Is DVDshrinks Deep Analysis&compensation worth the time?

[leebo]

You might also be dyslexic.

[guns1inger]

Fandim - there is nothing weird about wanting the best picture quality. Weird is people who never use either because all they want is speed. You might as well stick with VHS if you're happy with lower picture quality.

[soloredd]

Maybe I'm wierd, but I ALWAYS use deep analysis and "sharp" (move it to smooth if compression is beyond 65%, though). Even for 90%. <shrug>

I do the same. Never had a movie take longer than 90 minutes, though.

[fritzi93]

Might as well be contrarian here. If it's just a few percent, I'll shrink it without DA or AEC. If significant compression is required, run it through DVDRebuilder. Doesn't take all that much longer than DVDShrink with DA and AEC enabled. So re the original question, no I don't see much point to it.

[guns1inger]

Even with both turned on, Shrink takes about 25% of the time of rebuilder for the same file. If Shrink is taking that long there is definately something wrong with your setup.

[fritzi93]

Even with both turned on, Shrink takes about 25% of the time of rebuilder for the same file. If Shrink is taking that long there is definately something wrong with your setup.

Well, it's subjective, as well as depending on number of passes. For me, DVDRB (CCE) takes about 1.4x realtime for two passes, so less than 3 hours for a two hour movie. (On reflection, I suppose I should add ripping time to that, which does make the comparison closer to the 25% figure you suggest).

But it's difficult for me to see more than a slight improvement using DA and AEC. Particularly if the ratio is at 90% or above. That's on a 32" HDTV CRT. DVDRB results in a noticeable improvement over DVDShrink (with or without DA and AEC) when the compression required is greater than that. So my attitude is, if it's worth extra time, it's worth re-encoding. To each his own. JMO.

[pjcrown]

gunslinger wrote:

Actually, unless the disk is 4:3 letterboxed, most of the screen is video. If your disk is "widescreen enhanced", "16:9", "Anamorphic" etc, then your player is adding the black bars by compressing the image. There is as much data on a 16:9 1.78:1 movie as there is on a 4:3 fullscreen disk. Even a 16:9 disk with a 2.35:1 AR movie fills better than 50% of the screen area with movie.

I agree, I just checked my Harry Potter video (wide screen version) and it was letter boxed (720x480 with 25% of the screen black). I grabbed a frame and looked at it with a graphics program. Some of my other videos are true 16:9's (864x486 with all video). If your video player is also "letter boxing" your true 16:9' videos, then shrinking is also throwing away some of the bandwidth that you can't see. You will see the loss in bandwidth if viewed on your computer monitor or a HDTV. Just one more thing to consider when shrinking.

[Rockas]

Even with both turned on, Shrink takes about 25% of the time of rebuilder for the same file. If Shrink is taking that long there is definately something wrong with your setup.

That is not true... in any computer... running DVD Rebuilder + CCE Basic it can take more 15/30 minutes than Shrink with deep analysis... and the Quality of the final result?... well I don't even compare... and don't come and tell me about percentages 'cause 60% of 9000 is not tha same as 60% of 4000, is it?

[JasonK]

I use Deep Analysis and AEC Sharp if compression required is more than 97%. I'm not seeing any more artifacts than the originals on my high end equipment.

I used to use CCE a few years ago, but recent versions of Shrink do great even at 70% comopression, and rarely does something need compressed more, so I dont waste my time firing up CCE anymore. In recent comparisons, I determined Shrink was better.

Tip - get rid of the crap, menus, extras, etc. Enjoy.

[Rockas]

Tip - get rid of the crap, menus, extras, etc. Enjoy.

Yes... that's a good solution... oh! by the way... why bother to submit yourself to ripping problems... just "record" the main movie into a VHS tape

[shelbyGT]

Tip - get rid of the crap, menus, extras, etc. Enjoy.

Hey, it's what I do. If I want the extras I'll put in the original, not the backup.

[lordsmurf]

That's like trying to rake diarrhea up a hill ...

LMAO! That's a good one!

[jimmalenko]

That's like trying to rake diarrhea up a hill ...

LMAO! That's a good one!

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[KingAtRock]

I've got to say, it used to take 3+hrs on my old 1.4ghz amd with dvd shrink!

with my new amd 2.4ghz with all the whistles (sort of) pc 3200ram yadda yadda it takes an hour or maybe 1.5 depending on the movie. We're talking saving private ryan or s0pranos season 5 so its definitely a heavy load not like 10% compression.

maybe you should look at your hardware? celeron may not be good at crunching those type of #s.

[non-linear]

From my experience, using the deep analysis is definitelly worth the time. I had some discs that I did using the default settings, and in some scenes, when the shots changed back and forth, there would be bad macroblocking for a couple of frames (definitelly noticeable). When I redid them with the deep analysis and the default sharpness setting, the problem went away and the video looked better overall.

It takes me about 90 minutes on a 2.4GHz computer (my secondary system). For me, I'm willing to wait the extra time for the quality boost.

[crackur]

I never used it...........dont see no reason to start if I'm happy right?