where is firefox's cache folder, the one with the images ?

[hello_hello]

Not sure why software developers decide it'd better to take all your options away but thank God there are better developers smart enough to know how to defeat the options that they try to force down our throats. I guess they turned on scripting with no way to turn it off also unless you go into about:config and turn it off or use a couple of different add-ons. I use scripting in Firefox so I guess it's not a problem.

It's partly in preparation for the new Australis theme (about which I'm a little dubious) and partly due to the theory historical baggage is not always a good thing when it's only being kept for a very, very tiny percentage of users, and I guess because there's still the option for someone to change the default behaviour via an extension.
Personally, I think out of the box Firefox's tabbed browsing sucks on pretty much a par with all browsers, but fortunately TabMixPlus fixes that.

[vhelp]

i'm confused

whats the issue with tabs anyway ?

. firefox .
i use tabs all the time. i'm using version 19.0.2 and the tabs work fine for me. i could not live without them. i also like that you can move them around, especially when you are on this forum board and when a topic is many pages, i like to have my pages in order, so i move the tab.. you know, page 1 page 2 page 3, not p3, p2, p1. i mean. well anyway.

. opera .
the one thing i miss that opera used to have before they took that out a very long ago (i haven't found a way to resolve) is when you are in a current tab3 and you select, say, tab20, and then want to go back to tab3, you used to hit tab20 again and it would bounce you back to your last tab, tab3 in this case. and also, that it would follow all table navagation history that way since you started up opera that day. i forget the term used for that. but i miss that in opera when i use it, which is on my netbook computer. firefox does not have that feature. the closest it has to it, is ctrl+tab-key to move forward, and ctrl+shift+tab-key to move backward.

. home-made browser .
by the way, in an effort to create have best of both worlds, among other reasons, i've been chiseling my own browser. but my own version of tabing is buggy and i can't get past the constant pop-up script errors. still trying to figure out how to stop that from happening. all this is in delphi code.

[jagabo]

i'm confused

whats the issue with tabs anyway ?

. firefox .

Firefox used to have the option of not displaying the tab bar when there is only one page being viewed, leaving more room for the page.

[hello_hello]

i'm confused

whats the issue with tabs anyway ?

. firefox .
i use tabs all the time. i'm using version 19.0.2 and the tabs work fine for me. i could not live without them. i also like that you can move them around, especially when you are on this forum board and when a topic is many pages, i like to have my pages in order, so i move the tab.. you know, page 1 page 2 page 3, not p3, p2, p1. i mean. well anyway.

For reasons which will forever be a mystery to me, some people don't like them. Why anyone would use multiple windows instead..... In fact when I'm ruler of the world, any program capable of opening multiple windows will be required to allow the user to at least choose to have tabs instead. Many do, some still don't. Does Adobe's PDF Reader have tabs like Foxit yet?
That's one of the reasons I use Lotus Symphony.... Documents, Speadsheets, Presentations.... all in a single window using tabs.

[jagabo]

Sometimes you need to see things side by side. I hate tabs. They're just a waste of vertical space on 16:9 screens where vertical space is in short supply. Windows already has a tab bar -- the start bar.

[hello_hello]

Sometimes you need to see things side by side. I hate tabs. They're just a waste of space.

A whole quarter/half an inch of space. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. The loss of half an inch of space is easily made up for by the convenience of tabs. How else do you open a page (for example a forum index here) and peruse through it while opening and loading links in the background as you continue reading?

You're right though... sometimes side by side is good.... so an extension which allows you to tile tabs would be handy, or maybe one which lets you drag a tab to split the window and open it in the second half.... even synchronise their scrolling if you want it to.
Or to reminisce over the good old days, you could simply right click on a link and select "open in new window" instead of using a tab, and then resize each window yourself. But of course you can drag and drop tabs between windows, or right click on one and select "move to new window"...... even if just to group them that way... ie Window "A" with pages from videohelp open in tabs, window "B" dedicated to tabs displaying porn etc.

Even the file manager I use has tabs, but it's dual pane capable, each pane with tabs, so you get the best of both worlds. Windows Explorer is as frustrating as a tabless browser by comparison.

[hello_hello]

They're just a waste of vertical space on 16:9 screens where vertical space is in short supply. Windows already has a tab bar -- the start bar.

You could probably use tabs without a tab bar. Not quite as convenient (and I know which tabs I've viewed according to the tab's text colour), but in my opinion it'd probably still be better than multiple windows.

[jagabo]

I just like the one-window-one-document paradigm.

