When are the next speed DVD writers due?

[vice86]

I recently returned my Cendyne 4x burner cuz I'm hoping the 6x or whatever X wil be out soon making the 2-4x burners cheaper...I didnt really care to spend 299.99 for the Cendyne even though it already paid for itself with the burns I've done....wife was giving me crap for spending so much on it...ggrrr.

Any news on when the 6-8X burners will be out?

[Barnabas]

Sometime before the Christmas season in early winter, Pioneer will bring out a faster burner. You are going to be waiting a LONG time.

[vice86]

Crap...i aint waiting that long...ill wait and hopefully Office Max will have the Cendyne 4X's for aroune 170.00 after rebate like Neo got!

[neomaine]

[vice86]

lucky dog!...my Cendyne from Staples was almost 320.00 after taxes..lol.

[i-on-s]

my cen 4X burner was $129 from staples after discounts and such.

$299.99 - $60IR - $60 coupon - $50 mir (which says 6-8weeks but i got mine back in 2) + free shipping on orders over $50 = $129.99 + free shipping.

cant beat that besides being free
its paid for itself and more in the first week!

[vice86]

was the 60.00 coupoon a promotion thing that anyone could get or did you just happen to have a gift certificate or something...129.99..thats CRAAAAAZZZY.

How long ago was this? I'm gonna have to keep my eye on OM and Staples every week now. They always have the DVD-Rs on sale every couple weeks.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Check here for online coupons:
www.getmeadeal.com

[vice86]

Thanks for the link.

www.fatwallet.com & www.slickdeals.net are good too.

[neomaine]

I now have 3 new favorites setup on my browser....

Damn, although I can't complain too much, another coupon would have made it even sweeter.

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vice86,

just called the local Staples and OfficeMax stores in the area. No deals right now.....

[i-on-s]

The $60 coupon i found on a website and this was during the big blizzard on the east coast (baltimore what what! ) and staples was having a presidents day sale.

[SaSi]

When is the next generation of 4x media going to come ? When is the current generation of 4x burners going to reliably burn 4x media?

The whole issue is too green to increase speeds. And don't expect 6x recorders to be cheap also.

By the way, is your system capable of burning at 6x or 8x? Make the calculation: 8 x 1380 = 11040 kbps.

A "normal" ultra dma 66 disk won't keep up. They hardly go as fast as 10Mbps sustained and sometimes speed drops a bit. If they are any amount fragmented, forget it.

On the other hand, a modern 80~120+ Gb disk at 7200 rpm and connected to an UDMA 100 controller easily does 40MBPS sustained.

So, before you set out to buy a faster (when they arrive) recorder, first test your system. I 've had it before with my brand new 2x CD recorder that my otherwise adequate 386/33 system could not keep up with. Had to change m/b, RAM and CPU. But that's all gone now, isn't it?

[ptmurphy]

I agree that you won't see significantly faster DVD burners for some time for a couple of reasons...

1. Reliable, affordable media
2. Ability to burn at the rated speed
3. Cost of hardware

I think some people think, gee my CD Burner burns at 48x, why can't my DVD burner? A 4x DVD Burner is writing data at about the same rate as a CD Burner is ad 37x.

DVD at 1x is 1,380 Kbs so 4x = 5,520 Kps
CD at 1x is 150 Kbs so 37x = 5,550 Kbps

It seems that CD Burning has topped out at about 52x (7,800 Kbs), so unless technology for writing optical media changes somewhat (read as higher cost in the short term) then DVD writing would top out somewhere in the 6x range (6x = 8,280 Kbs).

[vice86]

That makes a lot of sense...you can only burn reliable so fast...i dont think we'll be seeing 110X CD Burners....but lets keep what I said in mind in a few years from now...you never know.

[Trust_No_1]

Another thing to bear in mind is that faster DVD write speeds does not mean all DVD players will be able to play the burnt discs. Case in point, I burnt a few DVD coasters at 2x speed on 2X media and my player wouldn't play them. However, I burnt again at 1x speed on the same 2x media and it played perfectly. I understand other people on this forum have had the same experience. Maybe someone out there has done some more comprehensive tests? And yes I know that eventually all DVD players will be able to play any DVD media regardless of the speed it was burnt at. But right now I'm happy with my Panasonic RP82S and I don't intend to buy a new player any time soon.

Personally, my main consideration is creating DVDs that are playable on most players. If I have to reduce the burn speed to achieve this then c'est la vie.

[vice86]

I was very lucky with my Cendyne 4X burner...all dvd's burned at 2x on Maxell 2x media...of the 30 burned I watched about 20 of them and they played flawlessly...no probs whatsoever.

[MOVIEGEEK]

That makes a lot of sense...you can only burn reliable so fast...i dont think we'll be seeing 110X CD Burners....but lets keep what I said in mind in a few years from now...you never know.

What I have read this is the main issue capping max.speed due to the fact that CD media have been tested to 48x,so any faster speed may cause the disk to disintegrate.In theory it's possible to burn at IDE speeds (133MBps)but until they make titanium disks and gamma-ray lasers it is unlikely we will see 16x DVD writers.

[w00tski]

thats rotational speed your thinking. sadly i think dvd burning has become a bit of a 'too little too late' technology because hard disks in the 'cost per meg' are not that much different.

[Bob W]

thats rotational speed your thinking. sadly i think dvd burning has become a bit of a 'too little too late' technology because hard disks in the 'cost per meg' are not that much different.

Sadly I can't seem to get my hard drive to fit into my stand alone DVD player.