MPC-HC & Potplayer.How can I avoid aliasing of progressive fullHD videos?

[Stears555]

Hello guys!

MPC-HC & Potplayer.

How can I avoid aliasing of progressive fullHD videos in little video-windows?

Thank you for your reply!

[Selur]

Aliasing normally and other playback problems are normally due to:
a. the graphic card drivers used
b. a problem with the resizer used
c. a problem with the display renderer used
d. a problem with the source
e. a broken decoder

Never used Potplayer and like a lot of people I use MPC-HC in Combo with LAV Filters + xy-vsfilter and MadVR.
There are a bunch of guides out there which explain how to setup this combo. (google if you like to know)

[Stears555]

I installed xy-vsfilter, but How can I activate it on MPC-HC? I can't find it on external filters...

Madvr was good in windows xp. It is not work on my Windows Vista and windows7 systems. After the instalation of MADVR, I can't activate it. MPCH-HC says: "Madvr unavaiable" in video output formats.

[Selur]

a. it might work without having to specidy it
b. if xy-Filters is listed, it is listed as DirectVobSub
-> https://azurehakua.wordpress.com/2012/02/23/mpc-hc-lav-filters-xy-vsfilter-madvr/

[Stears555]

a. it might work without having to specidy it
b. if xy-Filters is listed, it is listed as DirectVobSub
-> https://azurehakua.wordpress.com/2012/02/23/mpc-hc-lav-filters-xy-vsfilter-madvr/

Directvobsub is unable to play progressive segmented frame videos properly.
Madvr is a "32bit only" application...

[Selur]

Madvr is a "32bit only" application...

I know, so? If you go a good reason to use a 64bit video player, than you can't use MadVR. see: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146228 for some comparison pictures between MadVR and other renderers.

Directvobsub is unable to play progressive segmented frame videos properly.

If are you dealing with 'progressive segmented frame videos' you probably need to look for another filter that can handle subtitles if vsfilter and xy-vsfilter can't handle those. (until now I never ran into that problem)

[Stears555]

Madvr is a "32bit only" application...

I know, so? If you go a good reason to use a 64bit video player, than you can't use MadVR. see: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146228 for some comparison pictures between MadVR and other renderers.

Directvobsub is unable to play progressive segmented frame videos properly.

If are you dealing with 'progressive segmented frame videos' you probably need to look for another filter that can handle subtitles if vsfilter and xy-vsfilter can't handle those. (until now I never ran into that problem)

Just try it: http://dictaphone.atw.hu/mozdony.MTS (It's only 67Mbyte)

[Selur]

If you encounter aliasing using MadVR it's probably due to the resizer that is used for down scaling.
MadVR settings allow you to select a different one, than the default. (personally I use Bicubic@75 sharpness)
-> if you are not using MadVR you might want to use a renderer that also allows you to specify a different resizer for downscaling.

[Stears555]

If you encounter aliasing using MadVR it's probably due to the resizer that is used for down scaling.
MadVR settings allow you to select a different one, than the default. (personally I use Bicubic@75 sharpness)
-> if you are not using MadVR you might want to use a renderer that also allows you to specify a different resizer for downscaling.

I don't want to use MadVR, because it's a non-x64 tool.
Has the MPC-HC an own internal resizer? And where can I find it?

[Selur]

Has the MPC-HC an own internal resizer? And where can I find it?

Options->Playback->Output allows yo to select the renderer that is used in MPC-HC, depending on you selections you can also select the VSYNC resizer, not sure if it helps, since I use MadVR.

[Stears555]

Has the MPC-HC an own internal resizer? And where can I find it?

Options->Playback->Output allows yo to select the renderer that is used in MPC-HC, depending on you selections you can also select the VSYNC resizer, not sure if it helps, since I use MadVR.

Why don't you use the Potplayer instead of MPC-HC? It has more options and filters than MPC-hc.

[Selur]

Don't need more options and filters I don't use. I'm happy with the filters I named.

[Stears555]

Don't need more options and filters I don't use. I'm happy with the filters I named.

The little Nonverbla flash web-video player can play fullHD contents in a small video-window without any aliasing, but the special video players are unable to do that internally?

Isn't it laughable?

[Selur]

The little Nonverbla flash web-video player can play fullHD contents in a small video-window without any aliasing, but the special video players are unable to do that internally?

a. it's the adobe flash player that does the playback (nonverblaster is only a wrapper for it and does not do any rendering), so it's not doing it internally either. + the flash player only does it if it's told to use another resizer than the default by setting smoothing = true.
b. like nonverblaster most of the players around are 'just' different guis that use different spliter/filter/decoder/renderer in the background. So unless they use a filter/renderer which allows to change the resizing they can't do much. (if flash player didn't allow to enable smoothing, most flash players couldn't do it either)

[Stears555]

The little Nonverbla flash web-video player can play fullHD contents in a small video-window without any aliasing, but the special video players are unable to do that internally?

a. it's the adobe flash player that does the playback (nonverblaster is only a wrapper for it and does not do any rendering), so it's not doing it internally either. + the flash player only does it if it's told to use another resizer than the default by setting smoothing = true.
b. like nonverblaster most of the players around are 'just' different guis that use different spliter/filter/decoder/renderer in the background. So unless they use a filter/renderer which allows to change the resizing they can't do much. (if flash player didn't allow to enable smoothing, most flash players couldn't do it either)

I knew that the flashplayer works on the backgound, but it is simple ridiculous thing that a professional video player can't handle it internally.

[jagabo]

Has the MPC-HC an own internal resizer? And where can I find it?

Options->Playback->Output allows yo to select the renderer that is used in MPC-HC,

This. And set the resizing algorithm. It's the graphics card that is doing the resizing, not MPCHC. If you still have problems update ther graphics card drivers.

[Stears555]

Has the MPC-HC an own internal resizer? And where can I find it?

Options->Playback->Output allows yo to select the renderer that is used in MPC-HC,

This. And set the resizing algorithm. It's the graphics card that is doing the resizing, not MPCHC. If you still have problems update ther graphics card drivers.

HI!

Where can I set the resizing algorithm?

I've geforce GTX 670, and I've always use the newest drivers.

Where can I find the options for smooth play?

[jagabo]

Where can I set the resizing algorithm?

Exactly where Sulur pointed. Options->Playback->Output:



This isn't MPCHC's resizer, it's where MPCHC tells the graphic card which resizing algorithm is preferred. If the graphics card doesn't respond it's a bug in the driver. And that is very common.

[Stears555]

Where can I set the resizing algorithm?

Exactly where Sulur pointed. Options->Playback->Output:


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This isn't MPCHC's resizer, it's where MPCHC tells the graphic card which resizing algorithm is preferred. If the graphics card doesn't respond it's a bug in the driver. And that is very common.

I tried & installed one-by one the last five Nvidia drivers, and restarted the system 5times. It couldn't help