DV footage flickers when converted to DVD!

[Duck_Plumber]

I have tried everything and I just don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

Here's what I do:

I have a video player which is plugged into my DV camera, which is plugged into my firewire. That is the setup I've had for several years. After capturing (using DV type-1), I then go into virtualdub and do any editing that may be needed. I then use Virtualdub's frame server and use CCE to encode the video. As far as I'm aware and from all the guides I have read, I have the settings in CCE correct for encoding from a DV source. I have changed settings several times to see if it made a difference and it didn't. When it has encoded, I make my DVD's, but they flicker heaps! Usually when there is fast motion and/or many colours.

Please help, it's driving me insane! Just can't seem to fix the problem!

Many thanks in advance

[ytrouble]

non-interlaced?

[Duck_Plumber]

It is interlaced. I thought it had to be interlaced for dvd, am I wrong?

[minidv2dvd]

dvd is interlaced. have you perhaps changed the field order? DVavi is bff, did you encode it to mpeg-2 tff?

[edDV]

If the "flicker" is motion related, then it is a field order issue. Encode the DVD bottom or lower field first.

[Duck_Plumber]

Ok, thankyou both for the info. I have tried bff and tff and still get the flicker. As the footage is interlaced, should I not click "progressive frame"? Also I read that I should set Block Scanning Order to "Alternate".

[edDV]

Not progressive if for DVD.

In virtualdub, use the Cedocida DV Codec set to YCbCr etc. Then frameserve to CCE or export DV or uncompressed YCbCr to a file and import that.

You have chozen a complicated way to cut edit DV format.

If you need to deinterlace for some reason, best to do it in avisynth.

[Duck_Plumber]

Thankyou for the help edDV. Can I just frameserve to CCE without using the codec? That's what I usually do, or is that a must to correct the flickering problem?

[edDV]

Thankyou for the help edDV. Can I just frameserve to CCE without using the codec? That's what I usually do, or is that a must to correct the flickering problem?

Virtual dub uses a DV codec to convert DV to uncompressed RGB or YCbCr and then recompresses on export. Best way is to frameserve uncompressed lower field first YCbCr to the encoder. I don't have CCE installed so can't go into more settings detail.

Others will help.

[Duck_Plumber]

Ok, I'll try that now. Thankyou very much for your help, I appreciate it

[Duck_Plumber]

Damn this! I STILL can't stop my dv footage from flickering when converted to dvd! I've tried everything!

[guns1inger]

If you editing does not involve cropping or filters then you can use Direct Stream Copy to pass the edited footage back to your HDD as DV AVI without re-encoding. You can then use a simple Avisynth script to pass it to CCE.

If you want to see if your CCE settings are the issue, use AVStoDVD to encode the edited footage using HCEnc, and see if the flicker persists.