copy from dvdrom to hard drive?

[tweedledee]

I'm sorry if this is in the wrong forum.
I heard something today that I've never read about here. I was told that it's possible to copy a movie from the computers dvdrom onto the hard drive with the right software. Has anyone any details or comments about this? I have copied movies straight from a standalone dvd player through a winfast 2000 card and the result was reasonable.

[SLICK RICK]

If you are talking about copying a DVD in your DVD-Rom to your hard drive then it is as simple as DVDDecrypter.

SLICK RICK

[tweedledee]

I proberley haven't explained myself clearly. Let's say you play a dvd movie on your standalone dvd player into the winfast 2000 card. You can then record that onto your hard drive as a ready to burn copy.
Is it possible (using the right software) to do that from the dvdrom?
In other words, when you are watching the movie on powerdvd is it possible to record it?

[Vejita-sama]

Do we understand the question. DVDs are digital, you can rip the entire DVD to your HD (either as VOB files or as an image file) using a DVD Ripping program. The two most popular programs are DVD Decrypter and Smartripper (see the DVD Rip section to the left).

The question then becomes what do you want to do with the DVD once it's on your HD?

[AarontheRipper]

Yes, this is referred to as "ripping" the DVD. Programs like DVDdecrypter, and smartripper can do this in 20-30 minutes or less depending on the speed of your dvd-rom drive. You may want to check out some of the forum topics dealing with this, as well as look at the newbie articles and explanations to get a better understanding. There really isn't much to it.

[txpharoah]

Read the guides.

<------------------------- DVD RIP

[tweedledee]

OK Lets try again. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT RIPPING. I have ripped dozens of movies, and I'm familiar with SMART RIPPER ETC

Instead of telling me to read the guides, can you go back and READ MY MESSAGE?
Repeat, I'm NOT talking about ripping.
This is about recording the dvd as it plays in the dvd drive, as you would record a tv signal on a capture card screen.
I'm getting the impression that it's not possible by the responce so far.

[rhegedus]

You mean recording 'on the fly'? I think it is possible with some recodring software, but I don't know of anyone that uses this method over ripping.

For starters, the 'capture' will take as long as the film (rips are about 15 mins) and since you're recording a direct capture from a stand alone player the quality will only be a good as your capture card allows and even then you will not be able to manipulate.

[tweedledee]

Thanks "MR. Acorn Computer" I have done "on the fly" recordings thru winfast 2000 and thought the result was reasonable.I'm not looking for perfection, and as far as time is concerned, by the time you rip,then use dvd2avi,then tmpg,then burn, it takes longer than running the movie. Also, I could record in AVI and that is capable of manipulating.
Now to the next bit. Is there software that lets you record "on the fly" straight from the DVD ROM DRIVE? instead of the standalone.
I hope you understand that bit. I just thought if I can use the dvd drive it would save me buying another standalone dvd.

[Fozzee]

Pretty sure that's not possible.

[Will Hay]

It is possible, I think
I read a post recently about recording to avi anything you're currently undertaking on your PC.
For instance, I was thinking of creating a guide for Pinnacle Studio 8.5 and recording myself perfom each action in real time, rather than use screenshots.
I imagine if you set it to record then play your dvd movie this would record it directly to your hdd.
The good news:
It was freeware.
The bad news
I can't find the post or remember the anme of the programme, I only reaslised it's potential a week after I read it
If I do, I'll post back.
Will

[Will Hay]

Thanks "MR. Acorn Computer" I have done "on the fly" recordings thru winfast 2000 and thought the result was reasonable.I'm not looking for perfection, and as far as time is concerned, by the time you rip,then use dvd2avi,then tmpg,then burn, it takes longer than running the movie.

Another option would be to look at either IC7 or dvd2one.
Are you familiar with these?
I agree, smartripper/CladDVD, dvd2avi then TMPGEnc and burning takes an age but...
smartripper takes around 15 mins (for me)
dvd2one takes around 30 mins
Then there's just the burning time, which you'd do anyway with your current method.
45 mins plus burning is less than half the running time of a typical movie.
Just a thought, take it as you will
Will

[tweedledee]

Thanks for thinking about it. I just thought that when watching a movie on POWERDVD you can capture stills by clicking a button....why not capture video? surely it's not that hard to develope software that could do that.

[rhegedus]

Thanks for thinking about it. I just thought that when watching a movie on POWERDVD you can capture stills by clicking a button....why not capture video? surely it's not that hard to develope software that could do that.

Probably not, but then if it's a widescreen film or anything like that then you're going to end up capturing an awful lot of black bars - really wastefull. It's far easier to rip, transcode and burn.

[tweedledee]

I think you're right. The other day I took a few minutes from a movie useing the standalone dvd player and found it quick and easy, but a whole movie is a differant matter.

[FulciLives]

What do you want to do with the captured video? In other words what will be the end result? Do you want to make a DivX copy or a VCD copy or a SVCD copy or a DVD-R copy etc.?

