A 4.1 GHz Dual Core at $130

[Denvers Dawgs]

A 4.1 GHz Dual Core at $130 - Can it be True?, just saw this on another site....If I only knew how to build a PC......

[budz]

A 4.1 GHz Dual Core at $130 - Can it be True?, just saw this on another site....If I only knew how to build a PC......

Hey! Denvers Dawgs 10 years ago I bought my first computer and I knew nothing about them let alone know how to build one. Then 5 years ago I stumbled upon a forum that had a "How to build your own PC" guide. I printed all the pages out on the guide and decided to try building one for myself. If I could learn how to build a computer so can you. There are many members in this videohelp site that can assist you with building your own pc. Don't sit there staring at all those great cheap computer components at Newegg.com. Psych yourself out by building one for yourself. I get a natural high when I'm done building a computer. It's a feeling of accomplishment that makes you want to build even more computers.

[vitualis]

Yes, it's true, but also not particularly realistic.

That being said, the Pentium D 805 is a remarkably cheap CPU that can be easily overclocked. At modest level of overclocking, you will have significantly improved performance without much increase in heat or power consumption.

Regards.

[CrayonEater]

You might have seen my post.
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Building a PC is easy. Just be careful and make sure you don't have any static electricity built-up on you. One other bit of advice - don't let people convince you to buy a $2,000 machine - you may be able to do just as well for $350.

Budz is right except stay as far away from Newegg as possible. I've had nothing but problems and I suspect lots of their stuff is factory-seconds. Mwave.com or Tigerdirect have good prices for new stuff and you can even buy refurbed stuff dirt cheap on Tigerdirect. If you want to try building a machine and have any questions PM me or also check out Motherboards.org.

[budz]

Budz is right except stay as far away from Newegg as possible. I've had nothing but problems and I suspect lots of their stuff is factory-seconds. Mwave.com or Tigerdirect have good prices for new stuff and you can even buy refurbed stuff dirt cheap on Tigerdirect. If you want to try building a machine and have any questions PM me or also check out Motherboards.org.

@Mwave.com. Try checking Better Business Bureau on them and you'll see tons of complaints against them. I was one of them that filed a complaint to get a full refund from them. That company uses their own serial numbers on motherboards then when you return them for a defect they remove their own sticker with the serial number on them and put on a new one. But you get the same motherboard that you returned to them. I wrote down the serial number that was on the motherboard not the one from their on the sticker. Then to see they sent me the same one back was just down right wrong. How clever of them! NOT! They pulled that switch on me then when I confronted them they would not respond. I would never recommend Mwave.com to anyone. I got my full refund from them by filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.

Newegg.com has been flawless for me and I would recommend them over any other online retailer. I've never had problems in RMAing a motherboard or any other computer component. I even bought a refurbished motherboard and got a full refund when it didn't work correctly. Newegg rocks!

Denvers Dawg learn to build your own pc. As I mentioned other members here can help you if needed!

[greymalkin]

stay as far away from Newegg as possible. I've had nothing but problems and I suspect lots of their stuff is factory-seconds.

NewEgg is one of the best online stores for computer equipment. I've been ordering from them for years and they always get good ratings. I've only had one issue with hardware ordered from them and it was because UPS obviously thought my scanner was a soccer ball. They promptly helped me get it RMA'ed.

Mwave.com or Tigerdirect have good prices for new stuff and you can even buy refurbed stuff dirt cheap on Tigerdirect. If you want to try building a machine and have any questions PM me or also check out Motherboards.org.

Tigerdirect has great deals but my experience with them is that the "good deals" are usually always on second rate hardware. Especially their motherboards that come with bundles. They are all about the refurbished stuff so not sure why it's good for them and bad for NewEgg (who mostly sell new hardware)

[ROF]

@Mwave.com. Try checking Better Business Bureau on them and you'll see tons of complaints against them. I was one of them that filed a complaint to get a full refund from them. That company uses their own serial numbers on motherboards then when you return them for a defect they remove their own sticker with the serial number on them and put on a new one. But you get the same motherboard that you returned to them. I wrote down the serial number that was on the motherboard not the one from their on the sticker. Then to see they sent me the same one back was just down right wrong. How clever of them! NOT! They pulled that switch on me then when I confronted them they would not respond. I would never recommend Mwave.com to anyone. I got my full refund from them by filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.

