Help need on a new Hauppauge 274 PVR

[npsken]

I just got a new Hauppauge 274 PVR from newegg.

I am having some trouble tuning to the A/V inputs. Can somebody help me figure this out? (I want to record from a game console).

I also believe newegg may have sent me the wrong card, I received one with an fm tuner built in. The manual says it's a WINTV-PVR-150MCE.

I checked the website and couldn't find anything to help me (the av cable installation guide doesn't apply to me).

Thanks in advance.

[edDV]

Best you call Newegg and verify you have the correct card. The 150MCE is very different.

[npsken]

Best you call Newegg and verify you have the correct card. The 150MCE is very different.

It should still offer the same functionality, should it?

Until Newegg opens, can you help me switch this to capture from the a/v inputs?

[jagabo]

Press the little green button between the channel up and channel down buttons in WinTV2000. That cycles between composite, s-video, and tuner inputs.

[npsken]

Press the little green button between the channel up and channel down buttons in WinTV2000. That cycles between composite, s-video, and tuner inputs.

Is there a way to do it without wintv?

[jagabo]

Press the little green button between the channel up and channel down buttons in WinTV2000. That cycles between composite, s-video, and tuner inputs.

Is there a way to do it without wintv?

What software are you using? I have one program that uses channels 254, 255 for composite and s-video on my PVR-250.

[npsken]

Press the little green button between the channel up and channel down buttons in WinTV2000. That cycles between composite, s-video, and tuner inputs.

Is there a way to do it without wintv?

What software are you using? I have one program that uses channels 254, 255 for composite and s-video on my PVR-250.

I have many programs:
Windows Vista Media Center
VirtualVCR
VirtualDubMod
Graphedit

Can you help me with any of those?

[npsken]

Ok, I was able to get win tv working. But I need a way to tune it outside of wintv. Any suggestions?

Maybe for my purposes I should just get a straight up capture card without a tv tuner.

[jagabo]

I have a PVR-250. I'm not sure if the procedure is the same for the 150.

In GraphEdit you can insert the Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture Crossbar filter under WDM Streaming Crossbar Devices. After inserting the filter right click on it and select Filter Properties. On the Crossbar dialog, on the Crossbar tab, select the Input source.

I have a program called WinTvCap. It's a command line program. As mentioned earlier, you select the composite and s-video inputs by setting the channel to 254 or 255.

I've never been able to capture from my PVR-250 with VirtualDub (any version).

I don't have WME or VirtualVCR. I normally use WinTV2000. It's not the greatest program in the world but it gets the job done. Is there some reason why you don't want to use it?

[npsken]

I don't have WME or VirtualVCR. I normally use WinTV2000. It's not the greatest program in the world but it gets the job done. Is there some reason why you don't want to use it?

It doesn't get along with vista (turns of glass) and the recording isn't real time, it's a couple seconds off. I can live with the second part since I'll be playing games through a distribution amplifier with two outputs: computer and tv.

If you don't mind, could you please describe what I have to do in graphedit a little more? This is what I have so far:


Edit: Also, I'm switching to Linux soon, and this was the cheapest card I could find that people say works great in Linux.

[jagabo]

In GraphEdt insert the following filters:

WDM Streaming Crossbar Devices -> Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Crossbar
WDM Streaming Capture Devices -> Haupague WinTV PVR PCI II Capture
WDM STreaming Multiplexer Devices -> Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Encoder
DirectShow Filters -> WinTV Cap Writer

The last one will ask for a file name. Set it to where you want to capture to.

Connect the pins like this:



In the Crossbar filter go to the Crossbar tab. In the right half select Output -> Video Decoder Out. In the left half select Input -> Video Composite In. Checkmark Link Related Streams then press Apply. In the right half select Audio Decoder Out. In the left half select Audio Line In, Link Related Streams, Apply.

In the Encoder filter, on the Video Encoder tab, set the video bitrate you want. In Audio Properties select the audio compression.

If you want to see and hear what's being recorded right click on the Capture filter's Preview pins and select Render Pin. That should automatically add the appropriate filters and connect the pins.

Press the Graphedt's record button to record.

[TBoneit]

I believe the delay is tied into the hardware encoder on the device and not the software used. If you don't want a delay then you will nedd a capture device that captures without encoding such as the ADVC line that capture to DV AVi format and encode after the fact or have a very fast computer to keep from dropping frames.

[jagabo]

Actually, the delay is mostly software based. WinTV2000 buffers up a few seconds worth of frames before it starts displaying them to smooth out playback.

You can reduce this delay to a frame or two with a registry tweak. The penalty will be occasional hickups during playback.

http://www.cask-of-amontillado.com/pvr_reg.html#_Enable_Live_Preview

It works for my PVR-250. I don't know if it works for the PVR-150.

[npsken]

I had to go to sleep, it was 4:13 am where I was. But this is what I have:


Like I said before, if this gets too complicated I'll just get a standard capture card without the tv tuner and special software. Anybody have any recommendations?

[jagabo]

Once you have it working you can save a GRF file. Then start GraphEdt by double clicking on that file and you're ready to go.

[npsken]

Once you have it working you can save a GRF file. Then start GraphEdt by double clicking on that file and you're ready to go.

But how would I preview video from that latest graph?

I'm not even sure I have the link between the capture and the encoder set up right.

[TBoneit]

Best you call Newegg and verify you have the correct card. The 150MCE is very different.

Ed, from the Newegg site on the link that was posted down the page under features. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116633

"WinTV-PVR-150 MCE Kit- White box package
Watch and Record TV under Windows XP Media Center Edition.
Pause TV with instant replay, and use Media Center's electronic program guide to automatically record your favorite TV shows to disk!"

So it looks like he got what he ordered.
Cheers