I don't have much experience with capture cards but I understand it might be possible to capture straight to DivX for instance. I doubt the end result would be as good as ripping straight from the dvd and then encoding to DivX though. But I could see how capturing straight to DivX would take less time. It is also possible with some capture cards to capture straight to mpeg1 or mpeg2 but again there usually is a loss in quality.

If you intend to capture to an AVI format though with the intent of then converting that to another format (such as VCD or DivX or DVD or whatever) then you might as well just rip the DVD rather than capture it with a capture card.

I mean, in short, it just doesn't really make sense to capture from a DVD when you can just rip it and work in the digital realm

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

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[housepig]

The problem with this is going to be the way your graphics card displays the movie.

I tried to do a quick screen grab from an .avi I was playing, using the "print screen" command while I was in the Media Player... all I got was a nice picture of the Media Player with a black screen inside.

I think that Camtasia has the same problem - it's more for making movies for training purposes, so you can see mouse moves and windows being opened, but if you try to record streaming media or media player apps, you'll get the app, but not the movie being played.

I think Hypercam is another software that does this.

If I'm wrong, or there is another software that will capture live video playing on the desktop, I'd love to hear about it.

[tweedledee]

Thanks, I'll stick with ripping.

[Bob W]

I can't think of a single reason why someone would want to capture a DVD while playing it. Simply put it don't make a whole lot of sense. On my system I can rip a DVD then use DVD2one, and burn at 4x in about 45 minutes.

[gmatov]

Housepig,
I often have that problem, but if you clear the clipboard and try again, it should work. I have gotten lots of black screens, and a retry worked, maybe 2.
Tweedledee,
Are you simply trying to get some of your faves onto HDD so you can watch at any time?. I don't recall whether I ripped them or simply copied them to HDD, but with the VOBs on my HDD, WINDVD, and Media Player 9, usually, will play them. Be aware that they do take some room, not quite as much as a cap does (which is in real time, takes as long as the movie does to play), but a capture may take not much room or tons, depending onyour settings.
1/4DVD, 1/2 DVD, NTSC SCVD, etc. My pinnacle did not give me these options. My TV@nywhere is supposed to capture in a dozen or so formats. I just went thru the "toolbox" and "clipped" the dialogue boxes, to show how much movie each format would occupy onthe hard drive. Anywhere from 10 to 50 hours on the remaining 30 gigabytes I have on the capture drive selected.. I'll compress them as much as I can, and if anyone can telll me how to upload them, if they aren't still too big, I'll post them.
One caveat is that, even tho' I've had the card for 4 or 5 months, I haven't capped anything more than a test, so don't know the quality. I'm going to try that as soon as I can get the damned sound to work with it.

[tweedledee]

If I want the whole movie I will rip, but sometimes I'm looking for just a few minutes, and the quality is not important.

[gmatov]

-Tweedledee,
Then maybe a capture would be your best bet. Play, fast forward, search, with the slider,capture. Only have what you want. If it's really just a minute or 3, quality, and size, wouldn't matter. Cap at the highest setting.

[vance43211]

power vcr II. i used to use it for the reason u are

[tweedledee]

I have had a look at Powervcr but that can only capture from a TV or video source.

[masterchipper]

perhaps he wants to save a small segment of a movie such as a "hot scene from an adult movie"?

MC

[tweedledee]

Good idea, wish I had thought about that. Actually, I'm collecting famous movie clips such as "go ahead...make my day" or " I'll be back" and even the oldies like "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" and many, many more. Your suggestions are welcome.

[vance43211]

i read this at cyberlink web page for powerdvd. it seems u can bookmark your video and save it


"PowerDVD comes in two packages: Deluxe ($69.95) and Standard ($49.95). Deluxe offers DTS Digital Surround and SRS TruSurround XT audio support. Both share a range of audio- and video-related features that equal or exceed those offered by other software DVD players; you get Dolby Headphone, which enhances audio playback for headphone users, and Pro Logic II support, which makes dual speaker systems sound more like 5.1-speaker surround sound.

The program's interface is bright and compact. You'll find basic playback controls logically presented in a small wheel on the right of the player, with a pull-out panel just beyond that lets you change camera angles and create and jump to bookmarks. (These bookmarks themselves are handy, too: they let you jump back to random playback locations in the movie.) PowerDVD also lets you export bookmarks as a separate BMK file that you can e-mail to your friends and associates, allowing you to share your video highlights with other users or on multiple computers. "

[housepig]

you could also use Chopper or ChopperXP - rip the files, find the one you want the scene from, cut the scene out with Chopper, delete the rest of the files.

then convert to the format of your choice.

[MOVIEGEEK]

@tweedledee,
If you want just section of a DVD use DVDx(free in Tools).Load your DVD,move the time slider to desired start point,hit the big red button to start and again to stop.
DVDx is nice because of it's customizable output(MPEG-1/2 or AVI).