I had a very similiar issue. I would MWave.com at all costs. NewEgg.Com on the other hand has been great for me. When I do get a part that doesn't work I can get another shipped out and they even provide a return shipment label with my exchanged parts. Which means I don't have to wait for them to receive the DOA Part and then send me a new one. Their selection is great and their prices are significantly lower than others listed in this thread. Tigerdirect is another shady company but if you complain enough you can usually get satisifactory results from them. Tigerdirect rebates on everything is also an issue. Read the fine print when purchasing as even if the part is eligible for a rebate you may not be if you regularly purchase from them.

But in relation to the original topic. I wouldn't buy a 2.66Ghz processor and overclock it to 4.1Ghz for any reason other than because my stove wasn't working and I needed to fry some bacon.

[CrayonEater]

Newegg has far more BBB complaints than Mwave. Several times more. While Newegg is probably bigger than Mwave, we're talking several times as many reports. I've included links to the Better Business Bureau below.

There's a reason why Newegg is so cheap - their stuff is questionable at best. I have made three purchases from them, and all were bad. One was a motherboard which Newegg failed to mention was not Win98-compatible (I would find through my own experience that it was also not Win2k compatible either, so I don't blame Newegg 100% for misrepresenting that product). Another mobo they sent was bad and they tried to charge me a 15% restocking fee for the return!. After deciding to give them another chance last year, they sold me an LG-4163B which went bad after six months.

I've been dealing with both Mwve and Tigerdirect for a few years now placing orders basically monthly for both personal and corporate merchandise, with few problems. All their stuff is new unless you specifically try to buy refurbed. I am not aware, between myself and my customers, any corporate users who use Newegg (or Mwave), but most use Tigerdirect or other suppliers. While Tigerdirect's new products are a bit more expensive than Newegg's, frankly, the difference in price hardly justifies the risk of dealing with Newegg for many of us out there.

Mwave
http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportPage_Expository.aspx?CompanyID=13020262
Newegg
http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportPage_Expository.aspx?CompanyID=13146135

[CBC]

I've bought virtually ALL my PC components(for myself, friends, and family), media,etc from Newegg for around the last 3 years now & had NEVER had a problem with anything I'd purchased.
In fact I once had a cheap case /PS, where the PS failed after a month. They not only immediately issued me an RMA for it, they even upgraded it to a Sparkle brand at no extra cost. Besides that , I usually get anything ordered within two days max. Newegg has been nothing but completely
reliable for me & I would recommend them to anyone.

[MJA]

same here.I bought all my stuff since 2001 from newegg.com .zero issues you may get a lemon here and there,but its not newegg's fault

I can't stand any company that depends heavily on mail in rebate crap. thats why I will never buy anything from tigerdirect.com + I live in IL and they charge tax

you can try chiefvalue.com(same like newegg.com I think) even buy.com got good deals (shipping tracking sux though

[OSU]

I don't know much about MWave but Newegg.com is by far the best IT vendor that I have personally dealt with. Never an issue and very quick delivery. CrayonEater I hope you not trying to falsely besmirch the reputation of a fine on-line vendor in order to pimp another company.

[CrayonEater]

I deal companies that sell reliable stuff. That's why I don't deal with Newegg. I see a lot of the "gamerz" pimping Newegg on Overclockers, Motherboards.org, etc. Then again, they get a new rig every six months to a year. Newegg may be okay for that. But if you want reliable stuff with a minimum of hassles, stay away from them. Again, there's a reason why Newegg is the cheapest!

And I think giving them three shots is enough. Maybe you've just been lucky, maybe I wasn't. I'm a very forgiving person, but screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me...well twice, because I gave them a three chances.

And they charge tax in my state too, which sometimes offsets whatever savings I'd get anyway.


MJA-

I'll give chiefvalue.com a try. Thanks for the info. Buy.com is kind of like Nextag, and I'm a bit leery of their customer review process for companies, but I do refer to them occasionally. But chiefvalue looks very promising and their shipping is reasonable.

[ROF]

I deal companies that sell reliable stuff. That's why I don't deal with Newegg. I see a lot of the "gamerz" on overclockers, motherboards.org, etc. like Newegg. Then again, they get a new rig every six months to a year. Newegg may be okay for that. But if you want reliable stuff with a minimum of hassles, stay away from Newegg. Again, there's a reason why Newegg is the cheapest!

