How do i get a 2 hour 43 min video file into 366mb PSP 480x272 mp4?

[DarkShadowRage]

I am looking at this converted anime movie that is 2 hours and 43 min long, it has a bit rate of 310kbps audio at 138kbps.

Enocded with AVC h264 at 480x272.

How on earth does one get it this small? that quality on it is great too, i really need to know how to get them this small. I've tried using xilisoft video converter, i tell it to do 300 mb and gives me a 1gig file instead, please tell me what am I doing wrong and how can i get small file sizes and make it look good?

[netmask56]

Post a MediaInfo report of the file and maybe something in that will give a clue as to what the encoder did.

[DarkShadowRage]

Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 367 MiB
Duration : 2h 43mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 314 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-09-29 21:35:00
Tagged date : UTC 2011-09-29 21:35:00

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate : 173 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 4 173 Kbps
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 272 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.055
Stream size : 200 MiB (55%)
Writing library : x264 core 115 r1937 aa21558
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.40:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=22.0 / qcomp=0.80 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.60
Encoded date : UTC 2011-09-29 21:35:00
Tagged date : UTC 2011-09-29 21:35:12

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 2h 43mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 138 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 177 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 162 MiB (44%)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-09-29 21:35:10
Tagged date : UTC 2011-09-29 21:35:12

Does this help any?

[DarkShadowRage]

bumping

[Atak_Snajpera]

Anime / Cartoons are VERY EASY to compress. Reasons:
1) very static (eg. mouth is moving but rest is static)
2) characters and backgrounds are not very detailed (mainly flat areas)



You should try latest RipBot264.

[poisondeathray]

It also depends on the source material. Things like noise, dirt impair compression. CGI type animation is harder to compress, because there are more details

If it's "clean" simple animation , then yes, it's easy to compress . If it's older animation or "dirty" , then you often have to do some filtering before encoding

[DarkShadowRage]

what about something like WWE? for example like 2 hour video of that?

[poisondeathray]

WWE? Do you mean wrestling ?

Much more difficult to compress, because there is lots of motion, and it's live action (real people), not smooth simple gradients like animation

[DarkShadowRage]

WWE? Do you mean wrestling ?

Much more difficult to compress, because there is lots of motion, and it's live action (real people), not smooth simple gradients like animation

yeah that, would it be possible to get that at a small file size though?

[poisondeathray]

WWE? Do you mean wrestling ?

Much more difficult to compress, because there is lots of motion, and it's live action (real people), not smooth simple gradients like animation

yeah that, would it be possible to get that at a small file size though?

You can get it that small, but it probably won't look very good

Filesize = bitrate x running time

[DarkShadowRage]

i've been using handbrake to make a PSP video but it won't play back why is this? it shows the movie icon but the video refuses to play.

[poisondeathray]

I think handbrake removed psp presets in recent versions. You might have to use an older version

Or use ripbot264 (atak is the author , BTW) . I think it has PSP preset .

[DarkShadowRage]

I think handbrake removed psp presets in recent versions. You might have to use an older version

Or use ripbot264 (atak is the author , BTW) . I think it has PSP preset .

i downloaded ripbot but i have no idea how to even make it work.

[poisondeathray]

Hit the hot link and look under the section "guides"
https://www.videohelp.com/tools/RipBot264

[DarkShadowRage]

Hit the hot link and look under the section "guides"
https://www.videohelp.com/tools/RipBot264

says im missing FFDshow yet i installed it and it still can't see it.

[videobruger]

Amazing. And half the file is audio.

Anyway I made this 2 min clip http://www.mediafire.com/?rfiar8mrjkfq621 using MediaCoder with setting that would result in an approx 325 MB file for a 2:43 movie. I don't know if you would consider it good q or not (I wouldn't) but here it goes:

Drag Drop your source to MediaCoder

Select the Video tab on your left
Select Video Bitrate to 200
Select Rate Mode 3-pass (or 2-pass I can't see any difference)
Select format H.264

Now go to the audio tab on your left
Select Format LC-ACC
On the rigth side it would (probably) say Nero Encoder. Choose Rate Mode=Target Bitrate and set it to 64 (or 96) Kbps

Go to the Container Tab on your right.
Select Container MP4

Goto to the Picture Tab on your left
Select Global Resize and drop down 480x272


And that's it. You'r ready to go and click Start

[DarkShadowRage]

Amazing. And half the file is audio.

Anyway I made this 2 min clip http://www.mediafire.com/?rfiar8mrjkfq621 using MediaCoder with setting that would result in an approx 325 MB file for a 2:43 movie. I don't know if you would consider it good q or not (I wouldn't) but here it goes:

Drag Drop your source to MediaCoder

Select the Video tab on your left
Select Video Bitrate to 200
Select Rate Mode 3-pass (or 2-pass I can't see any difference)
Select format H.264

Now go to the audio tab on your left
Select Format LC-ACC
On the rigth side it would (probably) say Nero Encoder. Choose Rate Mode=Target Bitrate and set it to 64 (or 96) Kbps

Go to the Container Tab on your right.
Select Container MP4

Goto to the Picture Tab on your left
Select Global Resize and drop down 480x272


And that's it. You'r ready to go and click Start

This is the quality of the video from the log i posted too.

[DarkShadowRage]

I am trying out that mediacoder suggestion right now i will let you know of my results by the way thanks for the suggestion.

[poisondeathray]

I haven't used it in a while, but if you want to pursue ripbot, it used to check for ffdshow version. If you are using outdated version it will complain. Solution is to install more recent ffdshow version

All these use AVC, specifically x264 encoder. They are just front ends or GUIs for x264

[DarkShadowRage]

Does the 2-pass and 3-pass help make the file size smaller?

[poisondeathray]

Does the 2-pass and 3-pass help make the file size smaller?

Nope. Multipasses are used for more precise ending filesize, and frametype allocation


Filesize is determined by this equation:

Filesize = Bitrate x Running time


Notice resolution isn't part of the equation. But you need a higher bitrate for same level of "quality" for higher resolution. (you need more bits)

So a 1920x1080 version of the video and a 480x272 version will be the same filesize, if they have the same bitrate

[DarkShadowRage]

Does the 2-pass and 3-pass help make the file size smaller?

Nope. Multipasses are used for more precise ending filesize, and frametype allocation


Filesize is determined by this equation:

Filesize = Bitrate x Running time


Notice resolution isn't part of the equation. But you need a higher bitrate for same level of "quality" for higher resolution. (you need more bits)

So a 1920x1080 version of the video and a 480x272 version will be the same filesize, if they have the same bitrate

I see so if i take a longplay video of a game that's 5 hours long, would i still be able to condense it to a smaller size and still have it look good?

[poisondeathray]

I see so if i take a longplay video of a game that's 5 hours long, would i still be able to condense it to a smaller size and still have it look good?

You can gain some compression, but some material is more easily compressible than others . Go back and re-read what was said earlier.

For example, a FPS action video game with explosions, lots of movement will look a lot worse than say, tetris or poker video game at the same bitrate. In other words, that action game will require more bitrate to have a certain level of "quality". In other words, you need larger filesize compared to that poker game

[DarkShadowRage]

what's the best way of making sure audio does not desync in a long video?

[poisondeathray]

what's the best way of making sure audio does not desync in a long video?

There shouldnt be any desync in the first place. There is no real "best way"

If you are getting sync issues, describe the problem: is it constant sync problem (e.g. 1 sec all the way through), or progressively worsening

If the source file is variable frame rate, you need to make a vfr encode (not supported by many devices), or try to convert it to cfr (constant frame rate)