bugs, but the main reason Nero comes out with new verisons/updates every week is because there are so many little bugs. For the vast majority of people, none of these are big issues. So Nero can/does work. But there are problems.

On the other hand there has never been any reported problems with IMGTools/DVD Decrypter. Plus that combo is freeware. I wasted about 6 DVDRs burning them in Nero in UDF1.05 (which don't play on my standalone but did play on my roommates). That is NOT my fault, that's Neros (the verison I had you couldn't change the UDF).

To me it's like using VCDImager then burn Bin/Cue files. That always produces a 100% VCD compatable image. If you like Nero and it works for you great. If you want to recommend it to others thats fine too. But let's also be honest in that there are a lot of non-user errors/problems with Nero.

[FulciLives]

for fulci and and all the nero haters:
last time i checked, dvd decrypter uses the Nero API burning engine to write. so it's just like using nero's "burn image" feature.

let me know if im wrong, but as far as i know, u cant burn w/dvd decrypter unless u have previously installed nero. try it

Sorry this is not true.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[thor300]

naturalzinc, nice statement, too bad its taken out of thin air. My pc is Nero-free, totally, not even installed their ASPI, so how come i can use dvddecrypter. Anyone should feel free to defend Nero, they really need all the support they can get when making so buggy program.