MMC ATI 8.9 has arrived !!

[Manokat]

Has anyone tried this?

[indolikaa]

No. I'll wait 'til other guinea pigs give their input. 8.1 is pefectly stable for my needs.

[lordsmurf]

I'm not a glutten for punishment. ATI MMC 8.8 caused all hell to break loose. So much in fact, that I had to update my site e-mail link in reference to it.

[neomaine]

Don't dare to try it....same reason MMC 8.8 had big capture issues that I thought I got rid of in 6.4!! And, 8.7 is working just fine thank you.

However, I did install the latest disply driver (combo pack) this weekend. It fixed a number background color issues (and other similar display problems) caused after playing games like Age of Mythology and Age of Empires that my son likes. He now goes in and out of the games without having to logoff and logon again (Win2k).

[Manokat]

Previously posted by neomaine:
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Don't dare to try it....same reason MMC 8.8 had big capture issues that I thought I got rid of in 6.4!! And, 8.7 is working just fine thank you.
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That's why it is good to have a "test" PC. If something is not right you do not have to install it on a main PC.

Looks like MMC 8.9 will install fine on my "test" PC running AIW PRO 128.
Looking forward to trying it on AIW Radeon as well hopefully they have fixed "grainy capture" problem I have with MMC 8.8.

[pyrr]

any reason why mmc8.9 wouldn't have XXXx240 for my capture settings.
I have an ATI TV Wonder VE(I believe or it's a PCI).

XXXx240 would be like 320x240 or 640x240.

any ideas? I have 7.9 if this is a bug in 8.x version but they don't seem to have 8.1 or 8.4, they only have 8.8 and 8.9.

let me know.

[next]

8.9 works great. Make sure you are using the latest drivers.

[next]

I'm not a glutten for punishment. ATI MMC 8.8 caused all hell to break loose. So much in fact, that I had to update my site e-mail link in reference to it.

Sounds like you're still stuck on 8.1. Not alot of help. Things are moving along quite nicely.

[next]

Previously posted by neomaine:
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Don't dare to try it....same reason MMC 8.8 had big capture issues that I thought I got rid of in 6.4!! And, 8.7 is working just fine thank you.
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That's why it is good to have a "test" PC. If something is not right you do not have to install it on a main PC.

Looks like MMC 8.9 will install fine on my "test" PC running AIW PRO 128.
Looking forward to trying it on AIW Radeon as well hopefully they have fixed "grainy capture" problem I have with MMC 8.8.

Just curious. On an AIW PRO 128? That's news. Reply back please.

[Kolosus]

If I thought it would do something for me that 8.5 isn't, I might go through the mess of removing everything so I could install all the new.
But have they done something in 8.9 to make it worth the hassle?

[pyrr]

8.9 works great. Make sure you are using the latest drivers.

Yah like i said is this a bug in 8.x? should I replace the AT-TV Wonder with an AIW?

[Kolosus]

I have a TV Wonder Pro, and a Radeon 7500 AIW. My AIW is easily superior to my TV Wonder Pro.

[lordsmurf]

I'm not a glutten for punishment. ATI MMC 8.8 caused all hell to break loose. So much in fact, that I had to update my site e-mail link in reference to it.

Sounds like you're still stuck on 8.1. Not alot of help. Things are moving along quite nicely.

One PC runs 8.1 ... the other 8.7 ... the "other" system tested ATI MMC 7.1-8.8 ... not caring about 8.9 right now ... 7.7 and 8.1 and 8.7 are the best ones to date

[ronnylov]

Previously posted by neomaine:
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Don't dare to try it....same reason MMC 8.8 had big capture issues that I thought I got rid of in 6.4!! And, 8.7 is working just fine thank you.
__________________________________________________ __________

That's why it is good to have a "test" PC. If something is not right you do not have to install it on a main PC.

Looks like MMC 8.9 will install fine on my "test" PC running AIW PRO 128.
Looking forward to trying it on AIW Radeon as well hopefully they have fixed "grainy capture" problem I have with MMC 8.8.

Instead of another "test PC" you can have a dual boot with Windows installed on different partitions on the same PC.

