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I have a lot of video files on my PC that is hooked up to my TV. My wife hates the widescreen format and I am trying to figure out how to convert my files from widescreen to full screen.
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Option 1: get a wide screen TV
Option 2: use a player that can zoom letterbox to fill the screen vertically (you will miss any side action).
Option 3: spend hours to days "converting" files. Or show the wife how to do it. See how long it takes before she thinks letterbox is OK after all.Recommends: Kiva.org - Loans that change lives.
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Why would ANYONE want to purposely loose 1/3 of the image by chopping off the ends of a widescreen movie? I've never been able to comprehend that! Has it ever occurred to her why there are no longer full screen large screen TVs? There is a reason why they are 16x9.
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Wife or not she ain't making me watch my movies butchered.
Sounds like both mattman59 and jmkeuning are pussy-whipped.
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If its on your pc and your playing it from your pc then dvd software can automatically zoom in on your video.
In powerdvd for example you right click and select pan and scan - then select the aspect ratio - 1.85:1 or 2.35:1. Then it will automatically zoom in and fill the entire screen. It will stay fixed in that zoomed state - whatever happens on either side of the center will not be shown - you will only see the center portion of the movie - though at least in powerdvd I believe you can manually pan and scan with the mouse but you will have to recenter it yourself so you'd be better off leaving it in the center.
Most dvd player software should have a similar feature. Also powerdvd can play other file formats - I don't know its limitations but it can play mpg files for sure. This is easier than hardcoding them to fullscreen.Donatello - The Shredder? Michelangelo - Maybe all that hardware is for making coleslaw? -
Also, ZoomPlayer is designed for this sort of thing. As I remember, use the scroll wheel on the mouse to zoom as much or as little as you like. Keep them widescreen for when it's only you watching, but zoom in to fill the screen to keep her happy.
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I bet the reason was so that customers wouldn't be able to complain anymore about "those chopped off portions at the top and the bottom of the picture"..Originally Posted by jtoolman2000
One of the very few cases in which they really chopped off portions at the top and the bottom is the premiere episode of "Enterprise", and some scenes in the next 5 episodes or so. They were originally shooting it for 4:3 before deciding to switch to 16:9, and apparently the first episode was already finished by then.
My personal choice to demonstrate how bad a movie would look like by chopping off the sides would be "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly". Don't get a Pan&Scan version, just get the widescreen one and manually reencode it chopping the sides off (keeping the center area all the time), or do as others have suggested and use some software player's zoom option (but I'd rather choose the encode so that she isn't able to manually pan to the sides anymore). -
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And the correct answer is?Originally Posted by SWBisbee
The consensus so far is zoom the picture to fill the vertical. I can do this on my TV "Expand 4:3 mode", on my DVD player "zoom" an on PowerDVD from the computer. -
@SWBisbee - if you don't have the answer to give him, then have contributed nothing at all.
There is no "good way" to do what the OP is asking. Any attempt to simply crop off the ends will result in a low quality, poorly framed output, requiring way more work that the outcome justifies. The simplest solution, if he must fill the screen to keep his wife happy, is to use the zoom feature. It does the same job, much faster.
Otherwise, learn how to use Virtualdubmpeg2's resize cropping and filters, as well as how to frameserve, encode and author.Read my blog here.
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It must be worth it!Originally Posted by FulciLives
SWB, I think Ed answered it with the first reply, pretty clear -
If I had the answer I would have told him so, I thought the point of this
site was VIDEO HELP, not people making stupid remarks, there are some who come
to this site to learn, for myself I would like hear some good answers about wide to full screen
conversion instead of people saying it,s a waste of time to do the conversion.
Learning something new is never a waste of time. So the person who told me I have nothing
to contribute must be genius or a know it all!! So lets see if you can answer the question, so
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See the part of your response that I turned into BOLD text?Originally Posted by SWBisbee
See we disagree on that point.
It can be a detriment to learn something new when the thing you are learning is a DUMB thing.
Converting WS to FS is a DUMB thing to do. So no point in learning how to do it.
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Telling him not to waste time IS helping him.
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I know a number of different methods for doing it. However, as I said in my earlier post, there is no good way of doing it. Ever watched a Pan and Scan version of a movie on TV - if the studios and TV stations can't make it work, what makes you think you can with virtualdub and a PC ?
