Setting up TV tuner/ Capture system

[fender1]

Ok, I now have an AVerDVD TV Tuner card and am looking for some help setting up my system.
I have digital cable from comcast and that along with a VCR and DVD player all run through a tuner that direct the signal to the TV.

Questions: What's the best way to run the signal to my cap card? I've heard S-Video. Is that better than Composite/Coaxil?

Assuming S-Video, where should I plug in the S-Video cable on the other end? Should I plug it into the tuner (will that allow me to select what feed i want to view i.e. the cable, the VCR or the DVD) or directly into the device i want to capture (i.e. have to change it whether i'm capturing TV or VCR) And does either of these setting allow me to do the scheduling a la TiVo of just picking a program on a certain channel and the TV tuner will record on its own no matter what's currently showing on the TV?

Thanks for the help.

[fender1]

Is S-Video just video or does it handle audio data as well?

[snowmoon]

Digital signals ( true mpeg-2 ) will work better over s-video. It only carries video.

[txpharoah]

Digital signals ( true mpeg-2 ) will work better over s-video. It only carries video.

Just to play devil's advocate, I believe some boxes/receivers give analog quality output anyway, regardless of the digital source it was fed. I've never had one, but I have my suspicions given some odd things I've heard, normally with non-USA services or small-time/no-name cable companies with their half-quality boxes.

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Digital signals ( true mpeg-2 ) will work better over s-video. It only carries video.

Just to play devil's advocate, I believe some boxes/receivers give analog quality output anyway, regardless of the digital source it was fed. I've never had one, but I have my suspicions given some odd things I've heard, normally with non-USA services or small-time/no-name cable companies with their half-quality boxes.

That is so wrong it hurts.


Closing in on 2,00 though. So much for advice.

[txpharoah]

That is so wrong it hurts.

That's fine, it may very well be wrong (as I clearly stated I've not gotten to see one of those cases first-hand), but at least give an explanation as to why.

If you feed a high-res signal through crappy analog circuits, you'll lose the large resolutions. I don't see what wrong with this information.

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That is so wrong it hurts.

That's fine, it may very well be wrong (as I clearly stated I've not gotten to see one of those cases first-hand), but at least give an explanation as to why.

If you feed a high-res signal through crappy analog circuits, you'll lose the large resolutions. I don't see what wrong with this information.

Closing in on 2,000. Go for it?

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That is so wrong it hurts.

That's fine, it may very well be wrong (as I clearly stated I've not gotten to see one of those cases first-hand), but at least give an explanation as to why.

If you feed a high-res signal through crappy analog circuits, you'll lose the large resolutions. I don't see what wrong with this information.

I'm only protecting our space.

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Give me some info on your set top box experience. Model numbers?

[txpharoah]

I couldn't care less for my post count. Have Baldrick reset it to a negative number for all I care. Make it a permanent 0. Makes no difference to me. I can't believe people even care about post count.

What I would like to know is an answer to my question since you seem to have some sort of knowledge or info that I must lack. I've heard about odd things with some digital boxes outputting crap on par with VHS, nowhere near digital resolutions. It would be interesting to see if there is an explanation for this.

My knowledge of digital broadcasting doesn't reach outside mainstream USA digital satellite and a few cable providers. It's outside the realm of what I do.

My boxes are not the problem. It's PMs and e-mails I get. The brands are always these off-the-wall things I've never heard of, and my answer to them is normally "I don't know, sorry." Next time I get one, I'll find out more an get back to you. I think it happened 3-4 times now, one was a relative of a friend of a relative or something, so I'd need some aspirin just to think about who that was (well before I joined these forums).

I fail to see the joke here, or why you insist on dragging this out to some insane number of posts.

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Moderators? Please.

Micheal? Mr. Tam, VCD Easy Dude you have to step up. I know you want to.

By the way thanks for all your help. You don't get the accolades too often but you are great.

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2018....ca....ching!

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Sorry...1919....ca....ching!

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2018 should come soon though....ca....ching!

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning.
/ Moderator snowmoon

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I couldn't care less for my post count. Have Baldrick reset it to a negative number for all I care. Make it a permanent 0. Makes no difference to me. I can't believe people even care about post count.

What I would like to know is an answer to my question since you seem to have some sort of knowledge or info that I must lack. I've heard about odd things with some digital boxes outputting crap on par with VHS, nowhere near digital resolutions. It would be interesting to see if there is an explanation for this.

My knowledge of digital broadcasting doesn't reach outside mainstream USA digital satellite and a few cable providers. It's outside the realm of what I do.

My boxes are not the problem. It's PMs and e-mails I get. The brands are always these off-the-wall things I've never heard of, and my answer to them is normally "I don't know, sorry." Next time I get one, I'll find out more an get back to you. I think it happened 3-4 times now, one was a relative of a friend of a relative or something, so I'd need some aspirin just to think about who that was (well before I joined these forums).