I had problems with MMC 8.1 and upgraded to 8.8 and the problems with scheduled recordings disappeared but I feel it is less stable than 8.1. Maybe I should try 8.9 or 8.7. But it works now so I guess I just leave it untouched for now.

[tigerman8u]

[quote="ronnylov"]

Instead of another "test PC" you can have a dual boot with Windows installed on different partitions on the same PC.

This is what I did. I installed winxp pro on my 2nd hard drive (win 2k is on 1st hard drive). With a clean install MMC 8.9 seems to work ok, so far. Upgrading on my 1st hard drive, forget it, 2 versions of MMC are installed. All screwed up. The new catalyst drivers, on my 2nd hard drive, disabled my AGP slot, says 0x. When I boot to my 1st hard drive AGP 4x is enabled. Haven't figured out the problem yet. Wish ATI software would get their act together and be as good as their hardware.

[BowlPacker]

Don't dare to try it....same reason MMC 8.8 had big capture issues that I thought I got rid of in 6.4!! And, 8.7 is working just fine thank you.

However, I did install the latest disply driver (combo pack) this weekend. It fixed a number background color issues (and other similar display problems) caused after playing games like Age of Mythology and Age of Empires that my son likes. He now goes in and out of the games without having to logoff and logon again (Win2k).

Pardon if this is a little off topic, but I came here this morning to get this question answered...is this ok, to use the latest driver pack and an older mmc version? I just upgraded from a tv wonder to an aiw 9000 pro and based on what I have read here and at lordsmurf.com decided to use mmc 8.1. I noticed on the "previous driver versions" on the ati website, they list a mmc version for each driver update. I guess the question is do i have to use the driver version that corresponds to the mmc version i use, or are they independent updates?

[Kolosus]

I personally have newer drivers. but still use mmc8.5 because it's stable on my system.

[J3M]

I upgraded from 8.8 to 8.9 last night and it caused me some problems. After the install, I lost my analog tuner option as an input. All I got was s-video and component as options. So I backed out of the install and re-installed 8.8. Same thing. So I installed 8.6 that came with my card (AIW 9600 Pro). Still no tuner option. So I had to remove all ATI based software from my PC, re-install Catalyst drivers (v4.1 I think) and then put MMC 8.9 on and it suddenly started working again. I have no idea why, but it cost me about an hour and a half of my time last night. When I upgraded from 8.6 to 8.8 I didn't have this problem. Like I said, it's now working fine, but I didn't really see anything in the new version that makes it a must have.

Anyone else have this issue after upgrading? I'm just curious to find out why this happened.

[MJPollard]

Never bothered to upgrade past 7.7, personally, as all my capturing is done to AVI files via Virtual VCR. I only use MMC when I want to watch TV on my desktop, which isn't all that often since my desk chair isn't nearly as comfortable as my living room couch. As long as there aren't any significant updates to the drivers that would drastically improve video capturing, I see no reason to alter what works.

[Hambone]

I have 8.1 and won't bother upgrading unless they add DV capturing support via firewire. I don't understand why they didn't add that functionality.

[Manokat]

IMO MMC 8.9 is better than 8.7 and 8.8. No more grainy TV / grainy capture (Unlike 8.8 ) and more stable.

[Rawhead]

The main problem I've encountered with ATI is they have no clue how to build installers and unistallers. Which is why they had to include a "uninstall everything related to ATI?" option.

I've had the same problems with every version of MMC I've tried and the only way to get anything to work is to uninstall everything, including the drivers, don't save your personal settings ect.

Then we can get into the problems with the software that need tweaking that should come as default for 99% of the machines out there which aren't.

I'm installing 8.9 and I'm running into the exact problems I ran into from upgrading to 8.1,8.5,8.7,8.8. I'm sure I can fix them, but I'm guessing now that all these tech companies are outsourcing their jobs to china and india to keep their stock prices up, they are relying on forums like this who's content is worth more than their company to give out free tech support.

Soon it will not be free. If Dvdrhelp or many other sites went down, you'd see an influx of broken windows by people throwing their hardware back at em. The future is NOT now.

[lacywest]

MMC ATI 8.9 ... I installed it.

