Vdub frame serving to CCE ?, UPDATE ..Fixed the Error

[theewizard]

CCE returns error that the video.vdr.avi file is NOT a vaIld avi file

see, i did read balricks guide, the guides I found all mention tempgenc, i didn't find any using CCE

i usually use avisynth but wanted to use vdub for the contrast and sharpening filters

IF these filters & other are available for avisynth ? where to Dl from and where to put them folder ? so that I can use them

also tried to use Asvp, but did have much luck there either

does vdub play nice with avidemux ?

since I installed vdub, avidemux, has nothing in the preview window just a blank green space

is this vdub or some other problem i need to look for ?

[jagabo]

You should be able to frameserve from VirtualDub to CCE SP. Did you run AuxSetup.exe from VirtualDub? You need to do that once on you system to enable frameserving.

I don't know if there are AviSynth filters exactly like the brightness/contrast and sharpening filters in VirtualDub. But there certainly are similar filters. I use ColorYUV() a lot. There's also RGBAdust() and a Levels() filter that is similar to VirtualDub's. There is the Sharpen() filter for sharpening. See the AviSynth docs for details on their usage.

I haven't had any problems with both VirtualDub (several versions) and AviDemux installed.

[redwudz]

Works fine for me, even with Vista. You list your file as

video.vdr.avi

. Minor, but do you mean just video.vdr and not both? At least I've only used the .vdr extension. I haven't used frameserving with CCE in quite a while, but it works fine with TMPGEnc encoder.

I would uninstall the handler, then reinstall it and see if it starts working.

[theewizard]

I can try re-instaling the handler, the frame server came up and was running,

i used video.vdr.avi

exactly as it is stated in baldricks ' virtual dub frame serve guide'

Save the handler as video.vdr.avi, this file will just become a very small "dummy" file that "points" to virtualdub.

https://www.videohelp.com/oldguides/virtualdubframeserve

he says to run your encoder and open the video.vdr.avi file

which is a dummy file

and cce says this is not a valid file, i can try it without the avi ext and see what happens

I have tempgenc, but i've been quite happy with cce so I haven't bothered with re-installing it on this PC

I also have several mp4's and some mpegs, that could use some de-interlacing, capture files I made during the 06 winter olympics

I was hoping to run them through and then make NEW DVD's of the files to surprise my wife, its the figure skating she loves so much

i'll have to figure out what else, i did, that might have messed up avidemux, i even DLed and installed the latest version, it didn't help

i've been working with some swf conversion programs, maybe one of them changed something ?

[manono]

i usually use avisynth but wanted to use vdub for the contrast and sharpening filters

Eh? Are you saying those aren't available in AviSynth? If so, you're dead wrong.

[jagabo]

Did you run AuxSetup.exe?

[theewizard]

yes, I ran the aux setup, i said the frame server is running, that cce returns the error

redwuz was correct, using only the .vdr extentsion works, thank you Redwuz

there is a 'mis-print' baldrick guide.. I lifted the quote from the guide and posted the url, 'do i have to make a screen shot of the page for you other guys'

with AviSynth

there is NO filter or function listed as 'contrast' 'brightness' etc..

if luma or chroma or RGB yuv increase-decrease will do this

a guide with values and examples would be nice

I can't get a preview with avisynth, the way i can with vdub

I have been using fitCD and avisynth for nearly year, but most of what i converted to DVD did not need the 'help' or clean up, that old files i'm about to undertake working on need.

i've been very happy with what i have done..with fitCD & avisynth & cce

i DL asvp and the guide but i'm having trouble trying to use it and make sliders for avisynth filter functions, in short i'm getting nO where, not even a preview window

i spent all afternoon doing the same short segment in vdub & cce learning and adjusting contrast & sharpness etc..
I'm sure avisynth has functions for this, but they are not as straight FW nor as easy to judge what the results will be

and learning how to get vdub to size to 720-480 and get the correct picture at 16:9 from CCE

that part is easier with ( fitCD avisynth ) combo

put i'm learning

New tools and upgrades come out almost every week, i'm sure there is something I overlooked that would make the brightness, contrast, deblock, smooth, sharpen etc..easier to use in avisynth, but i haven found it yet

and it seems, that avisynth is faster than vdub when serving to CCE, same video file same drives and CCE completes the job faster when served by AviSynth, so that is reason enough to prefer to use it, IF i can

but right now it looks like this job will be done with vdub,

1: so i can complete what i'm doing
2: so i learn to use another tool

again thanks...