[vhelp]

you can do the same thing in firefox..when i need that extra little bit more space, i right-click the {+} tab and uncheck the 'menu' and it flushes up to the caption bar, like that example in post # 37 above. and if you double-click the blue caption bar, it fills that space too. but seldom need it. me, i prefer the tabs.

[TreeTops]

Hitting F11 is better. You get the whole screen without any clutter. (For Firefox)

[hello_hello]

Hitting F11 is better. You get the whole screen without any clutter. (For Firefox)

Very true. You get all the screen real estate for web pages, and F11 a second time gives you back your tabs for switching between them. It's still got to be easier than multiple windows without tabs.

[DarrellS]

I hate tabs. They're just a waste of vertical space on 16:9 screens where vertical space is in short supply. Windows already has a tab bar -- the start bar.

Exactly! The Start Bar is where I do most of my work from. I use the Quick Launch Bar to open programs that I need to use when I'm online so I don't have to keep showing the desktop to get to my shortcuts. I keep at least one Explorer window open to get to files and folders and all of my browser windows are opened on the Task Bar for easy access. I can do everything I need to do from the Start/Task Bar without the need for any other bars. I do like the skinny add-on bar at the bottom though to make it easy to get to add-ons and scripts since it takes up hardly any space.

I worked very hard to set all my browsers up the same way. Getting rid of the Bookmarks bar which takes up more space and is redundant since you already have Bookmarks on the Menu Bar. Adding a Links Folder on the Menu Bar to get to my most favorite websites like IE6 had. Using a userscript to move "Open in a new window" to the top in Firefox so you don't accidently click "Open in a new Tab" (Even tabbed browsing users were outraged when they flip flopped the options because they were used to clicking the second option). There used to be a script to completely remove Tabbed browsing in Firefox so there were no Tab options in the context menu but I guess the developer got tired of updating it ever two months or so when Firefox felt they needed to update. Opera removed the ability to right click, open bookmark in a new window even though it's still in the context menu. You can set it up to click the middle button of your mouse to open in a new window though.

All you have to do is google and you'll find a ton of posts where users are outraged when options are removed. We may be a minority but there are still a lot of us. People begged the creator of MediaInfo for years to add an option to open the window in a certain size instead of a small window that you had to manually adjust to view all the info. He resisted but after years he finally released a version where you could open it to show all the info. Two people complained about the bigger window in the forum and it was removed instead of giving users the option to open either way.

Options is all we want. Everyone has different tastes but when you lose options that you had for years because the developer feels your needs don't matter anymore then it's frustrating. Windows 7(or 8) may be a great OS but when they took most of the user options away that we had in XP and forced everyone to adapt to a totally new OS then I refused to join the masses. XP does everything I need it to do and I get to keep all the options that I'm used to and that I like. I know, I could just run it in XP mode but what is the use when I can just use XP. Someday I'm sure I'll have to adapt but for now, I'll keep using XP.

[hello_hello]

Getting rid of the Bookmarks bar which takes up more space and is redundant since you already have Bookmarks on the Menu Bar. Adding a Links Folder on the Menu Bar to get to my most favorite websites like IE6 had.

Like this? http://www.iosart.com/firefox/plainoldfavorites/

Using a userscript to move "Open in a new window" to the top in Firefox so you don't accidently click "Open in a new Tab" (Even tabbed browsing users were outraged when they flip flopped the options because they were used to clicking the second option).

I'm not sure why anyone would right click when you can middle click links instead, but I must have missed the outrage there. Maybe because I've been using this extension for as long as I can remember. http://menueditor.mozdev.org/

[DarrellS]

The plainoldfavorites looks interesting. Might've tried it but I manually set everything up and just back up my profile folder so if an update borks my settings I just install the profile backup.

I remember using the menu editor before but it didn't work if I remember correctly. I also tried changing the script in Opera as per instructions but there was no option for opening in a new window.

The reason that someone would want to right click is because that has always been the way to do it. I've never seen another software where the middle button took the place of the right click button. That is why it's called the right click context menu. Some mice don't even have a middle button. The right click button in Opera serves the same purpose as the left click button. Why would you need two left click buttons?

EDIT: Looks like Opera doesn't even have a right click context menu anymore which makes sense I guess since it didn't work anyway. Well, parts of it did but...

[jagabo]

I'm not sure why anyone would right click when you can middle click links instead

I use the middle mouse button for a screen magnifier. Given that I work with video a lot I find that much more important.

[hello_hello]

The reason that someone would want to right click is because that has always been the way to do it.

If you can configure a simple (often used) task using a single click, whether it be a left or middle click, why wouldn't you do so rather than use a method which requires you to click once, choose an option from a menu and click again? Not doing so simply because the latter method has always been the traditional one would be kind of odd, in my opinion.