I fail to see the joke here, or why you insist on dragging this out to some insane number of posts.

Which set top boxes? Not to be rude but what has been your experience?

[snowmoon]

@tx digital is digital, some are compressed higher than others, but they still retain distinct color channels that are best transmitted through s-video or componient ( RGB RCA cables ). It's nearly impossible to make a generalization about all digital cable systems esp comparing satellite and digital cable since they are completly different beasts.

Devils advocate there are two major problems with "digital cable"

1) At least in my area over 50% of the channels on the lineup are still plain old analog and 95% of the channels anyone would ever actually want to watch are analog.

2) This is generally not a problem with digital cable, but with satellite, compression can introduce artifacts worse than and average VHS tape. Digital cable has a much higher bandwidth and usually do not bother doing heavy compression on feeds.


@next your bonbastic replys were completly unnecessary and uncivil.

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I couldn't care less for my post count. Have Baldrick reset it to a negative number for all I care. Make it a permanent 0. Makes no difference to me. I can't believe people even care about post count.

What I would like to know is an answer to my question since you seem to have some sort of knowledge or info that I must lack. I've heard about odd things with some digital boxes outputting crap on par with VHS, nowhere near digital resolutions. It would be interesting to see if there is an explanation for this.

My knowledge of digital broadcasting doesn't reach outside mainstream USA digital satellite and a few cable providers. It's outside the realm of what I do.

My boxes are not the problem. It's PMs and e-mails I get. The brands are always these off-the-wall things I've never heard of, and my answer to them is normally "I don't know, sorry." Next time I get one, I'll find out more an get back to you. I think it happened 3-4 times now, one was a relative of a friend of a relative or something, so I'd need some aspirin just to think about who that was (well before I joined these forums).

I fail to see the joke here, or why you insist on dragging this out to some insane number of posts.

I think we finally get it...to be continued......

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Not a bad strategy. Protect the fools to keep the posts going. Sorry but obvious?

You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning.
/ Moderator snowmoon

[txpharoah]

@tx digital is digital, .

Yeah, that's my understanding too. I just heard some weird things from people with weird boxes. Again, just being the devil's advocate. Seeing that my satellite is fine, I never cared much to research it.

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Well I finally understand TX. Thank you. I was confused but the clarirty seems to have embrassed me. Thank you very much for your insight. I really appreciate it! I think you are the best!

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@tx digital is digital, .

Yeah, that's my understanding too. I just heard some weird things from people with weird boxes. Again, just being the devil's advocate. Seeing that my satellite is fine, I never cared much to research it.

Sounds like you get it. How much research do you do?. Is it full time?

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@tx digital is digital, .

Yeah, that's my understanding too. I just heard some weird things from people with weird boxes. Again, just being the devil's advocate. Seeing that my satellite is fine, I never cared much to research it.

Sounds like you get it. How much research do you do?. Is it full time?

Sorry for asking...not trying to be rude. But you seem to have a wealth of knowledge. Can you provide some help for me?

[gmatov]

Snowmoon,

I have seen two separate posts with blue violation text, but it is not on posts between.

Does that mean that this poster has recieved two warnings on the same thread for continual harrassment? If so, bravo.

That is the most ridiculous series of mad dog attacks I have seen here, yet.

Wonder who next was last week. And who he will be "next" week.

That said, I have a cable box, and a second feed, no box to the computer. I do not get the digital channels to the computer, unless it is a digital program I wish to cap, which means I have to rewire. The digital decoder gives me a better picture on the TV than on the PC, but before you say, well, it's the hookup, when I feed the digital from the box to the same wire that is attached to the cap card, the signal is better.
So, I think, the feed through the box is better than the feed without the box

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Soon.....working on it

[gmatov]

Next,
No problem, it's just that there is so damned much flaming going on here, lately.

No, I split before the cable converter ( from the cable company, to get the digital programming, as the extended part of my allotted channels )

Some, the non-digital channels, look decent, but when I disconnect from the splitter, and connect the cap card wire directly to the cable converter, I not only have the digital channels, but the non-digital channels are sharper.

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Help here.....and I'm only trying.

Do you mean that the digital feed looks better on your pc than it does on your tv?

[gmatov]

No, through the box, they're BOTH better. And I don't think it is the wires. They're Comcast made wires.

Just seems there is some filtering in the box, besides the pay station filtering.

[txpharoah]

I'd narrow it down to a low-db splitter. What is the db of the splitter? AT least 1000 is needed to maintain signal integrity.

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Ok....That does make sense to me. Perhaps the box is actually improving the quality? I know in my experience my digital box makes the analog channels look better.

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I'd narrow it down to a low-db splitter. What is the db of the splitter? AT least 1000 is needed to maintain signal integrity.

Could be but I'm confused to say the least. Is the complaint before or after the split?