59.941 fps avi

[Instant Martian]

Hi guys,
I would appreciate any help on this:
I have this file:
- 960x720
- Divx MPG4 (DX50)
- 59.941 fps
My DVD player doesn't play it because of the framerate.
I need to find a way to get a playable file (with as less quality loss as possible), I would prefer avi as output but it really doesn't matter, as long as a DVD player can play it.
How am I gonna do this?

[poisondeathray]

Also your DVD player doesn't play it because of the resolution (720x576 is usually max)

[Instant Martian]

Yeah, I suspected that (so I guess I'll need to resize).
But the player complained about the framerate with a message.

[poisondeathray]

It's both resolution and fps - usually 30 fps is the max as well for DivX compatible DVD players

[El Heggunte]

Converting that file to a "SAP-friendly" version will imply loss of quality.
Are you sure that playing it on a computer or an HTPC is "unacceptable"?

[Instant Martian]

I know there will be quality loss, I'd appreciate tips on how to minimize it.
And yes, I need it to be playable on a stand-alone player.

[sanlyn]

I have this file:
- 960x720
- Divx MPG4 (DX50)
- 59.941 fps

Does this describe your original source video? Or did you do some processing nthat made into what you show here? In addition to earlier remarks: The frame is 4:3 aspect ratio but non-compliant with DVD players. I have no idea what your player and TV would do with it, even if it could be played. The frame rate is non-compliant as well. The standards are (720x576 @25 fps (PAL) or 720x480 @ 29.972 (NTSC), and both are usually interlaced. This video meets none of those specs. And I'll guess that the audio is also non-compliant.

Try the free MediaInfo utility on your original, unprocessed video, and copy the text of its report in this thread. Otherwise, we have no idea what you're actually dealing with.

[Instant Martian]

I know all of that, that's why I'm asking, because this is a non-compliant file.
I enclose a screencap of GSpot, as far as I can see the audio is a perfectly compliant AC3.
Just to be clear, I am not trying to author a DVD, I just need a file my stand-alone player is capable of dealing with.

[manono]

Why is it so hard? Just reencode at half the framerate (SelectEven in AviSynth) and the lower resolution (LanczosResize(640,480) in AviSynth). It can also be done entirely in VDub.

[Instant Martian]

I was asking for tips on how to do it the best way (settings like codec, bitrate, fancy stuff (de-ringing, de-blocking), etc...).
I'll try to follow your method.

[sanlyn]

I was asking for tips on how to do it the best way (settings like codec, bitrate, fancy stuff (de-ringing, de-blocking), etc...).

We can't advise about detailed cleanup without seeing a sample of your source. A few seconds of video can be posted in the forum.

And by the way: you're putting yourself through extra work by making a screen capture of info that could have been copied as plain text from MediaInfo's "Text View" and would contain more data than GSpot delivers. But thanks anyway for submitting.

[Instant Martian]

I used to use both GSpot and MediaInfo, now I dropped the latter since it is considered adware.
I'll try to do some tests and see what happens, if I need I'll get back for some extra help.
Thanks to all.

[El Heggunte]

Just as a side note:

--- outdated version of VirtualDub;

--- outdated version version of DivX;

--- overkill bitrate for the AC3 stream;

--- plus the unusually-high framerate.... which makes me think,
the Original Encoder put VFR-content in an AVI file

EDIT: nah, PDR is right, it MUST BE some p0rn sports footage ^___^

[manono]

I was asking for tips on how to do it the best way (settings like codec, bitrate, fancy stuff (de-ringing, de-blocking), etc...)

Show me where you asked about any of that. You asked how to make it compatible with your player with as little quality loss as possible is all I saw. Nothing about restoration or improvement. If it's an XviD or DivX AVI to begin with, just encode it with DirectStreamed audio using XviD or DivX again, set for quant 3.

[sanlyn]

I used to use both GSpot and MediaInfo, now I dropped the latter since it is considered adware.

The ad pays for the software and keeps it free for you. Solution: read the installation dialog windows. Just uncheck the box or say "no thanks" any extra freebies and don't install them. Period. GSpot is seriously out of date and won't even read many newer types of video.

VDubMPEG2 is so old it's inadequate for many purposes. You can read MPEG with the newer VDub, which has plugins for at least 9 or 10 different vid types including FLV, MPEG, many others.

[poisondeathray]

You can probably go as high as 720x540 square pixel . Some can play non square pixel then you can use 720x576 with the 4:3 flag

Use the XviD or DivX "Home Profile" settings to ensure playback compatibility

If it really is 59.94p content, and the motion characteristics are more important (maybe it's sports oriented...or a porno ), most players can play non authored mpeg2 if it's DVD compliant as a .mpg file . If that's the case, I would make it interlaced 720x480i29.97 4:3 MPEG2 . You're in PAL land and most PAL players can play NTSC content . Most players do not handle interlaced XviD content very well

[Instant Martian]

@El Heggunte
I find very annoying to continuously update dozens of programs. As far as I get what I want, I am ok. When a reason to update arises I do that.
Thanks for your note anyway.

@manono
I don't understand why you get upset.
I asked how to do it (mainly because of the framerate I've never encountered before) and with "as less quality loss as possible" (i.e. all the other stuff we noobs aren't aware of).
Anyway, thanks to you too.

@sanlyn

The ad pays for the software and keeps it free for you.

Yeah, maybe. But there is free software without ads and I prefer that. Maybe I'll give MediaInfo a try one of these days.

VDubMPEG2 is so old it's inadequate for many purposes. You can read MPEG with the newer VDub, which has plugins for at least 9 or 10 different vid types including FLV, MPEG, many others.

As I replied to El Heggunte as long as I get what I need I stick with the programs I already have on my computer. Updating (which often means uninstalling the older version, installing the new one, messing up with libraries/plug-ins, possibly rebooting the pc) is a pain in the neck to me.
I'll get this new version of VirtualDub asap.

@poisondeathray

You can probably go as high as 720x540 square pixel . Some can play non square pixel then you can use 720x576 with the 4:3 flag

Use the XviD or DivX "Home Profile" settings to ensure playback compatibility

If it really is 59.94p content, and the motion characteristics are more important (maybe it's sports oriented...or a porno ), most players can play non authored mpeg2 if it's DVD compliant as a .mpg file . If that's the case, I would make it interlaced 720x480i29.97 4:3 MPEG2 . You're in PAL land and most PAL players can play NTSC content . Most players do not handle interlaced XviD content very well

I appreciate the irony, actually it's a biographical documentary.
Thanks for your suggestions, I'll keep them in mind.

[jagabo]

AviRecomp Not the best method but easiest.

[leghorn]

Just one thought on how OP may have gotten the 59.942 fps: it seems the source of his video was basically interlaced and upon processing being deinterlaced using frame-doubling, like mode=1 in Yadif.

[Instant Martian]

@sanlyn:
I updated my VirtualDub

@jagabo
I used AviRecomp a couple of times, it looks a useful piece of software.
But in this case I think I'll try manono and poisondeathray's suggestions, I should be able to get what I need.
Thanks to you too anyway.

@leghorn
I didn't understand what you wrote, I am not so much into that deinterlacing stuff.
Sorry.