That is the funniest thing I have heard all week. Thanks for the laugh. Newegg is not only reliable you can actually get a person on the phone without being shifted around and put on hold to 5 different people and then hung up on like MWave.Com is famous for.

[MJA]

funny thing about chiefvalue.com they have almost the same inventory like newegg.com even the invoice looks the same.thats why I think they have something to do with newegg.com

[dwill123]

Not to say that this is the definitive benchmark of quality but Resellerratings.com rates MWave.com as 7.19 for a six month customer satifaction rating vs a 9.48 for Newegg six month rating. Also MWave's lifetime rating is 8.13 vs newegg's 9.63. Finally Resellerratings lists MWave's lifetime reviews at 1370 vs 10450 lifetime reviews for Newegg. That's almost 10 to 1. Kind of says that there are a lot of happy customers using Newegg. I've used Newegg for quite a while and the only thing I have a problem with is paying for the return of a defective or broken item but since this is extremely rare I just live with it. I just ordered a bunch of stuff from them yesterday. Newegg rocks.

[RLT69]

I deal companies that sell reliable stuff. That's why I don't deal with Newegg. I see a lot of the "gamerz" pimping Newegg on Overclockers, Motherboards.org, etc. Then again, they get a new rig every six months to a year. Newegg may be okay for that. But if you want reliable stuff with a minimum of hassles, stay away from them. Again, there's a reason why Newegg is the cheapest!

How the hell do you know you are dealing with companies that sell reliable stuff? Anyone can send you a defective product, it happens. How good a company is depends alot on how the respond to defective products. NewEgg has without question, excellent customer service. Their RMA process is excellent.

You bought 3, count them 3 products from NewEgg and now you say they are a shit company!
Nice sample size genius. I have built over 15 computer systems, yes 15 complete systems, with component purchased from NewEgg. I had one defective computer case which they replaced no problem.

NewEgg is a good company to deal with and sells good products. Do not listen to this fool.

[ROF]

I just ordered a bunch of stuff from them yesterday. Newegg rocks.

I just ordered this morning some RAM(PC3200 and PC4800), a pack of UV Fan Shields, a Case drawer, some UV lighting, and a DVD Burner. Checking my order status reveals it has left their warehouse. Not bad in my opinion. NewEgg Rocks!

[Denvers Dawgs]

perhaps I'll post back here with some specs and you guys can tell me quality components for my needs. I only know what I'd like, but nothing about who is good/bad for products themselves...Off the bat, for multi-tasking and photoshop work would you go Dual Core or Pentium 4w/HT? (this PC will not being used for gaming at all)

[Dr_Layne]

I too support Newegg. Never had any issues. I always order my computer parts from them. I got a hell of a deal on a Sony 21" CRT monitor from them a few years ago. Instant rebate of $150 at the time of purchase. Compared that to every other online vendor selling the same product, Newegg had the best price and the only one with the instant rebate too. The monitor still performs flawlessly. It was not second rate merchancise.

[CrayonEater]

Well, I guess you're just lucky, RLT69, but if you get screwed three times in a row by the same company - and you know there are much better ones out there at similar prices - that's a good reason not to deal with the same crappy vendor. Hey, genius, what should one do ... let Newegg screw you four, maybe five times before you figure it out? Real smart.

Incidentally, I'm going by the BBB ratings, not the reselleratings.com rankings. They speak for themselves.

I've built about 7 rigs and bought a couple dozen machines in the last few years. All of the ones that worked DID NOT COME FROM NEWEGG! Hmmm, gee, seem to see a pattern here... Sure, I paid a little more (probably about $25-50 or so, mostly in shipping), but it's worth it not to worry (or at least as much).

I do admit that Newegg's RMA process is excellent. But I'd rather deal with a supplier that I have less chance of having to RMA in the first place. Ever wonder why Newegg's RMA process is so well-renowned?

As always, YMMV.

[ROF]

I do admit that Newegg's RMA process is excellent. But I'd rather deal with a supplier that I have less chance of having to RMA in the first place. Ever wonder why Newegg's RMA process is so well-renowned?

Because they take care of their customers? You bought three items from them and they were bad. Boo Woo! I've gotten 4 bad monitors from Tigerdirect.com and I still rate them quite good. Stuff happens!