As one of the persons mentioned ... lack of grain has improved.

I used the DVD profile ... just the way it is without tweaking it and I was pleased.

Not bad at all.

Install was a different story ... I did use the ATI uninstall everything related. And I also uninstalled everything ATI related manually.

The problem and the only problem ... the DVD Decoder ... $%&*#$@ thing would not verify ... stupid ... stupid ... what is ATI so worried about.

Nobody needs to tell me if I did this and I did that. Unless someone had the same problem and actually spent considerable time to figure out what chain of events was needed ... I definitely tried numerous different ways. Including the separate DVD decoder installer from ATI site.

I've got better things to do then to spend any more time trying to install ATI's DVD player ... I wouldn't use it if I did install it ... LOL ... I never did in the past.

I like PowerDVD ... with the Oscar skin.

I do like the new MMC ATI 8.9 ... nothing got screwed up ... I just couldn't get the ATI's DVD player to verify correctly. No biggy.

[lacywest]

...... I only use MMC when I want to watch TV on my desktop, which isn't all that often since my desk chair isn't nearly as comfortable as my living room couch. ....

My computer chair is comfortable ... polyester cloth cushioned arm rests ... the whole nine yards. I've fallen asleep in it.

But yeah ... I use MMC mostly for monitoring what my Panasonic DVD recorder is doing.

Or to watch Smallville while StarTrek Enterprise is recording in the living Room.

I bought the chair at Wal-Mart ... $80 bucks ... Executive model I believe.
I had to put it together.

[tommyoz]

The problem and the only problem ... the DVD Decoder ... $%&*#$@ thing would not verify ... stupid ... stupid ... what is ATI so worried about.

Same here, I'm not going to use it anyway either so I decided to not even bother.

I went from 8.6 to 8.9. I make it a practice to uninstall everything ATI manually before any upgrade. I've never used the ATI uninstaller,
I'm afraid to. So far i haven't messed up yet so I'll keep doing what i'm doing.

[CubDukat]

I'd hold up on using this one, if I were you.

MMC8.8 and 8.9 both have problems with playback of interlaced material--namely, they don't deinterlace and there are extreme artifacting problems, especially using MPEG-4.

In addition, anyone using the Fusion HDTVII card will want to avoid the latest drivers; it'll cause the program to lock up on 1080i sources.

I don't know; it seems for every step ATI takes forward, they take several backwards. I just hope their HDTV Wonder isn't saddled with such rotten software. I'm half tempted to get The Program Formerly Known as Snapstream.

[lacywest]

I'd hold up on using this one, if I were you.

MMC8.8 and 8.9 both have problems with playback of interlaced material--namely, they don't deinterlace and there are extreme artifacting problems, especially using MPEG-4.

Who is "you"

And are you saying if we use the ATI player ... the interlacing problems will occur.

I dont use the ATI Video Player ... I use the BS Player or the small windows media player instead.

[Des]

Installed a new motherboard into my system (ASUS) because I got tired of my SOYO not playing nicely with the AIW 9000 pro. Did a clean install of W2k so I figured while I am grabbing drivers I would see what ATI was up to. Found 8.9 and decided to try it (I was happy with 8.8 when the old system would show video). Launching TV produced a "Not able to start video" or some such error. Studied ATI' site with little luck (I had all video confrence stuff, etc. already turned off). Decided to get some coffee and come back to it. I have just finished uninstalling 8.9 and reinstalling 8.1 from the CD that came with the card. Suddenly the TV and everything else works!
I remembered not liking 8.1 on the old system, hopefully I will have more luck here. Otherwise I guess tomorrow I brew more coffee.

Cheers!

[Rawhead]

The problem and the only problem ... the DVD Decoder ... $%&*#$@ thing would not verify ... stupid ... stupid ... what is ATI so worried about.


I've had that DVD Decoder problem with every install of any MMC I've ever done. If you go to the ATI site they have a separate installer for the DVD decoder which I install after MMC. Obviously they know there is something wrong with their installer or why would they put it up there?

[lacywest]

Hey check out my comments about using ... Theater Mode in MMC ATI 8.9

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=821928#821928