Trying to burn a cue/bin to Toast for SVCD

[mitchgtz]

I'm trying to burn a cue/bin to Toast for SVCD (actually, just the bin, I have no clue what to do with the cue file).

I'm running Toast 5.1.3 on OSX and following some FAQ I dragged the bin file onto Toast using the Multi-Track CD Rom XA setting and burned the SVCD.

I put it into my Malata n996 and all it would do is browse the disk and if I tried to point it to the MPG folder and open up one of the files, it just errored out.

I downloaded a demo of WinDVD and was able to open the file on the (yuck) PC, but that really isn't where I wist to be viewing the disc.

Any ideas on how to make the disc playable in my Malata?

thanks in advance!

[major]

You can't burn a SVCD .bin with Toast without chunking it into tracks.
Use VCDToolsX, first the VCDxRIP tool to generate a .xml file and then feed the .mpg and .xml to ToastXAImager and finally feed Toast XA Multitrack mode with the two .img resulting files.

Or burn the .bin/.cue with cdrdao under Unix command line.

[mitchgtz]

Thanks for the reply, can I trouble you for the syntax for the above mentioned unix command line?

Cheers-

[schwinn]

You can't burn a SVCD .bin with Toast without chunking it into tracks.
Use VCDToolsX, first the VCDxRIP tool to generate a .xml file and then feed the .mpg and .xml to ToastXAImager and finally feed Toast XA Multitrack mode with the two .img resulting files.

Or burn the .bin/.cue with cdrdao under Unix command line.

I belive you are wrong. The method described above works fine for me with SVCD bin files or any bin/cue file using the lastest version of Toast or likely any Toast 5. The cue file isn't used. Your method is needed for SVCD files that are not bin/cue files. It also would work as you say but is an extra not needed step. My guess at this point is his DVD player doesn't play SVCD's ?? There could also be other problems.

[major]

Any .bin contaning a compliantly-authored SVCD -need- to be chunked in order to be burned with Toast compliantly. If not, some players could eventually play it, others will definitely not. This has been extensively discussed in the forums and it is the reason tools like XAImager have been developed.

Concerning cdrdao, the command line is :

sudo cdrdao write -device IOCompactDiscServices svcdfile.cue

Of course, you first need to install cdrdao available here. Copy the files into Users/=username=/bin folder, open Terminal, type "rehash" and you're done.

[mitchgtz]

At the risk of soundling like I have no clue, (or at least don't in a command line terminal) how do I find out what the device syntax is? Is there a command line promt to list devices?

I see very little info on learning the commands for using the terminal, I actually date back to the command line days (Apple DOS, CPM, MS DOS etc.) but have little to no unix experience.

I only know the unrar syntax and stay out of the terminal otherwise, can't someone write and easy drag and drop applescript that takes advantage of these poweruser tool?

Are there any good books that will help me?

Cheers-
Mitch

[major]

You should copy the above cdrdao command line exactly as it is, you only need to replace svcdfile.cue with your .cue svcd file name. Fore more information here is the cdrdao home page, you should read the README file which is inside the full package available there for download. If you want to burn on DVD then replace IOCompactDiscServices with IODVDServices. If the standard driver is not working you can force a specific one by adding --driver drivername (there is a list in the README).

Check this tutorial to learn more about Unix under OSX.

And here is the list of cdrdao available commands.

Usage: cdrdao <command> [options] [toc-file]

command:
show-toc - prints out toc and exits
toc-info - prints out short toc-file summary
toc-size - prints total number of blocks for toc
read-toc - create toc file from audio CD
read-cd - create toc and rip audio data from CD
read-cddb - contact CDDB server and add data as CD-TEXT to toc-file
show-data - prints out audio data and exits
read-test - reads all audio files and exits
disk-info - shows information about inserted medium
msinfo - shows multi session info, output is suited for scripts
unlock - unlock drive after failed writing
blank - blank a CD-RW
scanbus - scan for devices
simulate - shortcut for 'write --simulate'
write - writes CD
copy - copies CD

[scube]

There's an app to make cue/bin combos burnable
on Macs http://www.smtips.com/pcmaccdutils.html

[major]

scube, that app should not work for SVCDs, as it is based on bchunk v. 1.0.0 which incorrectly truncates Mode 2 sectors.

[Dace]

Do we have to create a folder named "bin" and place the cdrdao files there? or is there an invincible folder named bin in which we should place the files?

[major]

Go to your home folder, and if there is no bin folder there, create it as a new folder, then copy the cdrdao files there. Finally open terminal and type the rehash command.