[CBC]

Let's face facts, CrayonEater, you are in the minority by a very LARGE margin.By all means, don't buy anything from Newegg if you don't wish to.
Let's move on...

[CrayonEater]

Yes, YMMV. I will rate somebody bad who sells me defective stuff three times in a row. It's pretty stupid beating your head against a wall hoping the next time they'll get it right.

[CrayonEater]

[qoute]Let's face facts, CrayonEater, you are in the minority by a very LARGE margin.By all means, don't buy anything from Newegg if you don't wish to.[/quote]

Agreed. As a corporate customer, who deals with many others, I won't do business with them, and they don't seem to appeal to my "kind". Not my loss, not my loss at all.

[RLT69]

Well, I guess you're just lucky, RLT69, but if you get screwed three times in a row by the same company - and you know there are much better ones out there at similar prices - that's a good reason not to deal with the same crappy vendor. Hey, genius, what should one do ... let Newegg screw you four, maybe five times before you figure it out? Real smart.

Here's a clue genius, NewEgg is a distributor, just like TigerDirect and MWave. They warehouse products and ship them to you. If you get a defective product, whose fault is it? The Distributor or the Manufacturer? It's the Manufacturer!

You can complain all you want but 3 purchases does not make a reliable indicator.

Ever order anything from Amazon.com....ever have a bad purchase? I wonder how many people ordered something from them that was defective. Yet I bet people STILL go back and order products from Amazon.com because once again, Amazon.com is not the manufacturer, they are the distributor. People understand that a defective product is the fault of the MANUFACTURER and not the DISTRIBUTOR.

The key point is how well NewEgg or Amazon or anyone else deals with defective products. NewEgg does a very good job.

:P

[CBC]

"People understand that a defective product is the fault of the MANUFACTURER and not the DISTRIBUTOR."

well...*some* people do, anyways

[Jester700]

+1 for Newegg; they rock. RMAs and rebates are easier than anywhere else, and I dunno WHAT crayoneater is getting at with quality. I've never seen any sign that they sell seconds (there ARE OEM items available, but all are well labeled as such).

-1 for Tiger Direct. They tacked on a stupid extended warranty (on a freakin' drive CASE, IIRC) and wouldn't take it off. They wanted me to call another company (the warranty company). It was only $7, so after the first hoop I gave up, but I'll never buy from them again out of principle.

MWave - I dunno. I THINK I bought from them before. Must have gone OK; I have no traumatic memories of them..

[dwill123]

I just ordered a bunch of stuff from them yesterday. Newegg rocks.

Just a followup - as mentioned before I ordered some stuff from Newegg yesterday (Monday, May 22 at approx. 11:00 AM EST). Well I got home today (Tuesday, May 23 at approx. 5:00 PM EST). There were two UPS boxes waiting for me. You guessed it my things from NewEgg (on a three day shipping). I said it once and I'll say it again, NewEgg rocks.

[budz]

perhaps I'll post back here with some specs and you guys can tell me quality components for my needs. I only know what I'd like, but nothing about who is good/bad for products themselves...Off the bat, for multi-tasking and photoshop work would you go Dual Core or Pentium 4w/HT? (this PC will not being used for gaming at all)

I haven't looked at Intel P4 processors for a long time. My P4 NORTHWOOD 3.00c is the last Intel processor that I purchased. Perhaps other members can post their experiences with P4 Intel processors. I like AMD stuff now since the cost is reasonable.

From what I've read there are not many 64-bit software yet but in due time they will become available. I can multitask on my P4 3.00c pc by capturing video, surfing the net and burning a dvd all at the same time without any difficulty.

Get a cpu with a motherboard that has room to upgrade to a faster cpu in the future.

[Super Warrior]

You might have seen my post.
\
Building a PC is easy. Just be careful and make sure you don't have any static electricity built-up on you. One other bit of advice - don't let people convince you to buy a $2,000 machine - you may be able to do just as well for $350.

Budz is right except stay as far away from Newegg as possible. I've had nothing but problems and I suspect lots of their stuff is factory-seconds. Mwave.com or Tigerdirect have good prices for new stuff and you can even buy refurbed stuff dirt cheap on Tigerdirect. If you want to try building a machine and have any questions PM me or also check out Motherboards.org.

Newegg.com is a great site, bought my last Ram stick from them.

Best thing about newegg is most things can be easily returned for a refund with no hassels if your not happy with it.