Funny Frame problems

[Raging_Inferno]

Im doing a svcd rip of gundam wing endless waltz
i ripped everything with smart ripper
and i used dvd2avi
with the force film off
i put it into tmpegenc and after encoding it, half way into the movie the frames looks similar to what happens when the field have been switched from field a to b
Can anyone help me out?!
thanks

[LeeBear]

Anime material are notorious to encoded. They have a tendency to use both interlace and non-interlace frame structure switching whenever it wants. The best thing is to use a IVTC filter on the material. TMPG has it, you'll find it.

-LeeBear

[Raging_Inferno]

oh i forgot
i have already performed ivtc
thats the funny thing
it still doesn't fix it
i looked at it with ivtc on and off
same thing

[poopyhead]

i hope u guys aren't talking about the automatic IVTC...

that doesn't really work, the filter makes too many mistakes..you have to manually do the IVTC for it to work...

but anywayz, did you look in dvd2avi to find if the video is FILM or NTSC...i'm guessing it's NTSC cuz u have forced film off, but if it's substantially FILM (i've gotten as low as 90% FILM to work w/ forced film)

(rather than IVTC) if it is NTSC, you can make your output video interlaced 29.97 fps (but if you do, field order is critical..so best bet would be to encode a little bit of the anime and burn w/ cd-rw and test on TV, field order problems won't show up on computer monitor...only TV)

[Raging_Inferno]

crap i did do a auto ivtc
hmmmmm
dvd2avi shows most of the time that it is film 96% and every once and a while i see a ntsc 3-5% show up
and the frame type is switching from interlace to progressive like crazy!
would force film be enough to get rid the horizontal lines? would the little bit of ntsc mater too much? (what happens to those frames when it get forced filmed?)

[poopyhead]

if it's 96% FILM most of the time...try forced film + de-interlace filter (adaptive de-interlace if best if there is one)

i'm not too familar w/ dvd2svcd, since i use dvd2avi->tmpgenc, but it should be the same way nonetheless

however, watch the rip before you burn it though...if the video is smooth, then everything is fine...if the video is kinda jumpy or blurry, then get back to me

[Raging_Inferno]

deinterlacing filter?!
um..................
do i really want to deinterlace, it looks so ugly!
the filter, i used that durring tmpegenc right?

[poopyhead]

that's why you need to check your rip after u encode it...

de-interlace on an NTSC source is BAD, BAD, BAD...

however, if it's just a few lines here and there in a mainly FILM source, then de-interlace isn't that bad (make sure you use an adaptive deinterlace..and use blend or double ... if you have those choices)

don't choose even field or odd field de-interlace...those remove half the vertical resolution

[Raging_Inferno]

ah man i don't wanna check it over!
thats like 200,000 frames to look over!
hmmmmm
ill just hope force film does a good job