DVD+R Burns Coming Up Corrupt

[Startropic1]

Someone sent me a video DVD and it happened to be DVD+R. My DVD player is a PS2 and I was under the impression that PS2s could not play DVD+Rs, but I decide to try playing anyway and it played perfectly. So I ordered a pack of 25 DVD+Rs and decided to try using DVD+R myself for burning.

So today I tried burning a DVD video I created. First I tried creating an ISO with Nero's image writer and then burn that with DVD Decryptor (I've had success in the past with DVD Decryptor and DVD-Rs.) I tried 2 DVD+Rs with Decryptor and the both came out corrupt, unreadable by my DVD-ROM drive. So I decided to try burning the DVD+R with Nero but it's still coming out corrupt.

Do I need to do something different to burn to DVD+Rs or do I have a bad pack of DVD+Rs or what?

Edit: I'm using Nero v6.6.0.8

[guns1inger]

+R DVD can be bitset during burning. BitSetting marks the DVD +R to look like a DVD-ROM to some players that would normally reject +R discs. I suspect that the +R that started all of this was probably bitset so the PS2 would play it, but none of the ones you have burned have been bitset. No all burners can bitset.

What burner do you have ?

[Startropic1]

ah I forgot to mention my burner.

It's a Sony DVD-RW DRU-710A, and I know it can do dual layer DVDs but I haven't gotten any dual layered DVD media yet.

[guns1inger]

Just re-read your post a little more. Do use Nero to create the ISO - use imgburn to create the iso and burn the disc. It should also be able to bitset if you drive allows it.

[FulciLives]

The best program for DVD Video burning is ImgBurn and thankfully it is freeware meaning you do not have to pay to use it which of course is very ironic since most computer video programs promise so much more than what they can actually do whereas ImgBurn does what it does better than any other program ... but costs nothing!

So download and try ImgBurn instead of NERO. ImgBurn can create an ISO image file and then burn that ISO image file to a DVD recordable. It is also possible to use it without first creating an ISO image file but I prefer to create an ISO image file first and burn from that instead of burning directly from a VIDEO_TS folder.

Another thing that you should consider: a DVD+R disc can be flagged as a DVD+R or as a DVD-ROM and when a DVD+R disc is flagged as a DVD-ROM it suddenly becomes much more compatable amoung a wide range of DVD players. There really is no difference except for the flag on the disc ... it either identifies the disc as DVD+R or DVD-ROM ... and that is the only difference.

Yet many DVD players will not play a DVD+R disc unless it is flagged as a DVD-ROM. Go figure.

Anyways ... this flagging is called bitsetting. Unfortunately not all DVD burners support bitsetting. Some DVD burners will always flag a DVD+R disc as a DVD+R and not a DVD-ROM. Only DVD burners that support bitsetting can set a DVD+R disc as a DVD-ROM.

ImgBurn does support bitsetting but only of course if your DVD burner supports it.

This whole business of bitsetting is something you do not have to worry about if you stick with DVD-R discs as it is exclusive to the +R format. DVD-R discs do not have an option to change the flagging of the disc as it is not needed.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
Damn you guys are fast ... the 3 posts above mine were not there when I started typing this up LOL

[Startropic1]

So how do I go about bitsetting in ImgBurn?

[budz]

ah I forgot to mention my burner.

It's a Sony DVD-RW DRU-710A, and I know it can do dual layer DVDs but I haven't gotten any dual layered DVD media yet.

Your SONY 710A drive is a rebadged Liteon SOHW-1633S drive. You may need a firmware upgrade for your drive. Here's a link from the codeguys website which you can download firmware for your drive:
http://codeguys.rpc1.org/dvdrw_overview.html

As far as I know the LITEON drives can booktype to dvdrom automatically. If you use DVD DECRYPTER you can choose to bitsetting to dvdrom by clicking on the TOOLS > DRIVE> CHANGE BOOK TYPE> a box will popup then click on the LITEON TAB. Where it says CHANGE FOR choose DVD+R media then where it says NEW SETTING choose DVD-ROM then click ok. I believe in IMGBURN you do the same thing since the guy who created IMGBURN also did DVD DECRYPTER.

[Startropic1]

Your SONY 710A drive is a rebadged Liteon SOHW-1633S drive. You may need a firmware upgrade for your drive. Here's a link from the codeguys website which you can download firmware for your drive:
http://codeguys.rpc1.org/dvdrw_overview.html

Which firmware update should I grab? rpc1.org, official, dhc014, or codeguys?

[Startropic1]

I suspect that the +R that started all of this was probably bitset so the PS2 would play it, but none of the ones you have burned have been bitset. No all burners can bitset.

What burner do you have ?

Incidentally, I know that particular DVD+R that was sent to me was burned on one of those DVD recorders that you hook up to your TV. I don't know if that makes any difference.

[FulciLives]

I can't help with a firmware suggestion (other than to say that updating firmware is generally a good idea) but I just wanted to mention that ImgBurn is the current "updated" version of DVD Decrypter. Granted ImgBurn does not allow you to RIP a DVD so you still want to keep DVD Decrypter for that purpose but ImgBurn is updated for burning and is much better than DVD Decrypter is for burning since ImgBurn is made just for that and is updated when needed whereas development on DVD Decrypter is long dead.

