A 4.1 GHz Dual Core at $130

[parallax1]

Incidentally, I'm going by the BBB ratings, not the reselleratings.com rankings.

Hmmmm....let's see....

NewEgg: AAA rating (An exemplary rating.) from the BBB


or....


MWave: CC (Average rating.) rating from the BBB

They speak for themselves.

They sure do....

[SingSing]

Can any LGA775 MOBO takes this CPU ? If not, how do we figured it out ?

With that much heat generated by overclocking, it needs liquid cooling, or else the noise from the large CPU fan will drive you up the wall !

[ROF]

No. The board needs to support the Pentium D family.

[CBC]

From what the article at Tom's said , it depends on how much OCing you do. They were able to run it at 3.80 w/o resorting to water cooling. For that price anything over 3.0ghz is a gift!

[ROF]

From what the article at Tom's said , it depends on how much OCing you do. They were able to run it at 3.80 w/o resorting to water cooling. For that price anything over 3.0ghz is a gift!

Don't believe it. I OCed this chip slightly and saw a significant increase in ambient load temperature.

[lacywest]

A 4.1 GHz Dual Core at $130 - Can it be True?, just saw this on another site....If I only knew how to build a PC......

Building PCs are easy ... a simple phillips screwdriver is mostly needed ... perhaps a small knife for moving jumper settings.

Takes longer to install the software.

Just lay the Tower on its side and start putting the pieces in there ... video card ... hard drives ... the ram sticks.

You may have to move the Power supply [4 screws hold it in place] out of the way to attach the CPU/Heatsink to the mother board. And make sure you do that first before installing the video card and the other devices.

[CBC]

if you can, buy a case that has a "motherboard tray". You can pull the whole thing out , install the mobo, add the cards,RAM,cpu.heatsnk/fan, install the wires from the PSU, then just slide it in , finish with the ribbon cables for your drives & DVD_R drives & you are good to go.

[CBC]

From what the article at Tom's said , it depends on how much OCing you do. They were able to run it at 3.80 w/o resorting to water cooling. For that price anything over 3.0ghz is a gift!

Don't believe it. I OCed this chip slightly and saw a significant increase in ambient load temperature.

DAMN those lyin' bastidges!!

[hudsonf]

I haven't had any problems buying from Newegg. When I looked at the BBB links Newegg has a AAA rating and Mwave has a CC rating.

[CrayonEater]

Well, if folks are going to keep harping on it, they have almost ten times as many complaints as Mwave despite having been in business less than 1/3 as long. Big red flag there. When you look at a rating, look at the whole thing. If folks want to keep going with this, let's rock.

[parallax1]

Well, if folks are going to keep harping on it, they have almost ten times as many complaints as Mwave despite having been in business less than 1/3 as long. Big red flag there. When you look at a rating, look at the whole thing. If folks want to keep going with this, let's rock.

Okay...how much business did each of the companies do last year? How many transactions did each company perform, and what percentage of transactions resulted in a complaint? Who knows? If I had a company that no one has heard of (like Mwave) and had 20 transactions and 10 complaints, does that mean I'm more reliable than NewEgg? One of the biggest complaints at the BBB was for not giving a FULL refund. Did you stop to think that most of that probably has to do with the restocking fee? Why is that their fault if someone buys the wrong item and wants to send it back without a restocking fee? You lose.

[CrayonEater]

Yes, it did. The person who originally brought up the bbb issue ignored that fact as well, so if we're gonna simply count complaints, then Newegg will lose. Fair's fair.

But as a serious consideration, I do try to get an idea of a company's popularity (in other words, a "per capita" rate of transactions versus complaints) as well as the length of time they've been in business and other things. That's why I don't totally discount bbb's ranking. But the length of time one's been in business is a worthwhile consideration too. Regardless, in their case, my own personal experience is sufficient to keep me away and to actively recommend other vendors. I'm sure if you went to a restaurant and they screwed up your order three times in a row, you'd be a little leery of them, regardless of how others may praise that particular establishment.

[budz]

Yes, it did. The person who originally brought up the bbb issue ignored that fact as well, so if we're gonna simply count complaints, then Newegg will lose. Fair's fair.

But as a serious consideration, I do try to get an idea of a company's popularity (in other words, a "per capita" rate of transactions versus complaints) as well as the length of time they've been in business and other things. That's why I don't totally discount bbb's ranking. But the length of time one's been in business is a worthwhile consideration too. Regardless, in their case, my own personal experience is sufficient to keep me away and to actively recommend other vendors. I'm sure if you went to a restaurant and they screwed up your order three times in a row, you'd be a little leery of them, regardless of how others may praise that particular establishment.

you're no help to Denvers Dawg with your continued ranting how bad Newegg.com is.....for someone who bought only 3 freaking items is a big LAUGH
For Mwave.com to do a switch aroo with motherboards and resend the same one that was RMAed that to me is bad freaking ass business along with bad/poor customer service.....

I can RMA a component to Newegg.com without any hassles......They even allowed me to pick up my components from WILL CALL at UPS when it clearly states on their website no WILL CALL PICK UP at FEDEX or UPS.....I once ordered some floppy drives that were DOA....All it took was one phone call and they quickly sent me replacements.....They told me don't ship back the dead floppy drives because the shipping cost would be too costly for me since I am in Hawaii......Now that is what I call great customer service. :P

Newegg.com rocks and obivously you are in the minority!!!!! :P

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Hey! Denvers Dawg have you chose any components yet?

[ROF]

Well, if folks are going to keep harping on it, they have almost ten times as many complaints as Mwave despite having been in business less than 1/3 as long. Big red flag there. When you look at a rating, look at the whole thing. If folks want to keep going with this, let's rock.

