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  1. Hello,
    I created a opening to my movie.

    This is my problem:
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    this is the video:


    I used BCC 3D SHUFFLE


    Why did this happen?
    How do i fix it?

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    it is at SONY VEGAS 11
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    Which "thing" are you taking about? There are many things going on here - Some I find acceptable, some not.

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  3. Originally Posted by Cornucopia View Post
    Which "thing" are you taking about? There are many things going on here - Some I find acceptable, some not.

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    the text is cut off.

    Films up and down is something I did in Photoshop to match the opening video to 4:3
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  4. Looks like a poorly designed plugin/effect . What you are seeing is a layer edge . It even cuts off the previous layer

    I don't use BCC - Are there any settings you can adjust in the plugin options ?

    I hope this is the trial version and you didn't buy the package...
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    When you change the perspective on a plane layer, the image gets distorted because the z-depth can get too deep. Resize the image to accommodate. Use track motion. Solo that track to see better.

    Also, make sure the animation is on the top layer. Maybe the edge of the other text is overlapping it?

    Are you using PNG with transparency? Or masking? If masking, don't do it that way.

    BCC is a ripoff. You get a few decent tools, but a lot of old junk. Use the 3D Track Motion tool in Vegas instead.

    Here's an example. Try it, it's good. You can do whatever you want, like BCC.

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    There's another "issue" that you need to be aware of, and I suspect this might be the problem since you haven't posted back yet.

    The pan/crop tool and the TrackMotion tool have an inverse proportional relationship! Hahaha, don't get scared. It's a little hard to explain, but the crop tool also sets what I call a negative crop when you enlarge the crop area, and that increases the size of the plane, but reduces the size of the image. This is quite useful.

    When your image is a high enough resolution, you can then re-enlarge it with the TrackMotion tool to original size, BUT, the extra space(edges) will expand beyond the project window.

    Depending on how far you go, you can make that layer edge invisible, or virtually non-existant.

    This is not a bug, but a by-product of Vegas being "resolution independent", which is a professional feature. Vegas, by default, will scale your media to fit the project. It does not pay attention to the actual resolution, it just resamples the media according to the default crop box.

    Actually, the crop tool doesn't crop, it zooms! Hahaha. Like a professional graphics software. It's a "view" tool, like a camera in 3D software. Like a camera, you can change the framing like a zoom ring, and TrackMotion is like a dolly.

    Imagine, with your camera, you are 3 feet from a dog, and you zoom in to fill the frame with the face. Then you dolly in and the edges of the face get cut off by the frame. Make sense?

    Alfred Hitchcock understood this phenomenon, and used it creatively with film, not stills.

    It's up to the user to know what their resolution is, but most have no idea or concept, so Vegas does this as a "courtesy", so different media doesn't look crazy large or small, and scare off editors. Since everything looks OK in the preview window, if there's an issue, the editor will blame it on the media source.

    The bottom line is the media doesn't have enough, or has too many, edge pixels for the given Crop/TrackMotion layer it's in. I hope someone else can explain this a different way, to make it easier to digest. Not many people use 3D Track Motion, so this is super top level insider information, and not many know about it.

    Hopefully, somebody reading this got an "A-Ha!" moment.

    If you cannot solve your issue, let us know, and I'll try to make a tute.
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  7. Originally Posted by budwzr View Post
    There's another "issue" that you need to be aware of, and I suspect this might be the problem since you haven't posted back yet.

    The pan/crop tool and the TrackMotion tool have an inverse proportional relationship! Hahaha, don't get scared. It's a little hard to explain, but the crop tool also sets what I call a negative crop when you enlarge the crop area, and that increases the size of the plane, but reduces the size of the image. This is quite useful.

    When your image is a high enough resolution, you can then re-enlarge it with the TrackMotion tool to original size, BUT, the extra space(edges) will expand beyond the project window.

    Depending on how far you go, you can make that layer edge invisible, or virtually non-existant.

    This is not a bug, but a by-product of Vegas being "resolution independent", which is a professional feature. Vegas, by default, will scale your media to fit the project. It does not pay attention to the actual resolution, it just resamples the media according to the default crop box.

    Actually, the crop tool doesn't crop, it zooms! Hahaha. Like a professional graphics software. It's a "view" tool, like a camera in 3D software. Like a camera, you can change the framing like a zoom ring, and TrackMotion is like a dolly.

