I choose aspect ratio 2.11.1 in TMPGEnc and got 1.85.1

[Beautiful Alone]

I use TMPGEnc to encode the movie and choose aspect ratio 2.11.1 and got 1.85.1 as a result on my stand alone dvd player, i'm pretty sure my setting is correct. And the other time i chosee 1.85.1 and it is full screen. It seem to be the correct aspect ratio when i play it on my PC, but not my stand alone DVD player.

[Beautiful Alone]

anyone?

[Beautiful Alone]

nt

[dick_p_t]

2.11:1 ratio is used for animorphic dvd's. so if you have a movie in 1.85:1 Animorphic with a 16:9 transfer and encode as if the scorce were 16:9 the picture would look stretched. This is because the encoded move used the extra space in the 16:9 tranfer to store more lines in the picture to give the DVD a crisper picture. So to pop it back down to it's original 1.85:1 aspect you need to select 2.11:1 scorce aspect ratio. PLEASE NOTE: you only need to do this for Animorphic DVD's, any other dvd use the Transfer aspect ratio.(DVD will say "Widescreen 1.85:1" and you will also see the "16:9 Transfer" use the tranfer not the actual presentation of the movie.

[snowmoon]

DVD mpeg2 only supports 4:3 and 16:9 ( 1.85:1 ) is does not support 2.11:1 is not a valid aspect ratio for any video/dvd materal that I'm aware of.

Your PC might be able to handle an odd aspect ratio, but DVD players won't.

(x)(s)VCD often players only support 4:3 even though 16:9 SVCD's are possible.

[dick_p_t]

Have you delt with Animorphic DVD's before?

Useing the sorce aspect ratio of 2.11:1 is the equivelent of an Animorphic DVD.

To put it in simple terms. Animorphic is 1.85:1 stretched out to compleatly fill the 16:9 transfer. So if you encode it to VCD as if the sorce aspect ratio was 16:9 (as the Transfer is) the output will look streched. So you need to use the 2.11:1 sorce aspect ratio to knock it down a bit more.
But if you encode a non animorphic sorce with a normal 16:9 aspect (Movie and Transfer) it will turn out as 1.85:1

If you still don't understand, let me know and i will find you a few links that deal with animorphic DVD's and aspect ratio's in more depth.

[Beautiful Alone]

I ripped Lord of the Rings. "The DVD is it aspect ratio 2.35.1" but when i load it up in TMPGEnc, I choose 2.11.1 as aspect ratio. After the encodeing is done, the movie turned out to be 1.85.1.

just wanna know why.

[wulf109]

The way I preserve 2:35.1 aspect ratio is to go into the advanced tab in Tmpeg settings. Change the video arrange method to custom centered and specify the size in the two boxes. If i'm encoding at 720x480 I set the custom size to 720x360. This results in preserving the 2:35 and it keeps the proper aspect ratio,round will be round.

[dick_p_t]

My god!

Read my previous post!

Choose 16:9 "NOT 2.11:1" because the move is a 16:9 transfer.

Do it and i'll bet it will work.

[Truman]

Usually anamorphic dvd's come with an aspect raio of 16:9 (incl. widescreen 1:1.85 or 1:2.35). So set the source aspect ratio to 16:9 and video arrange method to "full screen[keep aspect ratio]", that is quite accurate. Better you calculate the framesize exactly and use the video arrange method "center[custom size]", but everyone, who does not recognize the difference between 1:2.11 and 1:1.85, does not need to care about slight resize errors. [/b]

[Beautiful Alone]

Choose 16:9 "NOT 2.11:1" because the move is a 16:9 transfer.

Do it and i'll bet it will work.

Yes, it work!! you're a genious!

now, it's the other way around. It played prefectly on my stand alone DVD player, but on my Computer, the movie's like sqush. And if you turn the monitor brightness up you will see theres 2 unknown black bars top and bottom on my monitor and plus the movie aspect ratio right now is 2.35:1, so when I play a movie on my PC there's also 2 black bar top and bottom and plus when i play a movie, theres also 2 black bars. So, when i play the movie, it has 4 black bars, and that's why it looked sqush in the center. If i could get rid of these 2 unknown black bars, it will look exactly like the original movie.

If you still don't understand, let me know and i will find you a few links that deal with animorphic DVD's and aspect ratio's in more depth.

yeah, that would be great!

so anyways, i do i find out if the DVD is Animorphic or not?

Thanks

[dick_p_t]

Your Computer renders the video different to a DVD/VCD player, and depending on what software you are useing it may not be keeping the aspect ratio of the file. It should work fine in "Windows Media Player". Also have a look around in the Software Players Settings and look for somthing like "Keep Aspect" or "Preserve Aspect" or somthing like that.

the black bars you are seeing are the transfer lines.
allthough your movie is presented in 1.85:1, the actual video is in 16:9.
You see, DVD can only accept aspect ratios of 4:3 and 16:9, so what they do is fill the void of a 1.85:1 movie with black to bump it up to 16:9. and then when you encode it to VCD, if fills the void of 16:9 with black to bump it up to 4:3.

the same thing happens on you DVD player when you watch a movie, but it is done on the fly, and you don't notice it as mutch due to the low resalution and definition of the TV, but cos a computer monitor has a high resalution and definition you will notice things a lot more.

(VCD looks shit on the computer but it looks Mint on the TV)

here is a coupple of liks;

Aspect ratios
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/aspectratios/widescreenorama.html

Animorphic dvd's
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/anamorphic235demo.html

hope you find this helpful =8-)

[Beautiful Alone]

Hmm..i've been to that website a long time ago.

so..are the majority of the DVDs Non-Anamorphic or Anamorphic?

and on the back of the DVD case, it saids Enhanced for widescreen TV's does that mean the DVD is Non-Anamorphic ?