[redwudz]

Yes, I think they meant 'video.vdr -or- .avi', though I haven't tried it with a .avi extension.

The VD brightness/contrast default filter doesn't have a preview. I use this one listed here instead: http://www.thedeemon.com/VirtualDubFilters/detailed.html#8

Some of the other available VD filters listed there: http://www.thedeemon.com/VirtualDubFilters/

Or filters for VD and AVISynth: http://neuron2.net/

This is another handy filter that has quite a few functions that can replace several individual filters: Colormill2: colormill2.1.1.zip

EDIT:

Im using vdub 1.7.7 and that brightness/contrast filter DOES have a preview..

That's an improvement. I use VD Mod most times and it doesn't have that in the default filters. I have VD 1.7.7 just installed on the laptop, but haven't used any filters yet.

[theewizard]

Im using vdub 1.7.7 and that brightness/contrast filter DOES have a preview..

very handy being able to see what the adjustment looks like

thanks for the filter links

[jagabo]

Approximate ColorYUV() equivalents to VirtualDub's Brightness/Contrast filter:

off_y = brightness * 256 / 100

gain_y = (contrast - 100) * 256 / 100

Use those numbers as arguments for ColorYUV(). For example if you calculate 10 and 35 respectively:

ColorYUV(off_y=10, gain_y=35).


A good tool for viewing levels in AviSynth is the VideoScope() filter.

http://www.videotools.net/bin/VScope11.zip


Rough Sharpen() equivalents for VirtualDub's Sharpen filter:

val = 64 / sharpen

For example, if you use a value of 32 in VirtualDub the the equivalent is 64/32 = 0.5:

Sharpen(0.5)

[manono]

with AviSynth

there is NO filter or function listed as 'contrast' 'brightness' etc..

I guess you haven't discovered the built-in Tweak filter yet:

http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Tweak

and it seems, that avisynth is faster than vdub when serving to CCE, same video file same drives and CCE completes the job faster when served by AviSynth, so that is reason enough to prefer to use it, IF i can

It's not only much faster, but produces better quality output as well.

[Squash]

theewizard,

manono's Tweak recommendation is spot on, as always. For an easy preview, try this:

You mentioned you have Avsp. Just drag your video file onto an open Avsp window, it will fill in the 1st line for you. In the second line, type:
Tweak(0.0,1.0,0,1.0)
(These are the default values for hue, saturation, brightness and contrast).

Now hit F5 and avsp will open a preview window. Click on the "+" next to "Tweak" on the right and you will have a slider for each of the attributes above. Adjust each value to your liking; results appear instantly in the preview window. If you screw up, you can return the bad value to its default by clicking the blue number to the right of the slider.

Once you get it like you want, just plug that line into your avs and you're good to go.



To quickly compare the changed version to the original, you can open a new tab and drag the file into it, then just switch between tabs.

[theewizard]

Squash , manono

thanks for heads up on tweaker,

I'll give Asvp another try, I really like avisynth for frame serving to cce, but I need visual preview when i'm attempting to adjust brightness, contrast, color, sharpness etc..

OK , I just did a quick try, dropped my file in Asvp and followed your instructions

got the preview window and got the sliders, tweaker will do nicely, i use avisynth for this project, then experiment with the mpeg files of the wifes Olympic skating recordings

thanks everybody

see, I told you there was something out there that i missed seeing

now, if i can just figure out what messed up avidemux

I think its easier to use than vdub for editing, citting and joining

I think something with the flash programs must have replaced a critical DLL

[Squash]

You can get more of a "Vdub-like" preview by opening two instances of AvsP thus:

[theewizard]

nice tip, yeah no jumping between tabs

[Squash]

You mentioned sharpness above. To add that, just type this in as line 3:
Sharpen(0.00)
then hit F5 again and you'll have a sharpness slider, and so forth for other filters. As you probably noticed, AvsP will show you the default values as you're typing. You can control the resolution of the filters by increasing/decreasing the number of decimals in the script lines.