I have Firefox configured to open links in the current tab if I left click on them, and open them in a background tab if I middle click so I can keep reading without the new page opening in my way. You could probably configure Firefox to open links in a new window via a left/middle click if you chose to (maybe with the help of an extension such as TabMixPlus) so you wouldn't need to be right clicking and using a menu for every link, but of course windows instead of tabs would make surfing slower/harder/way more frustrating, so I wouldn't do that myself.
Right click gives me the usual options, plus a few unusual ones I've added via extensions, but naturally I have left and middle click set so between them they can open links the way I want to 99% of the time.

Some mice don't even have a middle button.

I guess if the mouse you're using doesn't have a middle button you'd have to do it the hard way, although I can't remember the last time I came across one of those, but please tell me you at least scroll with the scroll wheel ocassionally, or use it for adjusting a players volume or for navigating etc, or do you refuse to use it because not all mice have them?

I've never seen another software where the middle button took the place of the right click button. That is why it's called the right click context menu.

It doesn't take the place of the right click button as such, it's generally a one-click shortcut to one of the options under the right click menu. Double clicking is effectively the same. Do you ever double click on a file to open it or do you always use the right click menu?
I'd be guessing if mice with middle click buttons had been commonplace in the early days of computing, we'd all be doing a lot more middle clicking and a lot less double clicking today.

Are you sure you configured Opera correctly?
I've tried Opera a couple of times but I've never liked it so I don't really know what it does or why it does it.

[hello_hello]

I use the middle mouse button for a screen magnifier. Given that I work with video a lot I find that much more important.

I'd be hoping for a bit more control myself, given I use the middle mouse button for other things. For example I watch video a lot, so I like using it for switching in and out of fullscreen mode while left click pauses and restarts.
Maybe something like Ctrl+middle click for opening the screen magnifier, so I'm still free to use the middle click button the way I'd like to the rest of the time..... such as for scrolling webpages. When I'm not using it to click on links I often middle click on a page to scroll rather than use the scrollbar. It's usually way faster to drag a page up or down a little that way, and makes more sense to me than using the left/right buttons which are needed for selecting stuff and right click menu bothering. Middle and left click on the scrollbar area behave differently using Firefox anyway. Left click scrolls by a step in the usual manner. Middle click scrolls to the cursor location (a shortcut for right click/scroll here). Might as well use it.
Or if I'm typing a reply in a forum such as this one, having middle click automatically become a shortcut for Ctrl+V while the cursor is in the reply box saves a little right clicking and menu bothering too.

[DarrellS]

I guess if the mouse you're using doesn't have a middle button you'd have to do it the hard way, although I can't remember the last time I came across one of those, but please tell me you at least scroll with the scroll wheel occassionally, or use it for adjusting a players volume or for navigating etc, or do you refuse to use it because not all mice have them?

Of coarse I do. That's what it's for

My brother likes the mouse with extra side buttons but those drive me crazy since I'm always accidently clicking them. I like to cuddle my mouse with my thumb and next to last finger. My little finger rests on the mouse pad. I used to use my graphics tablet as the mouse pad but I wore the last one out. I don't like a big mouse and the dinky wireless laptop mouse is a little to small. The one I'm using (Logitech M315) is just right. Not sure what model the one I had before was (they stopped making it) but it had a lot better control when working with graphics. This one is a little shaky. Wireless is the only way to go though. I could just use my pen as a mouse but it's kinda awkward.

EDIT: I am having problems on certain sites using the scroller but I believe it's another Firefox problem since I don't have that problem on those sites using Opera or Chrome. I tried all the mouse settings I could find in Firefox and Windows but the problem did't go away.

[hello_hello]

Of coarse I do. That's what it's for

I'm still trying to see the imaginary line in the sand with a scroll wheel on one side being used because that's what it's there for, and a middle button on the other not being used because.... no I'm still not even understanding the reason.

EDIT: I am having problems on certain sites using the scroller but I believe it's another Firefox problem since I don't have that problem on those sites using Opera or Chrome. I tried all the mouse settings I could find in Firefox and Windows but the problem did't go away.

It could be a Logitech thing. I've been using Logitech mice exclusively for years (I can't remember the model number of this mouse, but M** sounds familiar) and when I replace one, it's always because the scroll wheel stops working properly. The old Pentium PC out in the other room used for occasional surfing has one of my older Logitech mice with a dead scrollwheel. There's a Logitech mouse in my "spares" draw with a dodgy scroll wheel. The mouse connected to this PC has a scrollwheel which stops working every now and then. I've been meaning to replace it for a while as it can be annoying.
I used to use Microsoft mice (Explorer, I think) years ago but they changed the design and I hated it, so I switched to Logitech, but the scrollwheel thing has me finally reconsidering that.

