Double sided single layered DVDs with split movie

[mpb]

Greets all,

I have been trying to back up Robin Hood Prince of Thieves and Stargate. Both of these DVDs are single-layer, double-sided, and they have the movie split!

That is to say, to watch the film, you have to take the disc out and turn it over halfway through, a la the laserdiscs of old. I would bank on it that these are near-direct LD transfers, as the split points are the same as they were on my old LDs, to my recollection. Totally unacceptable on DVD.

Can our current software combine these properly? Maybe with some deceptive renaming, by ripping them to the HDD, then renaming the VOBs so they follow each other numerically, then strip streams with IFOEdit and get it squished down to 4.7g so I can burn the film to one single side of a normal DVD-R?

Anyone done this yet? Before I dig in and try to brute-force the process, I am open to the advice and expertise of anyone who has tried this, or something like it.

[thxkid]

you would have to lower the bitrate to fit on one sided DVD-R, a production DVD holds 2hrs 10min., well personally, I have seen any movie longer than 130min. either is dual layered or doubled sided, I can fit 4hrs on my new Panasonic home DVD recorder when using the 4 hr mode but it lowers the bitrate to 2500, resolution at 352x480, still looks very good, but not DVD quality, I personally use 2 discs, why have something on a DVD-R that looks like a very good SVHS of SVCD, makes no since to me. but to lower the rate to fit 125min. or 130min. on DVD-R should be fine though. Bitrates as low as 4000 or 4500 still look great and that should get you to 130min. or 140min. on a DVD-R.

[mpb]

I can transcode, that's not a problem. See my many other posts. The problem is... how do we join these halves of the film? Each is its own set of VOB-IDs and has its own VTS sector set. I could fix vts_01_01.ifo all day long and it still wouldn't know to go get the rest of the movie... would it?

Physically fitting all this onto one side of a disc won't be an issue. The problem is how to combine both halves of the movie properly.

Any advice?

[wesmoc]

Any luck on this? I just came across this same DVD, and, wow.. what a downer having to "turn over" the disc mid way through the movie.

I'd love to back up just the movie itself. Since it is 144mins, it should easily fit on a single layer DVD..

Let me know!

[johneboy]

hey guys..
couldnt you just rip all the VOBs from both sides
name them in order VTS_blah_01, VTS_blah_02, etc, etc..
Then created new IFOs with IFOedit?

[mijman]

That's what I'd do.
Except I don't normally deal with IFOs.
Rip both sides, frameserve with DVD2AVI, linking all vobs sequentially (renaming is not really necessary) and reencode.

[poopyhead]

That's what I'd do.
Except I don't normally deal with IFOs.
Rip both sides, frameserve with DVD2AVI, linking all vobs sequentially (renaming is not really necessary) and reencode.

won't always work

1) you can only link 9 vobs together...i.e. vts_xx_09.vob would be the last one...., so if the total # of vobs from all parts of the movie is greater than 9, you can't link them all together

2) there could be some sync problems (i.e. LOTR extended ed. linking the vobs together and frameserving through dvd2avi caused sync problems in second half of the movie)

so if these are the case, you can basically just encode the parts separately as if there were 2 movies and then cut/join as necessary

[herbapou]

For this movie:

- Rip side A VTS_01_1,2,3,4 VOB files in folder1
- Rip side B VTS_01_1,2,3,4 VOB files in folder2
- Rename folder2 VOB files from VTS_01_1,2,3,4 to VTS_01_5,6,7,8.
- Cut and paste folder2 VOB files in folder1
- Create a new IFO with IFOedit (Starting VOB is VTS_01_1)
- Once done, open a new IFO file and click "Get VTS sectors"
- Edit the soundtracks and subtiltles in the new IFO files (both of them) to set languages.
- Click "VOB Extras" in infoedit
- Strip 1 subtitle to force a reconstruction of all VOB files.
- Open the newly created VOB files (open there IFO file)
- Click "Get VTS sertors" again

You should now have a valid set of files.

To process with DVD2DVDR:

- Created a ISO image with InstantCD/DVD
: Start a new project in wizard (UDF VIDEO DVD)
: For the size of the DVD, choose custom and double the amount of sectors
: When the wiz ask you if you want to write or return to project, return to project
: In the file menu, you should now see a "Create an ISO image" choice
- Load the image with Virtual Daemon Manager
- Load DVD2DVDR
- Access the image and re-encode...