Sony Vegas Pro 10

[av.sorong]

Dear All,

Sorry if i don't know where to begin, so i decide to start a new thread...

I have some videos with high bitrate larger than 100000 kbps (shown in Total Video Converter) and it takes time to play in my video player...

So now i have a Sony Vegas Pro 10 and i don't know how to reduce the bitrate into approx 2000kbps without lose quality...
i have tried Adobe After Effect cs3 but it takes my resource a lot and bad result...

Please anyone know the right place for my question or help me right here, i appreciate it much.

Thank you.

[edDV]

Is this an uncompressed file? Try Mediainfo and post tree view here.

Uncompressed would need a RAID. Alternatives are various "digital intermediates" that slow bitrate to single disk rate.

Most used intermediates are Cineform (Neo or Neoscene) or HUFFyuv (free). Historically, MJPEG was popular.

[aedipuss]

try mediainfo on the source files. put it in text mode and copy/paste the results here. i find it hard to believe you have videos that have 100mbps or more as a bitrate.

[av.sorong]

Dear All,

Here it is :


General
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\anang & aurel - di marahin tuhan.mpg
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 69.4 MiB
Duration : 4mn 40s
Overall bit rate : 2 079 Kbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 1
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 4mn 40s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 910 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.230
Stream size : 63.8 MiB (92%)

Audio
ID : 192 (0xC0)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Duration : 4mn 40s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 4.27 MiB (6%)

[av.sorong]

Why in Total Video Converter shows the bit rate above 100000kbps...???

[av.sorong]

This one too, same problem :


General
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\vierra - terlalu lama.mpg
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 62.5 MiB
Duration : 4mn 12s
Overall bit rate : 2 080 Kbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 1
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 4mn 12s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 911 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.231
Stream size : 57.4 MiB (92%)

Audio
ID : 192 (0xC0)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Duration : 4mn 12s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 3.85 MiB (6%)

[av.sorong]

But this one is good, i mean i want to change two videos above into like this video :


General
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents\briptu norman - tahu sama tahu.mpg
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 49.5 MiB
Duration : 3mn 33s
Overall bit rate : 1 944 Kbps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 1
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 3mn 33s
Bit rate : 1 681 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 1 700 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.162
Stream size : 42.8 MiB (86%)

Audio
ID : 192 (0xC0)
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 2
Duration : 3mn 33s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 224 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 5.70 MiB (12%)

[aedipuss]

the 2 are already under 2000kbps. the only real difference is that they are 24p and the other is 30p. all are strangely mpeg-1. it's not used for much anymore. i'd say try to convert them all to mpeg-4. try vidcoder - remember to turn de-interlacing on(slower).

[budwzr]

That mpeg1 is used on VCD's in 3rd world countries.

[edDV]

But VCD resolution is usually 352x240 (ntsc) or 352x288 (pal).

[budwzr]

But VCD resolution is usually 352x240 (ntsc) or 352x288 (pal).

Yeah, those VCD's usually only have about an hour or two 30 minute "chapters" of some soap opera from the homeland and they fill up the disc when they burn 'em so hence the high bitrate.

These soap operas usually come on 20 or so discs so you have to keep getting up and changing the disc.

OP probably wants to copy a bunch of the chapters and put on one disc for resale or whatever. There's a market for this stuff from countries like Cambodia where they have nothing available on the dish networks. A lot of Asians buy this stuff because they're loaded with culture, not Americanized.

[aedipuss]

But VCD resolution is usually 352x240 (ntsc) or 352x288 (pal).

Yeah, those VCD's usually only have about an hour or two 30 minute "chapters" of some soap opera from the homeland and they fill up the disc when they burn 'em so hence the high bitrate.

These soap operas usually come on 20 or so discs so you have to keep getting up and changing the disc.

OP probably wants to copy a bunch of the chapters and put on one disc for resale or whatever. There's a market for this stuff from countries like Cambodia where they have nothing available on the dish networks.

they are not vcd mpeg-1s. 720x480 is not vcd compliant.

[budwzr]

Yeah, I know. We don't have VCD players here in the US. He probably wants to make mpeg2/ac-3. That file, he probably didn't know mpeg1 resolution.

[av.sorong]

Dear All,

aedipuss "the only real difference is that they are 24p and the other is 30p"
which part show the 24p and 30p, and what does it mean? and which better 24 or 30?

Uummm... Thats video are karaoke file, i mean it made from Sony Vegas Pro 10 too, but it takes too much time to play on my video coll software...
So i need to convert the 2 bad file above into some parameters like the good one...

Mr, Budwzr, in 3rd world countries sometimes something run unexpected as you guess... hehehe

[av.sorong]

And those files are not played on VCD Player, it is played on CPU, windows xp sp2....

[aedipuss]

this is the part that shows framerate and scantype from the one that works.

Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive

the ones that don't play show 23.976 (24p)

[av.sorong]

Hi all,

I just download and try ImTOO Ultimate converter, and after try and try... now i am getting more confuse...

After some videos converted, i confuse what is :

1. Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default

2. How i limit the bitrate like this Bit rate : 1 681 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 1 700 Kbps?

Because i see the good video it has BVOP, Matrix and maximum bitrate... while all bad video no have it...

Please somebody help me, thank you before.