Mpeg Burning Question

[BigBadBob]

i have a 24x cd-rw drive. I read that with mpg files its best not to burn faster than 8x. if yuo burn faster you can get a lot of errors. I don't burn vcds but regular cds with mpg files on them. My question is would renaming the files to say .doc, .jpg, or putting them into zip, ace, or rar files. Not compressing them jsut storing them. Or using a file splitter that renames the split files to .001, .002 etc. Help? I burn a lot of cds and would really like to burn at 20x. Or are there any things i can do, Disc at once, track at once, Mode 1, ISO vd ascii? Any ideas? Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Bob

[Tbear]

If you are going to just store them as data you can burn at any speed. It's when you are burning a VCD that you should slow down in speed

[BigBadBob]

Somebody told me that the problems i was getting with my recorded shows was because i was recording at a too fast speed. I was told that even on a cd that contained mpg files ( not vcd just a regular cd with mpg files ) you shouldnt record at faster than 8x. That i would get a lot of errors like i was getting. So i thought that if they were stored in archives that they would look like pure data to my computer and there would be no problems. I rally need answers.

[KingJohn]

Do you get errors with regular CD-R when you burn at higher speeds ?, if you don't then a CD-R with data on it (Mpeg1) should perform the same. Its not possible for anyone to say what your cd writer will perform like, unless there is a known fault with a particular make.

Burning at faster speeds with a good writer has no effect on the quality, I have burned at 40X with no problems, and regularly burn at 16X with a stock of Maxell I got on offer. When they are all gone I will burn at 40X all the time.

But this means nothing to you and your writer, even 2 writers the same and different DVD players will make a difference. Your planning to store the files in archives, using zero compression, but if one of those archives gives problems, then it would loose the whole lot in that archive anyway.

Why do you need to store them this way, if your VCD's are working burning at a lower speed, why not make VCD's out of them. If you are worried, instead of splitting them up into chunks with a file splitter, you could split them with TMPGEnc using merge/cut but again if there were any problems with part 2 of 6 you lost the movie anyway.

[BigBadBob]

i havent burned very many data (regular cds ) with this new cd-rw drive. But i did get a lot of block noise and freezing errors with the 20 x burn speeds. Also could it be that i would get very few errors if i had a faster cp/mobo? Here is my current system specs.

600 Athlon
40gb Maxtor D740X hard drive
DVD-Rom
Acer 24x CD-Rw drive
ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon 7500 64mb ddr
SB Audio PCI 128d ( or something like that )
Lynksys NIC.

and i record mpg-1 files at:
1.25mbit
320x240, 352x240
48khz

[vitualis]

As what KingJohn wrote.

As long as your media and drive can handle it, then burn speed shouldn't have anything to do with what is actually burnt on the disc (it should be identical).

What is usually the observed phenomenon is related the reader compatibility. Many DVD drives are pretty touch and go when it comes to reading CD-R media. Subtle factors like burn speed can affect how well the drive can read the media. This is why many people have observed that lower burn speeds lead to "better quality" VCDs.

If you don't have this issue with your DVD player (e.g., it was designed to read CD-R/W media), then burn speed will make no difference.

Regards.

[KingJohn]

i havent burned very many data (regular cds ) with this new cd-rw drive. But i did get a lot of block noise and freezing errors with the 20 x burn speeds. Also could it be that i would get very few errors if i had a faster cp/mobo? Here is my current system specs.

600 Athlon
40gb Maxtor D740X hard drive
DVD-Rom
Acer 24x CD-Rw drive
ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon 7500 64mb ddr
SB Audio PCI 128d ( or something like that )
Lynksys NIC.

and i record mpg-1 files at:
1.25mbit
320x240, 352x240
48khz

Well again I don't think anyone can tell you how good or how bad your writer is, So far as your system is concerned, if during the process your system could not keep up with the 20X write your making, the drive has probably got burn proof features. This prevents the disk from being scrapped, I have never heard of anyone remark that the quality is not so good, because the laser was switched of and on during burn.

The type of blanks used is important, cheap ones don't perform very well at all, not matter what is put on them. I have made 40X disks which work on at leased 5 different players. But again its never possible to say what's good for you.

[Craig Tucker]

I find it's the media that determins the speed that I write my VCD's. I have some 80 min intenso discs that can be burnt at 24 speed with no problems. I also have some 99 min infinity discs which if I burn at 24 speed the picture gets all screwed up and the audio goes out of sync so I burn these at 4x. Both types of discs are rated at 32x

Craig

[BigBadBob]

well right now i think my dvd-rom drive is dead. It has power ( the drive will open and close ) but it will not read any cds or dvds. My Acer cd-rw drive has Seamless Link. I have switched to using Fuji 70mb 24x and Memorex 700mb 24x or 32x ( can't remember ). The reason i use these is because a 50 pack of Fujis is 17.99 plus my 10% Kmart employee disocunt. So i get a good deal. The ones i got the errors on was Smart Buy branded cd-rs and some Ritek cd-rs. I think now that they were the problem.

[wmosner]

I have a stand alone Panasonic CV-51 5 disc DVD player that won't play any VCD that I record above 16x on CDR's or 8x on CD-RW's. However, the same VCD recorded at 32x CDR and 10x CD-RW play just fine on the DVD player in my computer. I had to burn a few coasters 'til I found the burn speed that would work on my Panasonic but the actual quality of the movie did not change with the different burn speeds. I tried both TDK and Compusa brand discs and found no difference between the brands. I am using a TDK velocd 32x burner.

[BigBadBob]

like i said before i dont burn vcd's. But i decided to put my mpg files into .ace files ( store setting, check crc ). Just to be safe. Because i have very rarely had a compressed file ( Zip, Ace or Rar ) be corrupted a long time after i burned them