So in other words ImgBurn is the "updated" DVD Decrypter except now it only does burning.

So in short use ImgBurn for BURNING purposes and only use DVD Decrypter for RIPPING purposes. Although since DVD Decrypter is no longer updated you will find that it will no longer work on some newer DVD releases in which case you would have to use another DVD RIPPER such as DVDFab Decrypter.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[budz]

I suspect that the +R that started all of this was probably bitset so the PS2 would play it, but none of the ones you have burned have been bitset. No all burners can bitset.

What burner do you have ?

Incidentally, I know that particular DVD+R that was sent to me was burned on one of those DVD recorders that you hook up to your TV. I don't know if that makes any difference.

My friend has a PS2 and it's picky with different brands of DVD+R media. download cd/nero dvd speed and then use it to find out what firmware your drive has. that way you can decide what firmware you would want. I'd suggest you go to the LITEON/SONY forum at Cdfreaks.com and post your questions there as well because you'll get help from other LITEON/SONY owners. Sorry I don't own any LITEON/SONY dvd burners so I can't help you decide what firmware to use.

[GKar]

You choose a new official firmware for your drive here:

http://cdrinfo.com/Sections/Firmware/SingleModel.aspx?DriveId=973

You can update Nero to 6.6.1.4

[Startropic1]

So I updated my firmware, and I made an ISO/burned it with ImgBurn setting the book type to DVD-ROM.

On verify ImgBurn gives me this error:
I/O Error!

Device: [1:1:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-710A BYX5 (H (ATA)
ScsiStatus: 0x02
Interpretation: Check Condition
CDB: 28 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 01 00
Interpretation: Read (10) - sector: 4
Sense Area: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 11 05 00 00 00 00
Interpretation: L-EC Uncorrectable Error

The disc (which is another DVD+R) is readable on my burner drive, but not on my DVD-ROM drive.

[FulciLives]

Maybe it is a bad batch of DVD+R discs. I don't recall if you said what make/brand they are or more importantly what is the MEDIA ID code?

Have you tried burning a DVD-R to rule out the burner being the problem? I mean I know it has worked for you before when it comes to DVD-R but still worth trying one now just to see if you do or do not get another error like what you have been getting with the DVD+R discs.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Nelson37]

The PS2 is Extremely Picky about both media, authoring software, and burning software. I have had very erratic results with two of these units, disks which worked in the first do not work in the second. Disks authored with Sonic MyDVD were fairly consistently workable, though on several the first of two movies would play with no audio, while second worked fine. Changing order of movies gave same result, ie dependent on order on disk rather than movie.
Other disks played multiple movies fine, same creation methods and media.

Fuji disks used to work fine. Never had a DVDLab authored disk play at all. Current PS2 plays virtually nothing but commercial disks, IMGBurn no help so far. Have yet to try bitsetting. Am simply going to get an inexpensive DVD player and quit screwing around with the PS2. This is seriously affecting possible purchase of PS3 as I am anticipating same level of hassle with the included Blu-Ray Player.

[Startropic1]

Maybe it is a bad batch of DVD+R discs. I don't recall if you said what make/brand they are or more importantly what is the MEDIA ID code?

Have you tried burning a DVD-R to rule out the burner being the problem? I mean I know it has worked for you before when it comes to DVD-R but still worth trying one now just to see if you do or do not get another error like what you have been getting with the DVD+R discs.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

I just tried to burn the same ISO onto a DVD-R and it worked perfectly.

As for the DVD+Rs, they're Memorex 8x DVD+R discs.

Not sure how to determin the MEDIA ID code, but the number written on the instert in the spindle says 5395-6682.

The store that I got the DVD+Rs from is shipping me a replacement, and they said I don't have to return the ones I currently have.

EDIT: there's a serial number on the bottom/center of DVD+Rs: CPDR47G-CAEWP13-343 2106

[budz]

As for the DVD+Rs, they're Memorex 8x DVD+R discs.

Not sure how to determin the MEDIA ID code, but the number written on the instert in the spindle says 5395-6682.

The store that I got the DVD+Rs from is shipping me a replacement, and they said I don't have to return the ones I currently have.

Memorex is crappy media which is probably CMC media id. Download & install DVDINFO PRO or DVD IDENTIFIER to find out the media id. You can also use CD/DVD SPEED to find out the media id.

[Startropic1]

ImgBurn provided some data:

Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: CMC MAG-E01-00
Book Type: DVD+R
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Incidentally, the DVD+R that was sent to me was also a Memorex 8x DVD+R.

[budz]

ImgBurn provided some data:

Physical Format Information (ADIP):
Disc ID: CMC MAG-E01-00
Book Type: DVD+R
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Incidentally, the DVD+R that was sent to me was also a Memorex 8x DVD+R.

CMC is crappy media.....the dye will deteriorate over time and then the files will become unreadable.

[FulciLives]

CMC is about as bad as it gets LOL

Just stick with DVD-R discs from now on. That's my suggestion.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman