Lag when playing a xvid straight on my LCD TV

[Burner72]

I have a new TV Philips 42PFL8404H
It is suposed to be able to play movies from a USB memory straight in to the TV.
Format that is supported is: (some swedish text)
USB-ingång (multimedia)
USB-kontakten på din Philips 42PFL8404H LCD-TV ger dig åtkomst till JPEG-foton, MP3-musik och videofiler (MP3, LPCM, WMA v2 upp till v9.2, JPEG-stillbilder, MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG4, AVI (DivX, DIV5, DX50, DXMF), H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, MPEG-Program Stream PAL, WMV9/VC1).

But when I watch 2 seperated movies on it, one is lagging a lot so that I cant watch it and the other is just fine.

Mediainfo on working on is:

General
Complete name : F:\Movie1. XviD..avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 702 MiB
Duration : 1h 35mn
Overall bit rate : 1 033 Kbps
Writing application : FairUse Wizard
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Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : AdvancedSimple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (MPEG)
Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 1h 35mn
Bit rate : 896 Kbps
Width : 608 pixels
Height : 336 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.183
Stream size : 609 MiB (87%)
Writing library : XviD 1.2.0.dev47 (UTC 2006-11-01)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Codec ID : 55
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 1h 35mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 87.0 MiB (12%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 504 ms
Writing library : LAME3.97
Encoding settings : -m j -V 4 -q 2 -lowpass 17 -b 128


And the one lagging is:

General
Complete name : C:\Videos\Movie2.xvid-amiable.cd1.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 699 MiB
Duration : 1h 2mn
Overall bit rate : 1 561 Kbps
Writing application : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
Writing library : VirtualDubMod build 2540/release

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : AdvancedSimple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 1h 2mn
Bit rate : 1 103 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 272 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.264
Stream size : 494 MiB (71%)
Writing library : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : 2000
Duration : 1h 2mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 201 MiB (29%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 500 ms


Can it be that its the audio (AC-3) that is messing with the TV so it is lagging or something else?
Would be happy if I could get it sorted out.
Thx in advance

[guns1inger]

I would say that is a fair assumption. AC3 is not listed as a supported format for the multi-media playback functions of the set.

A simple test. Load the video into virtualdub. Set video to direct stream copy, and audio to full processing. Select MP3 as the audio codec and configure it for 192 kbps CBR. Save a new file and test play this file. If it works without lag, AC3 is the most likely cause.

[jman98]

Personally, I think playback directly on the TV via USB is crap. If the TV can't even keep up with AC3, then that "feature" is useless.

I wish the manufacturers had never seen fit to offer this "feature" as it's completely useless except to cheap people who don't want to buy proper players for playback. It's not like Burner72 is powerless. HDTVs were sold for years without the capability, yet we all somehow found a reason to keep on living and just simply bought DVD and media players that worked for our needs without worrying about using the TV directly for the job.

[Burner72]

Select MP3 as the audio codec and configure it for 192 kbps CBR. Save a new file and test play this file. If it works without lag, AC3 is the most likely cause.

How do I do that? When I select MP3 under Audio it open a window and want me to select a file????

[guns1inger]

Audio -> Full Processing
Audio -> Compression
Select your MP3 codec (usually LAME MP3) and configure it
Video -> Direct Stream Copy
File -> Save as AVI (Here you will have to select a new file name because you have to create a new video with the new audio track)

[Burner72]

Noob question, but how do I install the LAME codec?
I unpacked it in the same folder were I have vdub, but when I run vdub I still dont have a MP3 when selecting audio compression.
Thx for bearing with me

[jagabo]

Noob question, but how do I install the LAME codec?

Right click on the INF file and select Install.

[Gavino]

You need to right click on the file LameACM.inf and select Install.

[Burner72]

Dont know what Im doing wrong.
I rightclick and select install.
But whats happening is that a small window flashes for 0.5 seconds on the upper left corner of my screen and the icons in the screen flickers a bit.
When I start vdub again I still dont have the mp3 choise.
Can it be Vista screwing with me or am I totally clueless

[poisondeathray]

Are you using vista x64?

If so, read DarrellS' reply
https://forum.videohelp.com/topic364494.html

[Burner72]

yupp Vista x64 here
will try it out

[Burner72]

Are you using vista x64?

If so, read DarrellS' reply
https://forum.videohelp.com/topic364494.html

Looks like Im a hopeless case as when I typed the comandline in darrellS reply Im missing the "HinfSection" on my computer so it looks like Im stuck so that I cant install and codecs on this computer

[jagabo]

If all you want to do is test whether AC3 is the problem just disable the audio track in VirtualDub. Create an AVI with just video. See it that plays on your TV.

Audio -> No Audio
Video -> Direct Stream Copy
File -> Save as AVI

If it turns out that AC3 is the problem you can try using AviDemux to convert the AC3 to MP3. It uses its own built in codecs so you don't have to install Lame ACM.