If you seriously want to try, all the information you need is in various posts around this forum. Posts of resizing and cropping using avisynth, posts on frameserving with DGIndex, posts on encoding. There is plenty around. I have never asked for (nor wanted to know) a specific method to do this. But I know exactly how because I can piece together all the parts required from around the site. It is not a difficult thing to do.
The only situation I can see where I *might* want to do this would be mixing 4:3 and 16:9 video material into a single project. And in that instance, I would be more likely to crop the 4:3 down to widescreen anyway. Hint : I would only ever do it in an editor because virtualdub and avisynth cannot do the keyframing required to even come close to an acceptable outcome.Read my blog here.
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Why is it dumb?
Because you say so, who made you the expert video help.com or did you listen so someone like
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If you want to do it the way "full screen" commercial DVDs were mastered read here first.Originally Posted by SWBisbee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_and_scan
They had the advantage of working from a higher resolution film master so they could freely zoom without loosing resolution. If you do this from 720x480 video about all you can do is fake a camera pan. Many scenes require moving crops to follow action. Splined motion controls found in most mid-high end editors can manage this.
Expect the above to take about 4-12 hours per movie plus motion render and encoding time. A zoom button is easier.Originally Posted by mattman59 -
Thank you, thats all I was waiting for, a good solid answer, not this bs from
FulciLives wrote:
Wife or not she ain't making me watch my movies butchered.
Sounds like both mattman59 and jmkeuning are pussy-whipped.
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Before this turns out to be an all out shooting match, LOL, Mattman, its not practical, cannot be done. Learn to live with widescreen, tell your wife to learn to live with widescreen. Listen to the good advise given by the others. (well, some of them at least !)
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I only tell the truth ... no BS. Granted it may be my own twisted version of the truth but that works for me. I mean either I'm right or your wrong.Originally Posted by SWBisbee
Well you haven't learned much if you think WS to FS is good knowledge to haveOriginally Posted by SWBisbee
I hope that is referring to the people who attempted to explain how to do WS to FS and not to little 'ol me 8)Originally Posted by cyflyer
I love you all.
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No shouting match was intended, the fact is several attemps have been made by other people
to get a answer about ws to full screen conversion, so if someone want to try it, nobody has the right to tell
them its a waste of time, let them try it, with of course some help from you people, just point
us in the right direction, and don't say the right direction is it can't be done, or I'm not going to
waste my time in showing you. As i said nothing but nothing is a waste of time if you are learning
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OK I changed my mind ... slightly.Originally Posted by SWBisbee
When I said, "I love you all" ... well ... that doesn't include you :P
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I've got a friend [Marcos] who doesn't like Wide Screen ... this was about 2 years ago.Originally Posted by SWBisbee
One day ... he told me he was watching a wide screen DVD movie with the zoom feature filling in his TV ... to 4:3.
He kept seeing the main actor talking to somebody ... and this invisible person carrying on a conversation back at him ... eventually ... he decided to unzoom and see if this invisible person would appear.
Whoa !!!!! .... Magic .......... Yeah Dudes ... stick with your square TVs and enjoy.
Mean time ... I will enjoy watching 16:9 movies on my 51" High Def TV.
Madonna Live ... Nov 22nd last Wednesday night was broadcast on NBC ... over the air [OTA] and it looked great. Filled my screen from corner to corner. She has some really nice legs 8) -
If you think we are being mean ... then check out this postOriginally Posted by SWBisbee
I ripped the DVD and it's 6.50gb!!
https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=214114&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Oh we really had fun with this one ... check out some of the comments
I like the posts that go like this, "I heard DVD+R is better because it is a PLUS format. So why do so many people seem to prefer that MINUS format?"
- John "FulciLives" Colemanlike the posts that go
i wanna cut out things , edit things, add some of my things, remove security, shrink to fit , but i dont want to re-encodeI read this site because I enjoy the jokes and smart alec remarks. DOOM seems too "anal retentive" I love it when "fulcilives" drops off his medication and slams into an unsuspecting newbe. BTW, don't flame ME, or I'll sulk.Here is my post ...tweedledee wrote:
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nope, but I started looking for basic info on this site by reading the posts, sadly most were filled with smart alec remarks because someone asked a simple question. it took me many more hours than it should, because I did not want to be the brunt of your "inside" jokes.