Okay...how much business did each of the companies do last year? How many transactions did each company perform, and what percentage of transactions resulted in a complaint? Who knows? If I had a company that no one has heard of (like Mwave) and had 20 transactions and 10 complaints, does that mean I'm more reliable than NewEgg? One of the biggest complaints at the BBB was for not giving a FULL refund. Did you stop to think that most of that probably has to do with the restocking fee? Why is that their fault if someone buys the wrong item and wants to send it back without a restocking fee? You lose.

I couldn't find any info on MWave.com and their projected or stated revenue status, but in 2004 Newegg.com had 1 billion dollars in revenue and they have had 100% growth in each year of business. Last year I spent a total of just shy of $60,000 at Newegg.com. No complaints, no problems. A few bad parts, but all was taken care of easily and simply.

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2005/Jul/1161533.htm

[ntscuser]

A 4.1 GHz Dual Core at $130 - Can it be True?, just saw this on another site....If I only knew how to build a PC......

Reading the article in full, it's actually $130 plus the cost of a water cooling system. I've no doubt a liquid nitrogen system would run even faster but could be slightly inconvenient in the average bedroom-office

[Webster]

perhaps I'll post back here with some specs and you guys can tell me quality components for my needs. I only know what I'd like, but nothing about who is good/bad for products themselves...Off the bat, for multi-tasking and photoshop work would you go Dual Core or Pentium 4w/HT? (this PC will not being used for gaming at all)

For multi-tasking and photoshop work. I'll go with the dual core system. But do remember this, the dual core SHARE the cache memory. It is not like that of a dual CPU's system where each core has its own independent cache. Since cache is shared, processing speed is sometime slower than that of a single core system at the same clock speed.
If you are really interest in putting your own system together, below is a couple of links to illustrated how a system is put together (including pictures and such..... )

http://www.motherboards.org/articlesd/how-to-guides/924_1.html
http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/howtobuildapc/

Putting together a system is not really hard. I'd put together my first system (a Pentium 150mHz) with no real understanding of how a PC compatible system work (I was coming from a Macintosh background.) So if I could do it, anyone could. So give it a try, you will really enjoy it when you get your first successful POST.

[CBC]

& yes building out a PC that YOU spec'd & having it work just right is actually pretty damn FUN too!

[rallynavvie]

& yes building out a PC that YOU spec'd & having it work just right is actually pretty damn FUN too!

Seconded. The first time I put a PC together I had a little help from a friend who had built a few systems, but then I only needed his help applying thermal paste for my aftermarket HSFs. I have enjoyed building every workstation of mine since. There is also no small sense of pride in using a computer you put together yourself 8)

[lordsmurf]

I think salvage is more fun. Take something that's been abused and used, add a couple new parts, and make it purr like a kitten. Turn an "old" system into something that can be used again by somebody in need. You've got more going against you here, rebuilding, than building a new one.

But building/rebuilding is a high of it's own, yes. True to pretty much anything where you can build something from just parts.

And NEWEGG.COM is a great place to buy parts. That and Fry's and Microcenter.

[CrayonEater]

Three out of three f-ups is a horrible rate. You gotta be an idiot to go for four.

And, we've all added bits and pieces to Denver Dawg's question. Problem is, it's probably time for another thread. Crap, I offered to walk him through a system build.

I will also third the comments that it's fun and satisfying to build your own machine. I still sometimes have to buy pre-built for customers, but I'd rather go the DIY route.

[CrayonEater]

I'd look at a motherboard with SATA-II outputs for your purposes, since hard disk performance is often the bottleneck in both multitasking and editing work. RAID is nice if you decide you need an extra measure of safety. Something like the Abit IL8/AW8/AL8 is a good start, with the models varying mainly by RAID support.

The 805 or 820 look like they're at the sweet spot in terms of value for the dollar, and you have lots of mobos to choose from at reasonable prices. Either one would be perfectly fine for what you want to do. And if you're not going to game, you probably won't need to spend much on a video card either

[Soopafresh]

Yeah, it's fun until you have to connect the front panel power leds and on/off and reset buttons. Why they haven't standardized THAT, I'll never understand.

[lacywest]

Yeah, it's fun until you have to connect the front panel power leds and on/off and reset buttons. Why they haven't standardized THAT, I'll never understand.

Yes ... that is the part I hate doing ... small devices being stuck into small areas ... yuck

[Cobra]

USB/Firewire connections are in blocks now, aren't they? I remember having to hook those up individually... I agree that front panel stuff should be standard.

[ROF]

The problem with standardizing the front panel leads is that both motherboard and case manufacturers do not have the same standards in configuration. Some cases do not HDD LEDs, some don't even have reset buttons. At least as has been said that USB is now blocked instead of having to figure out which lead goes to which pin. What I wish for is that case manufacturers would include more than a single sheet of paper which has been badly copied and with such limited and small print that half the time you need to crap shoot in order to get everything connected right.

[budz]

USB/Firewire connections are in blocks now, aren't they? I remember having to hook those up individually... I agree that front panel stuff should be standard.

Acks! I do remember having to hook up those USB wires individually when I built my first computer. What a bitch it was with those small wires!!!! I that front panel stuff is just as bad.

[ROF]

They have gotten better though. Speaker cables for the most part are blocked together. Some even block the power and HDD lines. It would be nice to just have one huge one to slip into place but then that might be seen as too easy.

[SingSing]

Most of the Manufactured PC has USB and card slot at front panel. I wonder when the case manuafcturer going tto wake up and provide that. the alternative is use a drive bay panel, for power users that is an item that we can't spare.