resizing help

[shaktiIIIgta]

Hi, as you can see im posting in the noob section, first of all iwould like to thank for reading this,
my problem:
i have 720x416 25 fps source and i'd like to put it on a standard 4:3 tv

i've tried the resizing filter in virtualdub(mod and not mod) but i just can see the the correct picture in the preview mode...

wich options do i have to fit that source with letterboxing?


thanks

UPDATE: btw i've just read the some stickies and some FAQ's but cant find a solution, if doing something not right with the site rules can you point me to what to read ?, thanks again

[manono]

In what format is your source? AVI, maybe XviD or DivX, most likely? If you don't know, post a GSpot pic. And what is your intended output format? DVD? Another AVI? What?

[shaktiIIIgta]

thanks, yes, here is a gspot pick

[manono]

That was only part of what I asked. What do you intend to do with it? Make another AVI? Make a DVD? The answer to your question depends on knowing what you intend to accomplish. Your initial requirement:

i have 720x416 25 fps source and i'd like to put it on a standard 4:3 tv

doesn't make much sense. For example, if you have a DVD/MPEG-4 player that can play DivX AVIs, you don't have to do anything as it will already play with no problem and the player will add in the letterboxing.

And at 720x416 on a single CD, the quality of this thing most likely isn't very good.

[shaktiIIIgta]

I apologize, yes, i'd like to put my video on a DVD5, for the video size maybe a 16:9 would be nice but i'd like to letterbox it

[Baldrick]

If you aren't going to do any filtering in virtualdub then use something else to convert to dvd like FAVC. It will take care of the resizing for you.

[manono]

And if you encode for 16:9, that particular resolution will get no letterboxing at all. It should get very slight pillarboxing (which you won't notice on your TV set). Your player will add in the letterboxing for playback on 4:3 TV sets.

Yes, I also recommend FAVC. Here's a guide:

http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/FAVC_Video_to_DVD_Guide_page1.html

[hech54]

Or you can just buy the DVD on Ebay for $6.70 delivered.

[shaktiIIIgta]

thanks for the replies, and the soft recomended, i've been searching through google and found a possible solution, maybe you can tell me where i can read more or tell whats happening, the recomended procedure is to use the virtualdub resize filter putting as new size 720x(360/370) and check the letterbox box puting a new size of 720x480 how or why is that 360/370 looks fine now thanks

[manono]

1. That's the wrong resize/letterbox for both 16:9 and 4:3 encoding of a 720x416 source AVI. Whatever you read, you either misunderstood it or it was wrong to begin with.
2. What are you going to do with it now since you can't create DVD Video using VDub directly? You'd have to frameserve which is a slower and more inferior way to do it. And that's if you even understand frameserving.

Use FAVC, DVD Flick, AVI2DVD, etc. Here are some guides:

https://www.videohelp.com/guides?searchtext=&tools=&madeby=&formatconversionselect=AVI+...or+List+Guides

[shaktiIIIgta]

hi, thanks, i just know basic stuff of frameserving but looks somewhat learning time-consuming, where i read that was here

http://www.spcnet.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=21850

maybe i just also missuderstood some what like this

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/1920x1080-3d-rendering-to-dvd-letterbox-using-t...c-t305174.html

btw i found an avi resize calc and it recomended resize to 720x370

do you have a resizing guide or something about ratios and playback characteristics im just starting to learn about those many options one has.

i've just resized to 720x360 with the virtualdub resize filter, adding letterboxing, created a new 4:3 project in adobe premiere and burned to a dvd image and tested it and looks fine but i would like to have moe control or be more efficient in resizing and also would like to learn.

i checked the soft you recomended but looks like very basic and even though it works i would like to use CCSP2 to encode

thanks

[jagabo]

fitcd

Basically, resize your 720x416 video to 720x480 and encode as 16:9 MPEG 2 for DVD. Or resize to 720x368 add a total of 112 lines of black letterbox bars to the top and bottom to fill out the 720x480 frame, encode as 4:3 MPEG 2 for DVD.

[shaktiIIIgta]

fitcd seems to work great giving me reisizing info, i just don know much i cant see a 4:30 checbox, maybe anamorphic video would do ?

nice to hear how many lines i have to add, but i just cant make it with CCSP2, is there some guide to how resize video like this, or how can i add those lines


thanks

PS been trying with CCSP2 to encode and i have to correct the area setting dialog to encode in a nice 16:9 ratio but i would like to encode to a 4:3

[jagabo]

Install AviSynth and use the AVS script that FitCD can create. CCE can read the AVS script.

[shaktiIIIgta]

thanks for the useful screen jagabo, i'll learn more on AviSynth, thanks for pointing me to making a better dvd

btw, all this 'trouble' someone would say, because i wanted nice encoded CCSP2 video to have 'good predictions' on the file size to try to use the most space of a dvd5 to use that size-known video in adobe encore for making not so ugly menus.

thanks again