I read this site because I enjoy the jokes and smart alec remarks. DOOM seems too "anal retentive" I love it when "fulcilives" drops off his medication and slams into an unsuspecting newbe. BTW, don't flame ME, or I'll sulk.
LOL Thank you very much!
However I just got my 2nd YELLOW WARNING BOX THING not that long ago for comments on the USE ZOOM ON DVD PLAYER FOR FULLSCREEN INSTEAD OF WIDESCREEN thread.
In short I'm trying to be good ... but usually that only lasts so long ...
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Yeah, build the ISO, use WinRAR. Make each archive 2MB and prepare a few thousand or so floppy disks
Next week LexCorp will be coming out with single layer 7GB DVD disks not sure if they will be plus or minus disks. To be Announced later.
I think those will work a lot better than trying to place a 90 minute movie on floppy disks.
Supposely the material used to make the disks is derived from Kryptonite. But it will take a Green Laser to use their full potential.
Lex Luthor will be in charge of the new factory located outside of Smallville, Kansas ... next to the Fertilizer Plant.
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all of you just shut the **** up and stop acting like immature juveniles!
the OP asked a question that some of you may feel is dumb. If you think that then just ignore the ******* question and go help someone you think is worthy of being helped. The site is called Videohelp not Videotakethepiss or VideolookatmeI'macoolwisecracker
@jtoolman2000, some people may not be able to afford (or don't want) a widescreen TV and therefore have to make do with a 4:3. Is that a simple enough answer for you?. Even more so his wife might be stunning and give him sex on demand so would you refuse her wishes? OK I'm taking the piss now but some husbands do respect their wives and watching letterbox on a non large 4:3 is pretty shite if you ask me so again no harm in the guy asking 
it's the wise crack replies that sometimes spoil this great site as people then join the pack and have a laugh at someone else's expense and then it turns messy. What's even more stupid and lame are the people who then defend the pointless posts when someone raises a concern
It sometimes also fills the thread with shite and then the few answers that are on topic get swamped and go unseen. I'm quite knowledgeable yet I've still learnt something from this thread (I enjoy wiki sometimes) if I ignore the shit. So therefore is this thread useless seeing as at least one person (probably a few more) learnt something?
some of you should hang your heads in shame as there is no ******* excuse in trying to argue the point that SWBisbee is raising. The guy is right and the less shit we see here the better it makes this place 8)
grow up FFS and move on instead!
p.s. someone even went as far as dragging a 2 year old thread and replying to it and that's why I'm here!
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The fact is, while it could be done, it's highly impractical since it would take several hours per video and the results would be of lesser quality. Telling him to forget about it is in his best interest.
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fact is machf, that there was still an answer to their problem but not the one they were looking for. They don't have to convert and could just simply use a zoom/crop feature of a software player seeing as they were using the PC output to a TV. I did this years ago and I think I used ATI player as you could simply select which area of the video to view. It wouldn't have to be a full 4:3 but rather just cropping a little of the edges off so you can see the picture a little bigger than a tiny letterbox and you are not sacrificing as much just to get a bigger picture
just because it seems like a dumb question to someone doesn't mean it gives them the right to start acting childish and start acting all 'guruish' and ask why on earth they would want to do something or make their decision for them and say that they shouldn't do it
there is a way to tell someone you can't do something easily or shouldn't do it at all and yeah we all get the point it isn't easy in this case but a simple lazy ass reply "don't bother (plus some cheap ass reply)" isn't exactly a great response is it?. That's what the discussion is about here as some answers didn't even help at all and even so, edDV gave the alternate answers I would expect and not some cheap lazy ass response 8)
that's the big difference mate and that's what makes a site much better when you have more people prepared to answer what may seem like trivial stuff to them rather than posting crap when they see a 'dumb' question 8)
The real fact here is that there are those who then choose to defend their actions just so they can do it again and again and feel good in themselves My heroes!
p.s. I'm not talking about anyone in general but rather the forum as a whole as this is just one thread
plus you would know who you are anyway
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BINGO! That's what four or five of us have already been telling the original poster. That is the simplest easiest way to get fullscreen out of a widescreen movie. No reencoding neccessary and the original file stays intact.Originally Posted by mackemxDonatello - The Shredder? Michelangelo - Maybe all that hardware is for making coleslaw?
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