    Imagine, with your camera, you are 3 feet from a dog, and you zoom in to fill the frame with the face. Then you dolly in and the edges of the face get cut off by the frame. Make sense?

    Alfred Hitchcock understood this phenomenon, and used it creatively with film, not stills.

    It's up to the user to know what their resolution is, but most have no idea or concept, so Vegas does this as a "courtesy", so different media doesn't look crazy large or small, and scare off editors. Since everything looks OK in the preview window, if there's an issue, the editor will blame it on the media source.

    The bottom line is the media doesn't have enough, or has too many, edge pixels for the given Crop/TrackMotion layer it's in. I hope someone else can explain this a different way, to make it easier to digest. Not many people use 3D Track Motion, so this is super top level insider information, and not many know about it.

    Hopefully, somebody reading this got an "A-Ha!" moment.

    If you cannot solve your issue, let us know, and I'll try to make a tute.
    I have a small problem in English (I do not always understand) ...
    So it would be okay if I will send to you to the project file and you will do what it takes? Then send me back to what you did?

    I just learn from what you did ..
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    OK, and I will need that image too.
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  9. Originally Posted by budwzr View Post
    OK, and I will need that image too.
    I sent you a private message with the project
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    The "3D Shuffle" effect is designed to shuffle whole frames, and doesn't recognize the alpha channel, or anything else. It simple uses the 3D Track Motion tool. Basically it flattens the frame, even though there is nothing to flatten.

    You need to animate the text via the "Text Box" keyframes where you made the text, and in conjuction with the "3D Track Motion" tool. I'm going to rework it the correct way.

    Here, the red box indicates the flattened area.

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  11. The "3D Shuffle" effect is designed to shuffle whole frames, and doesn't recognize the alpha channel, or anything else.
    Wow that really sounds like a rip off. What a crap plugin
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    Originally Posted by poisondeathray View Post
    The "3D Shuffle" effect is designed to shuffle whole frames, and doesn't recognize the alpha channel, or anything else.
    Wow that really sounds like a rip off. What a crap plugin
    Hahaha, you have to just do it differently. And it's not a "plugin" per se, it's one of the canned pre-built transitions. It's for "transitioning", not compositing. Two different birds.

    You can see here at the intersections there is transparency. What I did was make a "snap" of the text, then brought it back in and composited three tracks. Pretty simple. I overcomplicated things up above, but meh, maybe useful to someone else.

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  13. That's my point - why would you buy something like that? You can do the same thing in vegas without 3rd party transitions/plugins .

    Even if they are "canned" unimaginative transitions - A retail package like that is supposed to make things easier , not more difficult
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    Yeah, those dirty birds! I'll never consider Boris again. It sux. I think they're all haughty, and sht, over there too. If you point something out, you prolly get a big lecture, and have to reset your computer back to original factory condition and reinstall everything from zero before a "technician can help you". Basterds.
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  15. haha I hate to admit it, but I got suckered in and got Boris something version 4 or 5 a few years back too

    So maybe I'm not being "objective" and holding a bit of a grudge. But if this is any indication it doesn't look like they've improved much in the last few years..
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    I evaluated BCC9 a while back, and it had a shatter effect and some tracking capability, but the rest of the stuff was like NewBlue Nooby tools, like garish "cartoon" effects that nobody would ever use, and they wanted $600!

    I went to the "Vegasaur" site yesterday, and the price is right, but it's 10 year old stuff.

    Same for "Vaasst". A bunch of hokey tools from yesteryear.

    Ditto for Twixter. GoPro has a new model now that does 120 fps @ 720p. So next generation, and Twixtor's niche gets dried up, if not already. Yet they still want 300+ dollahs!

    Looks like I'll just stick with HitFilm. $169 upgrade, and the ParticleGen is supposed to be super robust now. I'm not that excited though, because it's a huge learning curve, and unless you're doing something really high end, it's kind of "meh" now too.

    I'm trying to position myself for the digital signage boom that's right around the corner. It's gonna be lookin' like Japan around here soon. Right now a lot of businesses have those people flipping and dancing with handheld signs, but the cities are cracking down on that stuff. Too much blight.
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