Anyway.... while one scrollwheel was dying a while back I thought exactly the same thing.... it was a Firefox issue.... but it turned out to be just co-incidence. Firefox is probably the program where I use the scrollwheel most. As I said, I have the same problem with this mouse. I scroll and nothing happens, but if I jiggle it a little from side to side it starts working again. It may also be due to Firefox's scrolling being more sensitive to scrolling speed than other programs which makes the problem more noticeable. I use the SmoothWheel extension so for me it probably does.
All my Logitech mice have been wired models as they're connected to PCs which never get moved, except the wireless mouse next to my bed which I use for playing video. I think it's an M315.

I agree regarding the additional mouse buttons. I tend to loath them myself. It's very easy to knock the back/forward buttons accidentally. I kind of remember at one stage they weren't natively supported by Windows so they wouldn't work unless you installed third party mouse drivers, which was great, as the solution was to simply never install mouse drivers, but if that's correct at some stage they must have become natively supported by Windows. Possibly after Bill gates noticed another brand of mouse had additional buttons and realised he could copy the idea himself.
It's probably possible to re-map the mouse back/forward buttons to another functions, or maybe even disable them completely. In fact as I have AutoHotkey installed and already use it regularly, and as I know it has the ability to remap keys on your keyboard, I took a quick trip the the AutoHotkey website, and sure enough, it doesn't look like remapping/disabling those mouse buttons should be too hard. I should get around to doing it myself. Once you get your head around it, AutoHotkey isn't too hard to use. When you have a working "script' or scripts, you can just stick them in the Startup folder in the start menu so they automatically run every reboot. I sometimes use an AutoHotkey shortcut for something, and when nothing happens I remember it's because I'm not using my PC. There's lots of script templates on the AutoHotkey site too.
I probably should also investigate whether I can get AutoHotkey to effectively replace FirstCap, otherwise chances are I'll be using XP forever.

[vhelp]

hi, revisiting an old discussion. i need to download some images. testing yet another app (from an older project) that couldn't work since i don't have TIDhttp unit (delphi 6 limitation and lack of indy, etc) but finally found all the necessary .pas and .dcu files to recompile all that, just to get a downloader feature working. i'm trying different methods of downloading images and things. anyway. some of the sites posted earlier are no longer working, or not working with the new method i'm using. i went directly to the site but none of the image are showing though links pop up in my apps listing. anyway.

does anyone know of some website that have images (preferably in a list view, like .png files) that i can test my app freely with ?

i'm looking for small files to test downloading, not big files since i'm only on DSL speed. thank you.

[vhelp]

when did ff change the behaviour of 'cache viewer' ?

i mean. it does not display any images when scroll up/down the list. and if i double-click it, it opens inside the browser, which is not what i want. i was searching for an image and tried to the cache viewer, since i can't find the actual cache folder--it must be well hidden now.

[jagabo]

Enter "about:config" in the address bar. Scroll down to browser.cache.disk.parent_directory.

[TreeTops]

That's not there in Firefox 26.

[vhelp]

i'm running version 24, so i'll check when i get back from work..thanks.

[jagabo]

That's not there in Firefox 26.

It's there for me in version 26. Maybe I added it when I changed the default location to a RAM drive a few years ago.

On another system running an older version of Firefox the default cache location is:

C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Firefox\Pr ofiles\82vex913.default\cache...

The "82vex913.default" appears to vary from computer to computer. And, of course, "Username" is the user name you're logged in as.

[Ai Haibara]

"82vex913.default" is the string Mozilla programs use to identify the users. The "82vex913" part is the internal ID, if I remember correctly, and the "default" part is the actual username for that particular profile.

[vhelp]

i wasn't able to find it either. but luckly, thanks to your tip (the 82vex913.default tipped me off) , i found the folder location.

C:\Documents and Settings\computer_name\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\6mpj58rl.default

that did it, thank you..

[jagabo]

C:\Documents and Settings\...

That must be XP. I'm on Win7.

[vhelp]

so i had a look at the folder and all i see are random, single, cryptic filenames with no ext names. i.e., "EEEA5d01" per folder. i guess its time to add a search feature to one of my dir listers to selectively view the first few chars to determine if it is a image, video, swf, etc. file. what a mess and pain. this is something i would usually create in the event i can't view cached files and need a crude way to do as an alternative.